Irsh Oaks O'Brien 4 runners 7 run, THE PRIZE MONEY.

A pointless race and a waste of time. I think IHRB should have this race run in the backyard of Ballydoyle to save on travelling expenses and time.

It's high time this race is downgraded in my opinion.

Why?

It's a bad look, nothing from Britain or France - the youth of Ireland will turn away from the sport

Are Juddmonte happy to be associated with this tainted classic?  It's dropping down to the level of Irish St Leger

where are the uk fillies, , oh waiting for king george next week perhaps   

The 2.35 at Curragh is an even more egregious example of what is wrong with Irish racing.  An abysmal example of a Group 2 contest.

What is wrong with IRISH racing?

Seems a distinct lack of foreign challengers , need to be a bit more ambitious for those pots on offer really but i guess if you're deemed not good enough may as well stay in your box.

I agree but what a sorry state of affairs.  U.K. racing in the doldrums.

I agree but what a sorry state of affairs.  U.K. racing in the doldrums.

That was as boring as today’s racing!

Group 1 race in name

The shortie had a pacemaker and a good position yet did not win like a 2/11 shot. I'm not denigrating the winner just the "professional" journos at the Racing Post eulogising her ability post winning at Epsom.

Moore just nudged her home.  You were probably more stressed watching it than the horse was winning it.

To think that a horse that has won 1 from 7 beaten 5+ L over 1m 6f last time now has G1 black type -  the second didn’t hit the first 3 at Epsom either!
Good job Whirl wasn’t there?!?

AOB and Coolmore win many big races year in, year out. However, I find it a difficult task remembering the names of the winners even those that won the Derby and Oaks. I can still remember Golden Horn and Enable, but none from AOB and Coolmore though.

No need to panic impossible it's just an age thing of remembering nostalgia but difficulty remembering what you had for breakfast , happens to us all   

So do I.  I do however remember how brilliant they are at a). Getting the horses, b). Rearing them and c). Training them to perfection to win the big events, time after time after time.  And every owner and trainer has the same chances as they do.
They’re just nothing like as good at it.

I'd agree if it was on most daily stuff eg birthdays; shopping; month or day; etc. But, I'm having more time for horseracing yet the names of their Classic winners escaped me post the events. Maybe I might remember Lambourn as it's the name of a horseracing town.

I can still remember Kyprios and Order Of St George but I cannot remember their Classic winners eg Turpentine and Wing and A Prayer.

Honch   

imp, im the same, remember the gns winners d brave, nashwan, dont forget me, miesqqe, oh so sharp etc etc, but i couldnt recall many coolmore winners,  im the same with soccer, i could probably name most of the chelsea 1970 cup final team, brazil 70 world cup team, sunderland 73, but i dont know who won this seasons cup final

imp, im the same, remember the gns winners d brave, nashwan, dont forget me, miesqqe, oh so sharp etc etc, but i couldnt recall many coolmore winners,  im the same with soccer, i could probably name most of the chelsea 1970 cup final team, brazil 70 world cup team, sunderland 73, but i dont know who won this seasons cup final

Don’t worry Impossible they have so many winners and not ALL of them are exceptional, it’s easy to forget the names.

They are also the BEST at putting people away Honcho.

Anyone who makes fun and takes pleasure out of someone who is perhaps loosing their memory is a COMPLETE SCROTE HAYDEN.

Now go rim another ahole you forgetful wimp, because you too forgot that we all get old!

He would do well to excede you,Dela Dimwit

Myself and impossible never have or will exchange abuse , take it from me the response was to do with horse racing and has sailed right over your head Delashay   

Probably painting a masterpiece at the time,Hayden

Mastersomething that's for sure   

An alternative race view of today’s G1 in Ireland




Minnie Hauk (3 years old) will have had to work until the end, but she imposed herself as a class filly doing the minimum... Frankel’s daughter brought a new classic success to her entourage, winning by a good length the Irish Oaks (Gr. I) in front of Wemightakedlongway, a few weeks after her triumph in the English equivalent (Epsom Oaks), silver-crushed at the score of 2 for 11, under the grip of Ryan Moore. Certainly, the overall quality of the prize was not that of a group I (rather than a group III), but the style of the winner’s victory pleased the bookmakers who did not change her odds in view of the Yorkshire Oaks (at 2/1) and the Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe (at 10/1). Minnie Hauk imitates Alexandrova (2006) and Snowfall (2021), also coached by Aidan O'Brien and who had achieved the Epsom Oaks/Irish Oaks double in their time. Finally, the name 'O'Brien' is in the first five places, with Joseph, son of Aidan, who sold the second...

429th group for Aidan O'Brien


This number gives a dizziness and it is even difficult to realize the extent of the exploits of Aidan O'Brien, the most successful director in the history of racing... He has indeed removed the 429th group I of his career (since 1993) in only about thirty years. Ballydoyle’s virtuoso is well on his way to an exceptional year 2025, already counting 11 victories at the highest level, with Henri Matisse (Poule d'Essai des Poulains), Los Angeles (Tattersalls Gold Cup), Lake Victoria (Irish 1000 Guineas), Camille Pissarro (Prix du Jockey-Club), Jan Brueghel (Coronation Cup), the aforementioned Minnie Hauk (2), Lambourn (Epsom and Irish Derby), Whirl (Pretty Polly Stakes), and Delacroix (Eclipse Stakes).

But there’s Group 1’s and then there’s Group 1’s in only but name. Still remarkable.

Any sign of an apology to Hayden,Dela?

If its so weak every trainer in Europe is welcome to come over and pick it up off the turf. They have a stranglehold on game. Simple as that really.

Dela?

It’s why they never won a Group 1 @ Ascot this year?  Maybe I’m mistaken?

Anyone? Besides him!

Delashay • July 19, 2025 6:32 PM BST
It’s why they never won a Group 1 @ Ascot this year?  Maybe I’m mistaken?

Deflector shields at full power from Dela Dimwit

Anyone?

Or you all like little dogs that yap the day and night away, avoiding putting their neck on the line about any race! Before or after!

Jul 19, 2025 -- 6:32PM, Delashay wrote:

It’s why they never won a Group 1 @ Ascot this year?

Would you care to answer my question Dela?

Does my memory serve me correctly?!

NO Group 1’s at Ascot this year, but plenty of BURNT fingers!

Nuff said  case closed yet again!

You are a gutless,pretentious individual Dela.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPhctnBKxfg

imho group1 these days are easier to win than listed/group 3  in the past .in the 80s the vintage at goodwood was listed it was contested by troy and ela mana mou , vintage is now group2 , those 2 horses would hammer anything from today , look on the comm cup, jubilee and king charles at ascot group1 ,

You know John ;)

A monopoly is never good for anything esp in sport. Coolmore can do this because their firepower is almost entirely home-bred/produced, and void of fees like those paid by AMO Racing except (business) expenses which are tax deductible. Others do not have this advantage and privilege; Juddmonte, Aga Khan, Hamdan and Godolphin are catching up, and have produced memorable Classic winners more regularly these days.

Like I said many times before almost all of their present/recent Classic winners are forgotten very soon after the events. And, betting on them is challenging and unrewarding mostly.

What a load of bitter claptrap.
Everyone, everywhere has and has had the same opportunities to excel.  Everyone.  You just can’t take it.
Your anti-Irish bias is clear for all to see and is laughable.  To suggest, as you did elsewhere, that Greville Starkey was in the top two trainers ever is the ridiculous truth of that.  Grow up and stop whingeing.
  . .

impossible123 • July 22, 2025 9:11 AM BST
A monopoly is never good for anything esp in sport

Correct. It’s making the jumps boring.

LoyalHoncho • July 22, 2025 12:28 PM BST
What a load of bitter claptrap.
Everyone, everywhere has and has had the same opportunities to excel.  Everyone

I believe Joey Sticks O’Brien has had more opportunities than most and believe that other young jockeys would concur the same.

* and young trainers.

You have done a “politician” and changed the subject. 
Coolmore have perfected a model of success.  The English/U.K. are/is miles behind.
Stop crying and change it.

I’d say the Sklets are very fortunate too.

Is that me who’s dine a politician! Certainly not whinging. I was answering to the , “Everyone.” Remark.

*Skelts
*done

O'Brien has won big races not only in the UK and Ireland but America and Australia, even his son has won big races abroad, these guys are just so good at their craft. cheers.

It's a numbers game. The more darts you throw at the board the more likely you'll hit a target. Horseracing is no different.

Which of these two horses will contest the Yorkshire Oaks? Whirl or Minnie Hauk? The latter was far from impressive beating non-Gp 1 materials.

It’s a seriously gifted-planning, execution, rearing, training, targeting and WINNING game.
Dominated by Irish genii, played at by the rest.

No one’s doubted or played down their talents. How many young jockeys have a go at winning the Tripple Crown?

Would Joey of attracted the horses he has straight away is he wasn’t from that dynasty?

As a trainer he’s won races that his father hasn’t.

Joey is not the subject matter.  No more from me.

LoyalHoncho • July 22, 2025 12:28 PM BST
What a load of bitter claptrap.
Everyone, everywhere has and has had the same opportunities to excel.  Everyone.  You just can’t take it.

I’m glad that I was on Enke! 50/1!

The subject being discussed was the breeding, rearing, training and event winning of the Coolmore horses, not their jockeys.
Text is a poor medium.

It’s ok I wonder if you feel the same that society is like they? That everyone has had the same opportunities?

By the way not every trainer is backed by the MONEY that the Lads bring to their stable.

From what I’ve seen Impossible is a backer of their horses so I doubt that he’s whining or disgruntled, he merely wants healthy competition like the rest of racing fans.

I agree text is a very poor medium for some!   self expression and confidence doesn’t come as easy to everyone!

Bugger all to do with that.

Of course course not! Who’s politician now!? Avoiding everything!

Would Watham exist without the money?

There’s two ways the slow way and the money way.

Blackburn used the later to buy the title one year.

Oops mistype I know that angers a few! *latter

I back their charges because I cannot not back them, if on merit. But, I'd not back them daily or weekly; repeatedly 2nd guessing is the quickest way to the poor house; I'd not had a bet for over a week unless it was free.

But, it does not fill me with great joy like in the old days of backing a winner of theirs; the buzz is never the same with AOB's. Also, I'd have forgotten them soon post the event. However, to be frustrated  by a last minute substitution (not an injury) will annoy me enormously as it's a form of cheating and treating their supporters of utter disdain.

It's a boring game punting if nearly every egg is in one basket eg Man City playing a non-league team repeatedly.

How are Man City getting on,implausible?
Things change and always will

You bet for “buzz”?  Bejaysus, I didn’t know you were that bad.  Explains a lot of your posts.

And you showed that you talk before you think OLeLoyal

Like your sidekick

Run like a ****

Delashay • July 22, 2025 3:56 PM BST
LoyalHoncho • July 22, 2025 12:28 PM BST
What a load of bitter claptrap.
Everyone, everywhere has and has had the same opportunities to excel.  Everyone.  You just can’t take it.

Funny hey

Seems like the snake that you hit out with came back and slapped you up