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the dealer
12 Jun 25 16:12
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Turned down £2.2 million for her.

A small syndicates dream being offered that amount and I get the attachment they have for the filly but imho 100% the wrong thing to do financially,  regardless of what happens in the future
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Report 1st time poster June 12, 2025 4:20 PM BST
48 grand each and despite the vibe they try to give off all wealthy tory boys, so suppose the argument is whats the guarentee of replacing her with a group 1 contender for £2 mill, worried about my £2 with THE SHOE in the saddle ,brave men betting £2 mill he wont fook up again
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 12, 2025 4:38 PM BST
100% the right to do. There would be a lot of interest in her with regards to breeding once she's retired, especially if she can win another G1 and keep the race! But even if she doesn't but still runs to the level she's at now, she's making a 1M+ in a breeders Auction. So 20-30k for the enjoyment of watching a horse you own running in all the big Fillies race for at least the rest of this season. A very easy decision IMO
Report the dealer June 12, 2025 4:43 PM BST
Fair play if that's your view WP, only one of the syndicate voted yes, looks a more than fair offer to me and I definitely would be in the sell corner.
Report wondersobright June 12, 2025 4:46 PM BST
saw him interviewed saying been valued around 750 bags as low end estimate
french guineas "2nd" french oaks fav
she's worth 7 fig amount for sure imo
Report Whippin Piccadilly June 12, 2025 4:50 PM BST
48k is a decent chunk of change but if you consider the future prize money she could earn and what she's worth with regards to breeding. I think it was a sensible decision to turn the offer down. Also what price would you put on the enjoyment of owning such a classy Horse and getting to watch her in all those big Fillies races for the rest of the season
Report formoftheace June 12, 2025 4:52 PM BST
Could possibly buy a few good ones tbh…

May regret after Sunday…
Report Hayden June 12, 2025 5:24 PM BST
This scenario is just like Deal Or No Deal in truth , the main factor to know is how much each individual needs £48k , until then it's impossible to form an opinion regarding what's best.
Report penzance June 12, 2025 5:28 PM BST
Already got black type.Sale price halves their share goes down to around £24K,still a nice
amount after watching her for the rest of her racing career.Sale price might even go up if
she nicks a GP1.
Report uptheirons June 12, 2025 5:34 PM BST
Would have been £66000 per shareholder.
Let's hope that they don't eventually regret it but the correct procedure was followed.
If it was solely mine i would have bit their arms off at that price
Report Delashay June 12, 2025 5:40 PM BST
Delashay • June 12, 2025 10:28 AM BST
Asked about the opposition, our interlocutor replied: “Shes Perfect is a good filly, but I don’t know if she will hold 2,000 meters. It is she who has the highest rating. She beat Mandanaba, which means that if we only consider the line, ours has a length to find. Gezora won well last time, she is a manageable filly, a sure bet.

Aga’s racing manger on She’s Perfect.
Report Delashay June 12, 2025 5:41 PM BST
And there’s more to it when you look into it! ;)
Report penzance June 12, 2025 5:46 PM BST
Offered $2.5M,not sterling.
Report uptheirons June 12, 2025 5:49 PM BST
Thanks penzance.
Would still have sold
Report mitolo June 12, 2025 5:50 PM BST
bishop watts and his band of oiks dont deserve a nana
Report know all June 12, 2025 5:59 PM BST
It’s a catch 22 we all know horses can dissapoint and I hope it wins for them but it’s a very fine line they are treading and yes as it’s only a small pot each, then I’d take the gamble and hope it goes your way
Report uptheirons June 12, 2025 6:10 PM BST
The late Lord Carnarvon stated that is better to sell and regret than the other way round.
I agree
Report penzance June 12, 2025 6:22 PM BST
If and when they do decide to sell,I hope they make a right few quid each.
GL to 'em.
Report impossible123 June 12, 2025 6:23 PM BST
I cannot remember the filly that was trained by Beckett, and bought by Amo Racing for over £4m in a sale recently. She did not win the last time, but her main purpose now is the number of foals she'd produce.

Does the syndicate own the entirety of She's Perfect? If so, could the syndicate not sell a large portion of She's Perfect and retain the remainder as future investment in the foals she'd produce? I'd sell for £2m+ if this was the only option.
Report the dealer June 12, 2025 6:27 PM BST
I hope it works out for them, they are obviously emotionally connected to the filly but that offer imo was more than fair.
Things can change quickly, good luck to them
Report formoftheace June 12, 2025 6:29 PM BST
Hope it wins easily on Sunday…..should stir the nest.
Report penzance June 12, 2025 6:30 PM BST
Think the mare Marsha? went for bundles when sold.
She was a GP1 Wnr though.
Report N-east Correspondent June 12, 2025 6:38 PM BST
this could well be best horse they will ever own, if they dont need the money
then live the dream the thrill and excitement of owning a G1 horse is something money cant buy
they were desperately unlucky lto and she could be worth significantly more
if race plans come to fruition...
Report Hayden June 12, 2025 6:40 PM BST
In a syndicate like that you're bound to get risk takers vs risk averse , as stated it's a Deal or no Deal scenario but as with the tv program without knowing the individuals financial position and needs nobody can make the decision for them and it's also impossible for anyone judging them without those ingredients.

I'd imagine somewhere along the line it'll be too nervy for some and they'll sell their share to someone else in the syndicate who's less risk averse and with a healthier bank balance.


Good luck to them all   Happy
Report the dealer June 12, 2025 6:43 PM BST
I don't think it's so much if they don't need the money, so keep the fily, more it's an offer too good to refuse.
For what it has done £2 million plus is a lot of money.
Report tictacman1 June 12, 2025 6:49 PM BST
We turned down £2,200,000 for Shes Perfect........


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iia6nScCR6k
Report impossible123 June 12, 2025 6:53 PM BST
I hope she wins on sunday. I think the horse, the jockey and the syndicate deserve it post the heartache of the French 1000G.
Report uptheirons June 12, 2025 7:30 PM BST
The late John Hislop turned down blank cheques  for Brigadier Gerrard
Report roadrunner46 June 13, 2025 8:26 PM BST
My view is they are flash mugs giving it the biggun not taking the 2.5 million
Report Cider June 13, 2025 8:55 PM BST
flash mugs giving it the biggun

sounds like the definition of racehorse owners
Report differentdrum June 13, 2025 9:45 PM BST
Guy clearly enjoys his five minutes of fame, and seeks to milk it to the max.

Media likes to portray these syndicates as people who haven't two pennies to rub together. I doubt that is the case, but either way it looks a bonkers decision.
Report 1st time poster June 14, 2025 7:52 AM BST
punters/everyones pal basher,turns down £2 mill for filly on mon,on fri he,s advertising for RACING POST telling everyone to subscibe so they like him can use their form video for all his punting,of course skybet accs can get same information for free on sportinlife and there,s lots of other places to get same video,s for free,but hey even those turning £2 mill down have to eat LaughLaughLaugh
Report N-east Correspondent June 14, 2025 10:04 AM BST
he didnt turn down £2 million, he was one of 37 who decided to carry on with the syndicate
but dont let your bitterness get in the way of facts, gl to them tomorrow hope they make plenty out of the filly
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 14, 2025 10:15 AM BST
Hayden hit the nail on the head when he said you would only think of selling if you needed the money, why would you join a syndicate hoping for a dream horse only to sell for what would amount to the price of a decent car. Good luck to them.
Report penzance June 14, 2025 10:15 AM BST
The vast majority voted to keep her.Don't win another race still worth a nice
amount for what she's already achieved.
Report formoftheace June 14, 2025 10:16 AM BST
Wins on Sunday they will enjoy counting the stud value….
Report the dealer June 14, 2025 11:06 AM BST
It's their horse and they have chosen not to sell. For what the horse has achieved though, £2 million plus is a massive offer, especially for a filly.
Had it been a syndicate of 10 or less or he owned it himself, for me it's an offer you couldn't refuse. I definitely would have sold it regardless even if I didn't need the money.
Report Andrew-In-Sweden June 14, 2025 11:41 AM BST
Tom,

I agree. Of course the financial circumstances of the 38 (?) shareholders has to be taken into consideration, and Basher being Basher, may have 'guided' them to refuse the offer, but at the end of the day she's only won a minor fillies maiden worth 5K. I accept she's been placed in a couple of French group races since, but had the run of the race each time. Charlie seems to be confident she will stay, i'm not, but he's trained more winners than me. The breeding certainly doesn't scream out 10.4f.

Stall 7 is not necessarily a significant negative assuming she breaks well tomorrow, but not sure she will get a soft lead and it's a decent field. I think she should have gone for the Coronation and i'm laying her tomorrow.

You may remember Via Sistina was sold for 2.7M guineas to Australia, she had won group races including a G1, i know which one i would want.
Report penzance June 14, 2025 11:51 AM BST
This filly's only ran in 4 races so far.Get's beat they can always drop her back
down in trip.Via Sistina had a few more races to get those results.
Report the dealer June 14, 2025 12:04 PM BST
I really hope it works out for them but I just think things can change so quickly, especially with a filly, buying it for that money based on potential is also a massive gamble, time will tell
Report CaptainCristy June 14, 2025 12:15 PM BST
Anyone paying that money would have to be thinking that it should be worth £3million.
Report uptheirons June 14, 2025 1:22 PM BST
The horse has hung left on its last two runs.
Not for me
Report 1st time poster June 15, 2025 3:15 PM BST
this horse has won 5 grand in winning prize money and had as much publicity as frankel
Report CaptainCristy June 15, 2025 3:18 PM BST
Maybe a decent novice hurdler?
Report duffy June 15, 2025 3:19 PM BST
Expect this story to begin to turn sour from this point.
Report uptheirons June 15, 2025 3:22 PM BST
A break and back over a mile beckons
Report mitolo June 15, 2025 3:27 PM BST
excellent. nowhere
Report Fashion Fever June 15, 2025 3:29 PM BST
if you owned outright you take the 2.2 mill

48k isn't even a decent car these days hope she nick a decent race for them before end of the season
Report differentdrum June 15, 2025 3:30 PM BST
Never mind, Basher will still be able to put up another video of the day out. Clearly priceless stuff.
Report uptheirons June 15, 2025 3:32 PM BST
The syndicate took a democratic decision and rolled the dice.
They lost
Report formoftheace June 15, 2025 3:38 PM BST
Fashion Fever 15 Jun 25 15:29 
if you owned outright you take the 2.2 mill

48k isn't even a decent car these days hope she nick a decent race for them before end of the season

What do you classify a decent car ?
Report duffy June 15, 2025 3:42 PM BST
How much have they each laid out? You'd assume they would have made a tidy profit, I think I'd have taken the view that my horse was a rag that ran a race in the guineas that has consequently greatly inflated her price and sold.
Report Delashay June 15, 2025 3:46 PM BST
A bird in the hand and all that, at lest they enjoyed it, besides the result and hope that the filly is sound. Was sweating up badly beforehand unlike the other two runs previous.
Report Delashay June 15, 2025 3:47 PM BST
And they can say we had the fav for the Prix Diane for a while!
Report Smoky Hill June 15, 2025 3:48 PM BST
She's a miler and no more.  I mentioned to Watts on one of his platforms about 2 months ago, that I felt she was a Hungerford Stakes filly, gr. 2 7f, August, but he ignored my comment.  I stand by that from what we've seen today.
Report 1st time poster June 15, 2025 3:50 PM BST
no evidence ,name of anyone offering even a bag of beans for the horse,just basher using lucky podcast and luck todays as another arm for his self 24/7 publicist ****
Report GLASGOWCALLING June 15, 2025 3:50 PM BST
yes, too early to write off yet, lets see what happens in a race or 2 presumably over shorter.
Report duffy June 15, 2025 3:51 PM BST
With the narrative you'd think that the Coronation Stakes and a rematch with the French filly would have been the obvious move.
Report Delashay June 15, 2025 4:47 PM BST
Yes and not travelling for a third time, she wants cut and got away with it being fast in the guineas, where I felt she was at the end of her tether stamina wise.
She’s a strong and heavy looking filly and must hit the ground hard.
Report uptheirons June 15, 2025 4:53 PM BST
The Trainer has clearly much to learn from Dela
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