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windsor knot
28 May 25 00:59
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jumps ; wayward lad, kauto star, denman, istabraq, kribensis
flat; dancing brave, frankel, sea the stars, lochsong, golden horn...

the last named the most underated flat horse ever and the best arc ride i've ever seen and ive seen plenty !
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Report Hayden May 28, 2025 2:05 AM BST
Assuming you mean live on the track windsor by stating ever seen on course.


Jumps: Border Incident / Pendil / Lord Relic / Uncle Bing / Captain Christy.

Flat: Never go flat racing and they're all just BOT and numbers to me.
Report sageform May 28, 2025 7:50 AM BST
Jumps: Arkle Kauto Star Jodami, Big Buck's Collier Bay.
Flat: Mill Reef, Sea The Stars, Frankel, Nijinsky, Enable.
Report paulo47 May 28, 2025 8:21 AM BST
Mixed and in order ....Arkle , Frankel , Star Appeal , Istabraq , Big Bucks .
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 28, 2025 8:26 AM BST
Floyd
Desert Orchid
Rusty Roc
Jacquelina
Light On The Waves
Report DIFERENT GRAVY 12 May 28, 2025 9:12 AM BST
Mad Moose
Report Llareggub May 28, 2025 9:36 AM BST
Actually on track:-

Jodami
Desert Orchid
Mrs McArdy
One Man
Dylan Thomas
Report isleham May 28, 2025 9:37 AM BST
Desert Orchid..by a mile
Denman
Bula
Killiney
Javert Allen
Report N-east Correspondent May 28, 2025 10:01 AM BST
Sea Pigeon
Desert Orchid
Dawn Run
Sharpo
Glint of Gold
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 10:42 AM BST
National hunt
Sprinter sacre
Moscow flyer
Kauto star
Sea pigeon
Wayward lad

Valeramix may well have got n the top 5 but for fate.

Flat
Frankel
Kingman
Troy
Sea the stars
Marwell

Unfortunately never saw dancing brave
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 10:44 AM BST
Or el gran senor
Report elise May 28, 2025 10:46 AM BST
my favs not the best

double trigger
kauto star
moscow flyer
limestone lad

but the number one is persian punch
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 10:48 AM BST
N east correspondent

I was between marwell and sharpo for 5 th spot
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 10:51 AM BST
Elise

Probably the most somber day I’ve ever been on a racecourse that grey day at Ascot they might as well of abandoned racing everyone just wasn’t interested in the racing.
Report isleham May 28, 2025 10:55 AM BST
Isn't strange that so many Jump horse touch your heart and live in your memory but barely any Flat horses do something similar
Report CagliariG May 28, 2025 10:59 AM BST
Sonny Somers
See You Then
Goldikova
Sea The Stars
Jafeica

I am staying about a mile from where Sue Bradburne used to train and remember Off The Bru and Blue Charm were local favourites.
Report elise May 28, 2025 11:06 AM BST
yes jim, i wasn't there that day but weirdly i remember exactly where i was when i heard, really sad
Report windsor knot May 28, 2025 11:08 AM BST
isleham i think you are correct on this mostly ..but it is amazing how dancing brave crops up again and again despite 1986 being quite a long time ago and him being retired at three !
Report lockup May 28, 2025 11:27 AM BST
Zilzals: first race at Leicester absolutely hacked up.
Diminuendo: first race Leicester missed the break completely then passed everything like they were stood still.
See You Then : 3rd champion hurdle after speaking to Steve Smith Eccles at Leicester said he was a cert.
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 11:33 AM BST
The jumpers are around for so long we see them as novices then they progress and give us so much pleasure just in recent years honeysuckle and gallopin des champs have received well earned tremendous receptions on more than one occasion very few flat horses get that ,amazingly shergar was applauded down to the start before the 81 derby and frankel received lots of great receptions in his 4 year old season especially at York and then his final race at Ascot which really was incredible.
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 11:35 AM BST
Lockup

Am I right in thinking zilzal went straight to the jersey stakes after winning his Leicester maiden .
Report verbotene liebe May 28, 2025 12:53 PM BST
Assuming this means In the flesh on course:

Night Nurse, Sea Pigeon, Monksfield, Silver Buck, Desert Orchid.

Sea The Stars, Frankel, Shergar, Ajdal, Gunner B
Report kincsem May 28, 2025 1:07 PM BST
jumps: Arkle, Flyingbolt, Crisp, Kauto Star, Istabraq
flat: Sea-Bird, Montjeu, Falbrav, Sea The Stars, Choisir
Report Blake@1658 May 28, 2025 2:05 PM BST
Mtoto, Dahlia, Ela Mana Mou, New Approach, Kingman.

I don't follow National Hunt Racing.
Report brandyontherocks May 28, 2025 2:56 PM BST
Jumps
Sprinter Sacre
Moscow Flyer
Danoli
Istabraq
Son of Flicka

Flat
Frankel
Sea The Stars
Giants Causeway
Kingman
Persian Punch

Greyhound
Brandyontherocks
Report ribero1 May 28, 2025 3:11 PM BST
Nijinsky-Devon Ditty-Sea Pigeon-Sea the Stars-The Minstrel
Sea Pigeon-Silver Buck-Alverton-Clear Cut- Night Nurse.
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 3:22 PM BST
Great call ribero with Devon ditty she was a cracking horse ,I had no interest in racing when Nijinsky was around but know all about him,a realistic achievement I would like to see before I pop it is a horse win the triple crown,I was at dony when oh so sharp won but it’s not quite the same.
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 3:30 PM BST
Amazing not a single Willie Mullins horse and just one from aiden O’Brien so far
Report elise May 28, 2025 3:32 PM BST
if i'd been choosing the best i'd seen rather than my favs i'd have put y eats in
Report jimnast May 28, 2025 3:36 PM BST
If I was doing favs big gossey would be in there along with mellottie
Report Storm Alert May 28, 2025 4:40 PM BST
Kauto Star, Mr Frisk, Private Views, Albertas Run & The Fruit
Report Eddie Batt May 28, 2025 7:28 PM BST
Private Views was some machine before he went radio rental.
Report chavman May 28, 2025 8:09 PM BST
montjeu,dancing brave,nashwan,baeed,dayjur
Report themightymac May 28, 2025 8:15 PM BST
JUMPS
Arkle, Comedy Of Errors, Red Rum, Grand Canyon and Sea Pigeon.

FLAT
Mill Reef, Snow Knight, Le Garcon D`Or, Soba and Sea Pigeon.
Report Whallop May 29, 2025 9:07 AM BST
Dancing Brave, Zilzal, Zafonic, Treve, Mtoto
Report steerforth May 29, 2025 12:59 PM BST
Jumps: Sea Pigeon, Blazing Walker, Cab On Target, I'm A Driver, Night Nurse
Flat: Reference Point, In The Groove, Wollow, The Minstrel, Mtoto.
Report The Dragon May 29, 2025 1:38 PM BST
red rum, best mate, moscow flyer, istrabaq and desert orchid

frankel,sea the stars,enable,persian punch and stradavarius
Report windsor knot May 29, 2025 2:16 PM BST
the more i see these lists i realise 5 from each code is not enough . how could i miss out best mate ? or doran's pride, or triptych , or about 100 others ! interesting what jimnast said about the lack of horses from the present day dominant stables of mullins and o'brien . maybe we don't go to see them so much in the flesh . or maybe we feel that they just appear to be  mostly all the same from a  constant conveyer belt ?
Report impossible123 May 29, 2025 2:45 PM BST
Dancing Brave, Zafonic, Burrough Hill Lad, Dessie and Diminuendo (I won the most on her at 16/1 for The Oaks).
Report Celtic warrior May 29, 2025 2:45 PM BST
Jumps:

cheltenham: Jodami
Sandown:    One Man

Ascot/Epsom: Tagrooda
Ascot:baaed
Epsom: Rakti (the original headbanger)

The one I most miss not seeing is the AYR Legend, Lenny Lungo's The Bajan Bandit
Report Hayden May 29, 2025 2:47 PM BST
My thoughts exactly on the jumpers windsor , i missed out Brown Chamberlain   Happy
Report jimnast May 29, 2025 2:53 PM BST
Impossible

It’s about the best ones you seen live in he flesh not the ones you won the most on
Report impossible123 May 29, 2025 2:58 PM BST
Dancing Brave, Zafonic, Dessie, Burrough Hill Lad and Forgive 'N' Forget.
Report duffy May 29, 2025 3:51 PM BST
Kauto Star, One Man, Rooster Booster, Morley Street, Viking Flagship.

Frankel, Dancing Brave, Pentire, Montjeu, Sea The Stars.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 29, 2025 4:27 PM BST
Tug of war, highflying, dawn Johnny, sergeant Cecil, celeric
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- May 29, 2025 4:31 PM BST
Saw Mrs macardy run at Redcar,

Been to lonchamps a few times including arc, but not same as seeing them at Newcastle!
Report jimnast May 29, 2025 4:37 PM BST
Sergeant Cecil the only horse to do the big staying handicap treble.
Report ease May 29, 2025 4:45 PM BST
Dancing Brave, Lochsong, Remittance Man, Pearlyman, Galileo
Report Andrew-In-Sweden May 29, 2025 4:49 PM BST
Frankel
Zarkava
Peintre Celebre
Golden Horn
Sea The Stars

Sprinter Sacre
Constitution Hill
Altior
Galopin Des Champs
Burrough Hill Lad

If i was asked the same question tomorrow, my choices could change, but without any hesitating, Frankel and Sprinter Sacre would be top
Report mitolo May 29, 2025 4:49 PM BST
the last fling  edredon bleu  gee a  best mate teeton mill challenger du luc

glencroft selkirk dancing brave broken hearted
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 29, 2025 5:45 PM BST
Jimnast: It’s about the best ones you seen live in he flesh not the ones you won the most on

I thought it was about your favourite ones you've seen in the flesh, not the best ones. Different thing altogether.
Report blackbarn May 29, 2025 5:50 PM BST
Arkle, Mill House, Sergeant Cecil on the course.  Green Desert and Nashwan in their paddocks and boxes at the Nunnery.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 29, 2025 5:55 PM BST
I mean, I've seen plenty of faster sprinters than Jacquelina, but none who freewheeled down the hill at Brighton and Chepstow with the sheer joy of that mare last year.

Similarly I don't doubt that I've seen one or two higher-rated chasers than Desert Orchid, but none who did it time after time from the front under 12-0, then logged it out up the Cheltenham hill in a bog.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 29, 2025 5:56 PM BST
*slogged it out up the hill
Report blackbarn May 29, 2025 5:59 PM BST
Jimnast - Posted, then read down and saw you had Sergeant Cecil.  On the day before the Ces, Was in the HR Museum at Newm. with Rod M.  We watched a young Luke Morris practicing on the iron horse. Perversely he was practising with the whip, pulling/changing hands continuously.  The old boy, supervising, from Michael Bell's stable was very enthusiastic about the lad's prospects. He wasn't a bad judge.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 29, 2025 6:08 PM BST
I included Rury Roc in my list. You've got to favour a horse whose owner/trainer/breeder was once quoted as saying: "I love this horse - he bought my house."

I'm never going to feel the same affection for one of those Stupidnames De Francais who win the Gold Cup but cost the price of a house.
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 29, 2025 6:09 PM BST
*Rusty Roc
Report jimnast May 29, 2025 6:28 PM BST
Correct screaming I hadn’t read the thread title properly mine would be be quite different
Report jimnast May 29, 2025 6:36 PM BST
Revised choices as I thought it was best seen as opposed to favourite

Jumps

Hardy eustace
Sea pigeon
Well chief
Fontanasi
Buena vista

Flat

Frankel
Big gossey
Sinndar
Ball gown
Teddy boy
Report Andrew-In-Sweden May 29, 2025 7:41 PM BST
The older guys may remember a sprinter Offa's Mead, a favourite of mine, won a big one at Ascot
Report geoff m May 29, 2025 7:59 PM BST
Flat:Grundy, Sharpo, Ardross,Frankel,Chil The Kite(B.Hobbs version)

Jumps:Red Rum,Night Nurse,Broadsword,Lanzarote
Report screaming from beneaththewaves May 29, 2025 8:58 PM BST
You could fill a list with much-loved Milton Bradley horses, Andrew. The Tatling, Mighty Marine, Yangtse-Kiang, Grey Dolphin ...
Report lockup May 29, 2025 9:37 PM BST
sorry Jimnast missed your post yes he did went off 11/10 I think and I believe broke the track record then won the Sussex Stakes ended up in the breeders cup but boiled over never raced again and failed as a stallion all progeny were a bit loopy.
Report Platini May 30, 2025 4:35 AM BST
I couldn't name 5 since I've only been to 2 racecourses in my life - Musselburgh and Longchamps (talk about extremes Laugh)
so I was in Paris for the Prix du Moulin in 92, and was standing close to the winning post as Henry's smashing filly ALL AT SEA saw off the St James Palace winner Brief Truce. 

My huge disappointment about that day was that I was expecting to see the legendary ARAZI in that race, but he was withdrawn late on Cry
Report jimnast May 30, 2025 6:39 AM BST
Thanks lockup

I remember the jersey stakes that year a Leicester maiden winner a short priced favourite for the jersey stakes the books wanted to lay the punters didn’t care what price they took ,the punters won.

Of memory I think he was rated higher than nashwan that year whilst as good as zilzal was I didn’t agree with that decision.
Report windsor knot May 30, 2025 9:05 AM BST
some great old  memories triggered here . but unless ive missed it surely jim old's mole board due soon !
Report Andrew-In-Sweden May 30, 2025 10:40 AM BST
you could fill a list with much-loved Milton Bradley horses, Andrew. The Tatling, Mighty Marine, Yangtse-Kiang, Grey Dolphin

Screaming FBTW, agreed. If i remember correctly, i think Offa's Mead won at a decent price before the Ascot Bovis race ? I have it in my head 16/1 and 20/1 respectively, but ageing memory etc. I think he also liked to race away from the field.

I couldn't name 5 since I've only been to 2 racecourses in my life - Musselburgh and Longchamps so I was in Paris for the Prix du Moulin in 92

Platini, i've never been to Musselburgh, or Scotland for that matter, but i've seen a lot of Arcs dating back to Detroit in 1980. My favourite festival meeting, love the place and try not to miss it. Not sure if i was there in 1992, but i was working in Sweden then (as opposed to Indonesia in 1994-1998, so quite likely. If you get chance, go to a non-Arc group card meeting, no crowds, generally only 20 euros entry and quality racing.
Report saxon farm May 30, 2025 10:48 AM BST
The Beeches
Ryoanji
Jimsintime
Mr Frisk
Sprinter Sacre
Report jimnast May 30, 2025 4:50 PM BST
Good afternoon Windsor

My memory of mole board was the day he ran in the sun alliance hurdle it was in the days when the of course firms had started advertising most festival races in there morning advert in the sporting life up until the day only the champion hurdle,gold cup and triumph hurdle were had anti post markets ,they also had wide variations of prices unlike today anyway a couple of firms went around 6/1 mole board very few had credit accounts so the only way to get these prices were in the betting shop well in Cheltenham that morning you would think it was grand national day such were the ques to get a bet on and almost everyone had betting slips with mole boards name on at the price,as far as I know everyone got on ,the horse was sent of quite a bit shorter and I think finished 4th or 5th jumping the last with every chance as he did in the next 5 champion hurdles.
Report jimnast May 30, 2025 4:53 PM BST
Moving on a couple of years you could get prices the evening before if you went in the queens hotel and get a bet they were great days no arbing just punters backing there opinions against the bookmakers.
Report steerforth May 30, 2025 5:01 PM BST
"I'm never going to feel the same affection for one of those Stupidnames De Francais who win the Gold Cup but cost the price of a house."
Couldn't agree more Screaming. One of my absolute pet hates down the years is the borderline abuse of our heritage that takes place in the naming of racehorses. But its not just the D'oudairies, the De Champs and the Collanges, that merge together in the mind. I lost patience with the Mukk, Mubs and horde of AAs in the Shadwell empire that have become so hard to recall as time moves on.
And then there's the Minella whatevers, the Gabriel glut that seems thankfully to be at an end but left nothing behind in the memory.
Right now I have a dislike for the Godolphin trend of just being plain boring. Noble this and Native that, not to mention the pickapronoun trend in the Magnier catalogue. Coolmore just about get away with the Artist and writer encyclopaedia. I know who **** was, (but sruggle with Was).
Report steerforth May 30, 2025 5:02 PM BST
****. not sure that was starred
Report steerforth May 30, 2025 5:03 PM BST
Just realised why that got censored! Hilarious.

Y E A T S
Report iswearitsoath June 1, 2025 10:07 PM BST
NH; Jodami, Grey Abbey, Seagram, Best Mate, Looks Like Trouble
Flat; Sea The Stars, Frankel, Lear Spear, Daylami, Silver Patriarch

Honourable mentions to Denman, Dr Leunt, Behrajan, Suny Bay and The Grey Monk.
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