Account over 11k in front restricted £100 a month now JOKERS

Would it be a daft question to ask, as to why you've only opened a BF account last December?

My trigger for the safer gambling police interrogation was late night and early morning betting activity. Not deposits. However this is as flawed a strategy as saying because i buy wine to drink later on with my daily shop at 1pm i must be any alcoholic because i buy wine at 1pm.

Only chance of doing away with this nonsense is to vote Reform into power next election.

Farage likes a bet and would listen to us! First this he should do would be to disband the Gambling

Commission.

He has lost his deposit a couple of times tbf

Deposit 100, win a million, withdraw the million, and immediately it's like the million won never existed. You'll still be deposit-restricted.

Why do they never explain such a nonsense approach?

Wouldn't make a difference, the books have been restricting for years anyway, this just gave them an excuse to continue, unless they were forced to accept a bet by law like in Spain "which will never happen over here" they won't stop restrictions.

Been saying since the start of all this, the states is opening up to them, they do not need us and don't care.

Mostly bet in running I'd say 98% a loss on greyhounds where I was getting out of positions but they are total blinkered and these people who make these decisions have no clue about gambling so if you do play a different product then that's against the laws because how they treat you it seems that way suppose it's like doing a crime and waiting for the knock on the front door by the Betfair police just no common sense being used

Smark....ets.....****.....match.....book.......

Bet........
...daq

But they've always struggled inrun

Tried purple that's why I come over to this lot as purple nothing in there if you think bf is bad try them matchbook no betting assistant hit the experience just before Cheltenham they have me the week grace which would of had to pay £862 then hit abad run then suppose the top us along the way and a deposit of 3 k then lost that then went to go again then the big stewards inquiry

Expert fee just before

When I complained I said I know someone who's account is behind he claims universal credit and they put a SPEND BUDGET of £500 a month on his account I just forgot what is this company called again B something if anyone can tell me

why don't you give them the details they want?

they charging you for each comma?

I know people who have sent loads of stuff in and made no difference even 1 person I know sent all stuff in and closed the account lifetime profit of over 1 million work that 1 out I just think they pick and choose who they want and hide behind these checks I paid nearly 10k in 4 .months so god knows

sorry, don't buy it

your acc makes a profit, you want it open so you'd supply the info rather than guess based on "someone else"

if there's a reason you can't supply that's your business but a winner would do comply before they gave up on the account

Not a guess on on what happened on somebody's account I saw the emails took him ages to send information in and still a no

ok, well you're making lots of excuses not to provide so you know the reason for it, good luck with your next acc

I know the reason for it too!!!!

As I said will post the exert fee portal if somebody can tell me how to

I'm not sending in my bank statement in for a clueless individual to inspect then start asking about my PRIVATE information about certain transactions

then you won't get more than 100, plenty of us have had to give up info, you're not unique

You are missing the point I'm trying to make about the way they go around things they wait till balance is low then they pull the rug from beneath you as I said if was doing 10k and making 4 deposits a day then I can understand

no bud, you're missing the point

you make money and by failing to comply you don't

by all means moan about the process, we all do but the first thing to do is get your account issue fixed so you can trade on

Elise if you think that is fair then that's your opinion and everyone is entitled 2 one

it isn't fair, but it's unavoidable and if you want to make money you'll have to join the rest of us that have been yanked

He hasn't said it was fair, he was being brutally honest on the way to go.

my acc was lifetime 1.5 million profit, lost 16k on a dubai race got pulled, asked me for bank accs, property portfolio, share info and a whole host of stuff and i still had about 25k in my acc but my deposits were hacked

I'm off out now for a few drinks so can't continue the discussion which I'd like to continue at some point best of luck all going forward

you too but as a winner be sensible, carry on by giving them the info, then escalate the complaint ask to speak to a senior person and get a call back, failing that most of us sent an email to the ceo

May 18, 2025 -- 6:28PM, elise wrote:

my acc was lifetime 1.5 million profit, lost 16k on a dubai race got pulled, asked me for bank accs, property portfolio, share info and a whole host of stuff and i still had about 25k in my acc but my deposits were hacked

But this is the point. You dont even have to do that for a 500k mortgage but to deposit more than 100 a month? A mortgage asks for 1 payslip and one months bank statements to lend 500k. Plus what do you think BF do with all this info? Where is their policy or terms as to how they store it? Who has access to it? How long they keep it? Its more draconian than any other financial institution and its for a leisure activity. Its madness!

separate issue and yes valid, but the first point is if you make your living on the exchanges then you need your account

how and why they do what they do and how safe your data is, is another can of shoite

they are covering themselves from fines for not having a due diligence process, but it's too strict a process and at the first level is a checklist tick box exercise that the people dealing with it don't have power to amend, it needs to get escalated to have your account dealt with by someone higher up who can look at it objectively

betfair will listen you just need to get to the right people

If LTV % is anywhere near 70% yo gunna need more than one payslip for a 500k property I wood imagine, regardless whatever you do, don't let emm see any  gambling deposits ffs[.

DIE LINKE18 May 25 17:59Joined: 26 Jun 03 | Topic/replies: 10,071 | Blogger: DIE LINKE's blog
they charging you for each comma?

I have discipline of steel.

But it took all the will power I could muster not to comment on the lack of commas

sounds like someone's been shaftshaftering paudy on his own markets ...

paudy no likey, bye bye time

some pointers for you runrun.Stop using other peoples details/accounts,as the only reason you wont send off docs is because you dont want them to see the payments to your bank acc.11k in 6 months is just above min wage so maybe consider getting a job or try having a bet before the race.Anyway good luck and see you on here again under a different name with the same problem.

^that might be it

i ironed it out a while ago and couldnt deposit more than 300. couldnt show em any bank statements and just had to wear it and adjust steaks

"Deposit 100, win a million, withdraw the million, and immediately it's like the million won never existed. You'll still be deposit-restricted."     Best post on the thread sums up the situation.   Doesn't matter how much you are lifetime in front on here or how much you have in the bank.  If you're income is p1ss poor ( eg state pension ) you are on £100 a month whatever documents you send 'em.

Rico is correct. I cannot withdraw if I want to play decent steaks now and in the future.

Who hasn't been deposit limited by befair?

.

Have you been restricted fred ?

I haven't....yet!

A good few duffy..

Freddie all quiet….

Not Betfair restricted .... yet

freddiewilliams19 May 25 14:21Joined: 12 Mar 06 | Topic/replies: 15,633 | Blogger: freddiewilliams's blog
Who hasn't been deposit limited by befair?

Only a guess, but I would imagine anybody that hasn't deposited or tried to deposit from the point in time when they started pretending they were interested in safer/responsible gambling. I never envisaged ever depositing again anyway (I'd guess my last deposit was in about 2002) - but I stopped withdrawing for about 5 months when this all fist kicked off. Assumed everybody else (in a position to do so) would do the same.

Surprised to see so many people (that aren't net losers) having issues.

Management......what rules to keep under restriction radar?

no deposit since 2002

cripes. i deposit every day and twice on saturdays

Like I said, IMO, you can deposit, I don't know the ins and outs and how BF judge it but I reckon the people who have been pulled have at the point they get tugged have crossed some sort of line in BF's opinion where they have been judged to be chasing/out of control.

Just an opinion, but the fact is that there are some of us who do deposit regularly, regardless of long term profit/loss and have had no issues...yet, so what's the difference from those who deposit and have been pulled....what are we doing different that evades capture?

freddiewilliams19 May 25 14:57Joined: 12 Mar 06 | Topic/replies: 15,634 | Blogger: freddiewilliams's blog
Management......what rules to keep under restriction radar?

No idea freddie tbh - and others will say otherwise - but surely (at least for Affordability Checks) common sense and logic dictate that the trigger is depositing.

Maybe it is more sophisticated than that or maybe it will get more sophisticated in time - but being blunt, they brought this in pretty quickly driven by panic and fear, so I'd imagine it's a very basic.

I thought it was heavy losses.... especially on a 24 hour period

It's all about deposits. So don't.

I think my heaviest daily loss on one horse ( lay ) or even per day  here was about a grand. But I won a few hundred  on the horse cos I got BOG  bet 3 65.  Never any chance of losing.

So how do you explain those who deposit that haven't been pulled?

I agree deposits must be an issue but there must be something else that off-sets that issue for some to allow them to get away with it...and like I said I think it's behaviour.

Maybe some algorithm looks at P&L, betting patterns, timings, deposits, etc., but it's always attempts to deposit that get flagged for further hassle. They don't seem to allow for withdrawals at all, which is my main bugbear.

Anyway, there's zero chance of any operator making public their exact methodology.

duffy - assuming that depositing is the initial trigger for referral, there could be any number of secondary factors that get checked and have kept you out of the net. I'm pretty "well behaved" (if I say so myself) but I'm still not prepared to find out (the hard way) what they are.

The morbid individual who started all this North Korean type P must be looking for some sort of recognition….

I noticed a purple headed figure doing a bit of squawking,surely it can’t be down the this individual….

One fell asleep in the circus on the Thames like a beached whale,,only takes one to start the ball rolling..

An honourable mention of yourself on the"barstewards"last night,aceform

Yeah…i heard it,chuckled a bit,a good listen on a Sunday night with coffee in bed….

Bit of banter and humour….also good talking points tbh…

bettinghelp19 May 25 15:39Joined: 11 Sep 06 | Topic/replies: 1,195 | Blogger: bettinghelp's blog
Anyway, there's zero chance of any operator making public their exact methodology.

This is true bettinghelp - but if they were to do so, surely it would actually achieve the (supposed) objective.

i.e. If they were to tell you what they deem irresponsible, by definition people could avoid the process by behaving responsibly. Mission accomplished.

But of course responsible gambling isn't really their objective. They're only looking for the appearance of safer/responsible gambling with the minimum possible damage to their bottom line.

This is true bettinghelp - but if they were to do so, surely it would actually achieve the (supposed) objective.

i.e. If they were to tell you what they deem irresponsible, by definition people could avoid the process by behaving responsibly. Mission accomplished.

Absolutely!!!!, it's irresponsible on their part not to spell it all out, where else in society would you get something concerned for your safety not telling you how to protect yourself!!!!

which betrays the following point made by TM

But of course responsible gambling isn't really their objective. They're only looking for the appearance of safer/responsible gambling with the minimum possible damage to their bottom line.

as the real truth in all of this!!!!

I can safely say it was nothing to do with my betting patterns in my case. Changed address but when I tried to change phone number got locked out of account. Then when I got in touch they took the chance to bring  up my income.  They couldn't point the finger at any large losses or chasing. Lifetime profit on here.

Change of address can throw the fox into the hen hut tbh…

Probably red flag….time to investigate..

Howard,you joined in 2003,you would have got a written contract from betfair when you joined.

oi aceform. you been squealing to notfair?

mitolo got an email 2 weeks ago stating that he (me) is on notice and if i transgress i will be permanently removed from the forum

what is surprising is what it was for. being satirical with your forum moniker. incredible and the last thing i thought would have given them reason to give me the elbow. lord nose ive given them plenty of others yet for them to pull up this one suggests a complaint has gone in

No chance,one thing i ain’t is a squawk tbh..

Why would you think it was me ?

Strange tbf….I don’t squeal or block,not my style tbh…

well i did say it was surprising and i could only surmise it was prompted but i totally accept your denial

odd. anyway, you wont be getting your moniker mangled by me any more. mitolo will do me in if hes binned

mintrolo

Ffs

quite like mint munchies, but not rolos

Below is the only post I've ever seen from Fib O'Nacci.



Maybe he/she was banned for referring to him/her as 'mintrolo'.

If we're talking chocolate it was an egregious act to discount the Red Bounty (dark chocolate)

Good evening I spoke to a very helpful agent today to try and increase my limit asked what my betting strategy I explained that so asked what deposit limit would be sufficient I said £2500 a month as need to trade things so let's see what happens I'm willing to talk to them

just logged into new forum to look at that. odd

if you can be banned for mucking about with aceforms moniker who knows?

didnt know black bounties had gorn. i used to eat plenty of both but moved on to posho choc now

boost and drifters i used to consume also but havent seen either for while

Message to Bertney it's my account in my name my address so I'm not using anybodys account

mitolo 19 May 25 18:55 
just logged into new forum to look at that. odd

if you can be banned for mucking about with aceforms moniker who knows?

didnt know black bounties had gorn. i used to eat plenty of both but moved on to posho choc now

boost and drifters i used to consume also but havent seen either for while

mitolo…you are turning into an proper one eyed milkman tbh……ffs

REPORTED

although at least im only turning into one and theres still time to stop. many others on here gone for good

Lol reported ffs

Schoolboy grass ….

2.5 a month......do u earn 10k a month after tax

not earning 10k a month after tax in london would constitute you being a pauper

message to runrun. Send your docs off then if its your acc and it has not been floated up by a third party.I am sure they wont judge if there is the odd willie thorn website payment you are trying to hide. While you are here have a glance at the bottom right of the keyboard , next to the M key.

I can lend him a few ,,,, …. .?? !!!!

Someone said docs are no good unless u have a regular income.....pensions don't work....read that 2

These spending limits do not increase as inflation rises therefore over time they will become more and more draconian.

Cardinal is another on a hunner

Listened to Barstewards for the first time, really enjoyable, funny as fook, the bit when they were reminiscing about everyone in the bookies all staring at the tannoy in the corner listening to commentary and when the race was entering the closiong stages and everyone was getting wotrked up you'd get "GOING IN MONMORE"....cracked me up that

I distinctly remember "Hare's running Hackney" during the final furlong of a classic.

Duffy .
I would bet long odds on we are all guilty  of looking at the tanoy. Hope you are well from a sun drenched lake district.
Ronnie.

Eny knews runrun

It's in punter's interest and Betfair's interest that you detail your case and complain to the GC.  Not much relevance to you now, but if you paid £9.6k in commission, you should be able to win about 5 times that gross before you pay Expert Fee.   It also suggests your betting is quite volatile and that your £11k winnings (could perhaps) quickly turn into a loss.

You only have to look at the individual case details behind Corbett Sports' huge fine, to see why Betfair are treading so cautiously.  The key lesson to anyone is if you are winning, leave a sizeable chunk of those winnings in the account.

Any knews dorunrun

Remember this. https://x.com/racingblogger/status/1035227022765764609/photo/1

Bookmakers are the scum of the earth. Their unsavoury attitude and unsanctionable practises are unparalleled in the corporate world.

Betfair, in its day, was a beacon of hope before it sold out to corporate greed.

I've been gubbed. Here is £2 max; sly 250p; 'Denise' 100p; billie 200p; 'crookes' 0p. Soon I'll go grey.

just use daq, they dont restrict, well they do, but its 2 grand per day...that is deposits......

betfair just ignore deposit limits....id been away from betfair for a few years, just used daq and when i came back there was a restriction of £500 per month (deposit), which is still the case.

i have a limit agreed of 2 grand per month  (deposit), but its ignored, with a note saying, betfair limit of £500..(imposed) without any reason given.