French guineas Longchamp

Good luck Foyles

cheers George I think ill need it !

just seen a couple of nonners ^^

I can see Luther turning the form around with Detain and he's almost 3 times the price of that one on here. Luther was having his first run on the AW last time out and the race really wasn't run to suit him. He also looked in need of the race and he'll appreciate getting back on Turf. I also like Camille Paradiso who ran a decent race on seasonal debut when the stable's horse were needing a run. I expect him to take a good step forward from that run (he'll need to) and the going looks fine for him. I also don't think we seen the best of this horse yet.

I've split a 1 point between the pair.

Good luck with yours Foyles.

good luck whippin

Money pouring on to Ridari to give the Aga Khan another classic. Possibly the double with the favourite in the Pouliches.

fav wins

Moore what a  ride  came out of  the "CLOULDS" IMPOSSIBLE POSITION.

Henri Matisse flew past but Jonquil came close to getting back up. HM probably a sprinter but still good enough. So Juddmonte end up with second in both GB and France. Detain was a close fifth but what have they got left for Ireland?

looked a strong early pace

Happy with my pre race analysis there. Both not good enough but they both race fine races.

*both ran

pointless stewards enquiry

hardly throwing the 1st 2 out for interference to the 5th are they

typical my 2.000 gns ante post horse

jonquil 80% cause of it, henri 20%
move on

unlucky whippin well done winners

Yeah, they ran well. They will both win nice races at some point this season.  I don't really have an opinion in the Filles race. But good luck with yours Foyles.

Not great for the French Crop over a mile

But Ridari is a May foul and had the horn beforehand so performed well and better still to come from him!

Punchin was dreadful on Misunderstood as was Heads jock who was alongside Henri but tried to circle the field! Two bad rides for you foyleswar

Still no verdict on She's Perfect 1000G appeal. It's been over 5 hrs. Is this normal? Or is positive?

im waiting with interest , dont know if its settled today or do they take few days

The French are not known for their rapidity which is why they eat snails.
It's the only thing they can catch

result stands

What a disappointment? Did the French stewards not consider the reverse angle (from the back) eg it was Moore (on Exactly) who deviated to the left bumping Zarigana after a crack from Moore to the horse's right?

Zarigana remains the winner of the Poule d'Essai des Pouliches after the appeal lodged by connections of Shes Perfect was unsuccessful.

The raceday stewards at Longchamp judged that Shes Perfect came off a straight line at Longchamp, carrying Ryan Moore on Exactly across Zarigana, interference they deemed to have cost the Aga Khan Studs' filly more than the margin of her nose defeat.

A hearing lasting an hour took place on Tuesday, with Charlie Fellowes saying he and Shes Perfect's rider Kieran Shoemark had put forward some "legitimate arguments" to the three-person panel.

However, France Galop published the outcome on Wednesday with no change to the stewards initial awarding of the Classic to Zarigana.

Now there’s a surprise…

Maybe the colour of the silks….

100% correct decision as forecasted

Aye….na bother..

Absolutely the correct decision, I've no idea what Fitzgerald was looking at with his interpretation.  On FG website you can see 4 angles, check out vue 3 and vue 4... on vue 3 you can see She's Perfect veers off a line pushing Exactly onto Z.. Z probably lost a length.
On vue 4 rear angle, and probably the one Fitzgerald was referring to, you can see strips in the grass and it's clear She's Perfect veers off a true line by 2 strips to the left as we see it, pushing Exactly onto Z..

People here are trying to make theories to promote She's Perfect.  The fact Barzalona rode a crap race, losing his whip and slapping down the neck is immaterial.

They were looking at the furlong marker….Moore drifted into the Frenchman…..Frenchman lost ground…Bla..

What chance the French stewards outlawing hitting a horse anywhere with the jockey's hand in the future - dropping the whip or not? The jockey of Zarigana needs a censure of some sort for sure.

How could they censure the jockey when he broke no rules implausible?

I was just giving her a pat on the neck Guv.

the appeal was based on seething resentment not reality. the decision was correct and would be so anywhere, even here

as a bonus the horrible fat chanting sockless oiks didnt get what they wanted

Read Ryan Moore's take on it, it tells you exactly what happened.

I’ve been critical of Shoemark riding, but see he did nothing wrong here. Connections and hometown decision as the Hulk pointed out powerful unit in French racing. Since the passing of the Aga they’d of waned a classic.

I don’t like the way they took all horses from Rouget after all he did for them. I don’t know how ill he is but Frankel helped Cecil focus on something else and gave him hope.

Dupre was my fav along with Delzangles - why did he fall out of favour Hulk? Something to do with Ridasynia?

I’ve seen Moore employ the side swipe manoeuvre many a time to protect the rail at Ascot, Hawkeye hung severely in Dante.

If he does that at Epsom, he might end up down the high street! Laugh

Beware any jock following that one in the Derby! Silly

hometown my derriere

it was the correct decision in any town. leave the conspiracy bollox out of it

You’re welcome to your opinion but I’ve seen worse. No conspiracy or the mention of how the French view us over here.
Having lived in France I’m qualified on that score!!

It has correctly been disqualified according to the rules in place.
Get over it

Nothing to get over, I backed neither! I don’t bet on every race, as said I’ve seen worse.

Ask Mick Channon if the rules were right (way back when they were different) after Dylan Thomas carved up Youmzain.
Another decision in favour of the bigger stable. Money talks.

May 21, 2025 -- 4:56PM, Delashay wrote:

You’re welcome to your opinion but I’ve seen worse. No conspiracy or the mention of how the French view us over here. Having lived in France I’m qualified on that score!!

Northern France they absolutely hate the English.

Professional Stewards would be the answer as in the USA.
However,extremely unlikely to happen here or in France

May 21, 2025 -- 6:32PM, CaptainCristy wrote:

May 21, 2025 --  4:56PM, Delashay wrote:You’re welcome to your opinion but I’ve seen worse. No conspiracy or the mention of how the French view us over here. Having lived in France I’m qualified on that score!!Northern France they absolutely hate the English.

Parisian's see that they are different to the rest. The word peasant is still used to describe country folk!
My ex daren’t tell her old grandmother who was getting on (obviously for fear of upsetting her) that she was with an Englishman!
The scars run deep even if we helped liberate them.
Obviously not everyone is the same and one can only talk from experience.

England were playing Italy in the Euro final, guess who granny was cheering!

I think that they should have professional stewards, there is so much at stake involved and it does leave a mark on the trainer if group horses aren’t the norm.

If the rematch occurs and the going is soft I’d say that they’d fancy their chances. I had no idea of who Basher was but he was interviewed on the morning of the race and said it might be too quick. 

Add to that what Ollie Sangster said about his runner :

Sangster also had news on Nell Gwyn runner-up Celestial Orbit, who returned with a valid excuse after being well beaten in the French 1,000 Guineas on her latest start.

"The ground was way too quick for her and not the good to soft that was advertised," he said. "She's fine, but needs cut in the ground. We're very lucky to have these quality fillies and hopefully they can all have good seasons."

They were (media) desperate for the Aga Khan filly to be a superstar and even Graffard when interviewed seemed reluctant to class her as such.

Anyway Fellows has a lovely filly.

I wouldn't back it with stolen at Ascot

Not sure how anyone watching that race could think She's Perfect did not interfere with the Aga's filly.
Opinions I suppose!!!
Then the conspiracy theories come out!! How we love the 21st century.

A great pity that BF did not open a Market on the appeal

The Aga Khan Studs and France Galop have announced a new partnership which will see the racing and breeding operation take over an across-the-card sponsorship of Prix Jacques le Marois day during Deauville’s August racing festival.

The Aga Khan Studs will also sponsor the Group 3 Prix François Boutin, the Listed Prix Nureyev and Group 3 Prix Lady O'Reilly-Prix Minerve, an event in which the Aga Khan holds the record as an owner, with 11 victories since 1966, notably with Zarshana and Candarliya.

The Prix Jacques le Marois will take place on Sunday, August 17 in 2025, coinciding with the Arqana August Yearling Sale.

Nemone Routh, French racing manager of the Aga Khan Studs, said: “His Highness and Princess Zahra Aga Khan are committed to supporting the French racing industry, with four of our stallions based at Haras de Bonneval: Siyouni, one of Europe’s leading sires, Zarak, who is enjoying a meteoric rise, and our two young recruits, Cartier champion three-year-old Vadeni and Group-winning miler Erevann.

“The Group 1 Prix Jacques le Marois is one of the finest eight-furlong races in Europe. Its exceptional track record speaks for itself, and we are delighted to partner with France Galop to contribute to the promotion of this day, which occupies an essential place in the French racing calendar."

Elie Hennau, managing director of France Galop, said: "For more than 100 years, the Prix Jacques le Marois has been the epitome of talent and speed, becoming one of the summer highlights of the Deauville racing season. Each year it attracts a very international audience and raises the profile of French racing.

"France Galop is proud to continue the history of this significant race in our racing calendar with a new prestigious partner, the Aga Khan Studs. This major event, as well as the other races on the card that day, are an absolute must for any racing enthusiast.

"France Galop would like to take this opportunity to thank the Haras de Fresnay-le-Buffard and the Niarchos family for their unwavering commitment to the Prix Jacques le Marois. Thanks to this exceptional partnership, the reputation of this challenge over the mile has gone from strength to strength. With our new partner, the Aga Khan Studs, we share the ambition to continue to grow the international renown of this outstanding competition."


Basher contributes nothing and was never getting the race.

King of the conspiracy theorists hulk.
Absolute cobblers

money talks

apart from that it knocked the o'brien horse into the aga khan horse, costing it more than a nose, and it was therefore correctly thrown out.

Correct.
I am no lover of the french either

Can you imagine The Aga Khan doing an Aliysa if Zarigana was demoted post the appeal? All hell will break loose in French Horseracing.

That could be difficult considering he died in February

Think he is not longer with us

ROFL AIS

he died but his estate and influence on french horseracing lives on

'hulk23', indeed. I think that would have happened had the appeal gone against The Aga Khan.

Khalid Abdullah replaced Starkey; Juddmonte replaced Shoemark.

He who pays the piper calls the tunes implausible

May 21, 2025 -- 7:39PM, uptheirons wrote:

I wouldn't back it with stolen at Ascot

Longchamp and Ascot present two different tests entirley, Simply Perfect was tiring over an easier toboggan mile in ground that the big filly didn’t love, hitting it hard. Whereas there’s not much of the Aga filly. The trial (where she was clearly overs) still showed that there isn’t much between them.

May 21, 2025 -- 8:28PM, hulk23 wrote:

The Aga Khan Studs and France Galop have announced a new partnership which will see the racing and breeding operation take over an across-the-card sponsorship of Prix Jacques le Marois day during Deauville’s August racing festival.The Aga Khan Studs will also sponsor the Group 3 Prix François Boutin, the Listed Prix Nureyev and Group 3 Prix Lady O'Reilly-Prix Minerve, an event in which the Aga Khan holds the record as an owner, with 11 victories since 1966, notably with Zarshana and Candarliya.The Prix Jacques le Marois will take place on Sunday, August 17 in 2025, coinciding with the Arqana August Yearling Sale.Nemone Routh, French racing manager of the Aga Khan Studs, said: “His Highness and Princess Zahra Aga Khan are committed to supporting the French racing industry, with four of our stallions based at Haras de Bonneval: Siyouni, one of Europe’s leading sires, Zarak, who is enjoying a meteoric rise, and our two young recruits, Cartier champion three-year-old Vadeni and Group-winning miler Erevann.“The Group 1 Prix Jacques le Marois is one of the finest eight-furlong races in Europe. Its exceptional track record speaks for itself, and we are delighted to partner with France Galop to contribute to the promotion of this day, which occupies an essential place in the French racing calendar."Elie Hennau, managing director of France Galop, said: "For more than 100 years, the Prix Jacques le Marois has been the epitome of talent and speed, becoming one of the summer highlights of the Deauville racing season. Each year it attracts a very international audience and raises the profile of French racing. "France Galop is proud to continue the history of this significant race in our racing calendar with a new prestigious partner, the Aga Khan Studs. This major event, as well as the other races on the card that day, are an absolute must for any racing enthusiast."France Galop would like to take this opportunity to thank the Haras de Fresnay-le-Buffard and the Niarchos family for their unwavering commitment to the Prix Jacques le Marois. Thanks to this exceptional partnership, the reputation of this challenge over the mile has gone from strength to strength. With our new partner, the Aga Khan Studs, we share the ambition to continue to grow the international renown of this outstanding competition."Basher contributes nothing and was never getting the race.

Great info it’s all there. How many AGA horses are trained here in Britain?

May 21, 2025 -- 8:05PM, brandyontherocks wrote:

Not sure how anyone watching that race could think She's Perfect did not interfere with the Aga's filly.Opinions I suppose!!!Then the conspiracy theories come out!! How we love the 21st century.

You’re quite right. Delius and Arc in one sentence cough cough!

What interference did Delius cause in the Arc?

Slight interference in a lot of races tbh…swerving leaving the stalls,tightening up on bends and horses falling back because they are done…..a dreadful outcome to be honest.

I don’t believe any was mentioned, it was as you know in relation to your mocking comment, “Opinions I suppose!!!” (Three exclamation marks) And the opinion and selections that you took re: the Arc last year.

I’m not here to name call, bully, gang up or try to be cleverer than anyone, correct their spelling of grammar. We all get it wrong now and again and that’s ok, it’s life.

If I can learn because I’m always open to or share an insight I’d like to do so. The rest I’ve no need for. I just love racing particularly this time of year when there’s a lot of unknowns and potential for big odds.

I don’t think she should have been thrown out, never bet on her or the favourite and that’s that. I’ve given reasons why unlike others.

The last two colts to have won the prix du Lys were Rail Link 2006 and the dependable Flintshire 2013.
Both however took in the Grand Prix De Paris before taking in the Prix Niel.

“Discussions with the Coolmore partners look likely to be geared around an autumn campaign, with the Arc the obvious target, while Roth said he was not a fan of the idea of heading to the Grand Prix de Paris next month if the summer turns into a hot one.”

This should have rang alarm bells not wanting to take that group 1 in. It’s one of the stats that counts towards being an Arc winner having already secured a Group 1.

So if I can help I will chip in with the odd bit of knowledge.

As Bob Marley sung,

“If you know your history
Then you would know where you coming from…”
- Buffalo Soldier.

May 22, 2025 -- 7:53AM, formoftheace wrote:

Slight interference in a lot of races tbh…swerving leaving the stalls,tightening up on bends and horses falling back because they are done…..a dreadful outcome to be honest.

Agree, but as others have pointed out the French will have detested their way of celebrating.

Anyone who’s seen Fake or Fortune on the BBC or not seen it should watch when Fiona and the fella take the Monet (I think it was that) to the Wildenstein’s who preside over what is included within the catalogue raisonné.

The door was shut before they even were heard, their case fell upon deaf ears. One can surmise whether the painting being in British ownership counted against them or not.

As said earlier roots run deep and that family are another power house within France.

stewards make correct decision yet the loons come up with all sorts of nonsense about what could have happened if they hadnt

and if you want historical quotes about the entente cordial or lack of it theres a lot better than a semi-literate half-wit stoned out of his tiny mind 24/7 who smoked himelsf to death in his 30s

May 22, 2025 -- 2:42PM, mitolo wrote:

stewards make correct decision yet the loons come up with all sorts of nonsense about what could have happened if they hadntand if you want historical quotes about the entente cordial or lack of it theres a lot better than a semi-literate half-wit stoned out of his tiny mind 24/7 who smoked himelsf to death in his 30s

Bob Marley is an icon you aren’t, he got cancer from playing football after stubbing his toe.

Oh and in case you don’t believe that, I know a QPR youth player who passed from EXACTLY the same cause!

no he didn't

Bob Marley is an icon you aren’t, he got cancer from playing football after stubbing his toe.


  Anything to do with the 40 Ton of weed and 500 boxes of Rizlas.?

EWTF has Bob Marley got to do with this thread?
Get a life Delashay

no Delashay, no cry