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RacingSilks
18 Apr 25 21:19
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The issue with horse racing is that for most of us the bet is what generates the interest in a race.  Following racing is very different to following football.  Ever just had a bet to take an interest in the next race?  Racing Silks Dream Yard is a competition designed to allow horse racing fans that opportunity get involved in every race considering multiple factors and competing with your friends and peers - without the need to bet to generate that interest.  Let's be clear here - Racing Silks is NOT anti betting, we're all for it.  Racing Silks is about a community of horse racing fans going toe to toe with their personal views/analysis.  It's about sharing your passion for the sport with like minded people.  And best of all its completely free - all you need is an email address and an opinion.  Want to know more - ask away, or visit racingsilks.co.uk.  We have a competition for the Fairyhouse Easter Festival and you're are welcome to join in the fun.

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By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 18 Apr 25 22:12
Blatant advertising: the Betfair Community is a lot of things, but it’s not Exchange and Mart or a free ads newspaper. Don’t use your posts and blogs to advertise or promote anything which would be deemed commercial activity.
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RacingSilks
When: 18 Apr 25 22:23
Guilty of plugging the website, not guilty of promoting commercial activity.  Genuinely looking for like minded people to engage in a fun, free, competition.  I appreciate your concern but I can assure that is not what it's about.  The aim of Racing Silks Dream Yard is to open up horse racing as a sport to a wider community by breaking down the stigmas attached.  If you visit the site you will not find a single commercial entity - simply analyse and insights and regular healthy competition.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 18 Apr 25 22:27
Not my concern, I couldnt really care, it was taken from b/f guidelines, can you explain if as you say  " You will not find find a single commercial entity " What the SUBSCRIBE button was for on every page. ?
By:
RacingSilks
When: 18 Apr 25 22:35
The subscription is a free newsletter email.  It's used to remind players of upcoming events and provides competition updates - maybe that should be made clearer on the site.  What do you think of the concept - literally been up and running since November covering the big jumps events.  Trying to get the word out there now the website is up and running .
By:
RacingSilks
When: 18 Apr 25 22:38
It's would be great to get feedback from horse racing fans.  It's a game I developed with my brothers to compete against each other around 5 years ago.  Started of just doing Cheltenham, then Ascot. We really enjoy it.
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s.kenbo
When: 19 Apr 25 08:10
It doesn’t look bad. Can’t really tell what you have to do at a quick glance, but I guess it’s similar to Fantasy Football, or even the Fantasy Horse racing that the Telegraph used to do. On there you picked out five jockeys, five trainers and a horse in each race. Points were awarded on an SP basis.

I may have a go. It’s the passing on of email addresses to unknown quantities that puts me off.
By:
RacingSilks
When: 19 Apr 25 15:30
Hi s.kenbo thanks for getting in touch.  You'd be very welcome to play.  I understand in this day and age trust is an issue - the collection of an email address simply serves as a unique identifier/username when entering the competition.  Subscriptions are optional to receive updates by email. Here is a guide of how to play: https://racingsilks.co.uk/how-to-play-dream-yard/ based on your feedback I have now added a button onto the competition interface page for easier access, thanks.

I've heard about the telegraph competition.  Our scoring system is also based around SP, however, from what I can gather we are the only game that scores every runner, trainer and jockey based on finishing position from first to last.  This creates lots of opportunity for players come up with different strategies to maximise points - it really is more than just picking the winner, especially as points double, triple or quadruple based on the contributing factors.

Hopefully Fairyhouse is back on tomorrow and you can give it a try.  If you have any further questions please don't hesitate to ask.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 19 Apr 25 15:42
REPORTED
By:
colonelflay
When: 19 Apr 25 16:01
All racing forums become dominated by embittered losers who hate the game. I should know, I'm one!
By:
colonelflay
When: 19 Apr 25 16:01
All racing forums become dominated by embittered losers who hate the game. I should know, I'm one!
By:
RacingSilks
When: 19 Apr 25 17:15
Maybe it's time to rediscover the love!
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 19 Apr 25 17:45
Comps on here already full with every Comp you can think of, Not enough hours in the day for anotherone but goodluck.
By:
RacingSilks
When: 19 Apr 25 18:39
Thanks. I guess we'll have to focus on trying to be the best.  The one thing I've always wanted is for it to be free, fun and educational.  Following this great sport shouldn't come conditioned with feeling the need to bet or feel like following this sport comes with a stigma!
By:
barstool
When: 19 Apr 25 18:48
Sport and Horse Racing is a bit of a misnomer.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 19 Apr 25 18:55
I’ve had a go.

Must say I don’t know 95% of those horses so I’ve just had a guess!
By:
RacingSilks
When: 19 Apr 25 19:38
Haha @barstool you're probably right - I think that's why I have tried to base the gameplay around the fantasy football model.  It struck me when Rich Ricci said he uses horse racing as his way of competing now he can't play sports anymore. That is probably also why I've designed this game as a way of competing against someone other than the bookies because we all know that's not a level playing field!
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RacingSilks
When: 19 Apr 25 19:45
Thanks @kenbo much appreciated.  Yeah to be fair, unless you follow Irish racing week in week out it's a bit of a minefield (all part of the fun though). As a rule of thumb if the meeting/festival has a grade 1/group 1 then I'll run a competition.  Keep the focus purely at the top end.  I didn't realise this, before I looked into it - but there are more Grade 1s in Ireland than the UK for jumps racing!
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Apr 25 20:55
I don't have a problem with your product but you are in clear breach of BF's T&C's.
Post again and I will report you
By:
saddo
When: 19 Apr 25 21:36
Rather mean spirited, did your team get gubbed again?
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Apr 25 21:49
How many times have we seen Greeks bearing gifts saddo?
By:
penzance
When: 19 Apr 25 21:53
How do you know he's Greek?
By:
chavman
When: 19 Apr 25 22:01
he smashes plates and eats kebabs
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Apr 25 22:04
At last,some cultured comments
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RacingSilks
When: 19 Apr 25 23:21
UptheIrons I hear your concerns and having consulted the T&Cs more closely is does appear I have been sailing a little bit close the wind.  However, please be reassured I am not going to jump out of a trojan horse and start deceiving people! The majority of my comments have been about my ideas and thoughts about betting and horse racing. My product is genuine and if anyone wants to know more they can message me privately - I respect the feedback and understand Betfair has to protect the forum space.
By:
uptheirons
When: 19 Apr 25 23:59
Reported as promised
By:
RacingSilks
When: 20 Apr 25 06:34
No worries, no hard feelings.
By:
oneten
When: 20 Apr 25 09:48
I have to agree with irons as Racing silks has just the forum literally 2 days ago with the sole intention that he can spam us.
Bad form imo.

If you want to join a forum, great do it and partake in the general discussions.

Or if you want to advertise a product you have for sale / giving away, then take an advert out in the rp or post on 'x'  or wherever takes your fancy, but why join a forum purely to plug your product when it's against the rules ?

At least pretend to be a member for a month before coming on here and taking us all for mugs peddling your product, because you think it's free advertising for you. 

If you were a horse fan you'd have joined this forum years ago.
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By:
s.kenbo
When: 20 Apr 25 10:16
Don’t worry about the naysayers, R/S.

It’s a free to enter Fantasy Horse Racing competition. If you were asking for money I could understand their grievances.

We have been participating in such competitions on here for years. They are with big named companies. The only real gripe people come up with is their dislike for such firm, ie The Sun newspaper for example.
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 20 Apr 25 10:59
Yes, maybe change the " subscribe " button to " free join up ".
  Usually " subscribe " means parting with cash.!
By:
RacingSilks
When: 20 Apr 25 14:21
I have to say this has been a very interesting experience so far.  I 100% respect all the feedback.  I am new to BF community and I have to hold my hands up and say I have been a bit naïve.  I apologise if I have upset anybody here.  I have had a Betfair account for 20 years and absolutely love horse racing (not sure why I never used the forum before). 
This is purely a hobbie for me to develop something that I think people will enjoy.  As I have already mentioned my goal has always been to make this a free activity for people to enjoy (in the same way people play fantasy football).  I've been involved in this game long enough to know that there are a lot of people trying to get your money.  As I have stated this is completely genuine.  I completely understand the concerns around the pop up subscription requests and I have removed them from the website (this is simply a mailing list).  I completely understand the criticism that has come my way.  I guess only time will tell!
By:
Latalomne
When: 20 Apr 25 17:07
I don't follow racing any more, but I have to say this sounds better than any of the initiatives the authorities have come up with to attract (and keep) new people to the game.  It's something they should be getting behind, IMHO.
By:
RacingSilks
When: 20 Apr 25 21:01
Thanks Latalomne, much appreciated.
By:
Johnny The Guesser
When: 21 Apr 25 07:23
What is the point of generating an interest in horse racing if after a few modest 10 and 20 quid bets the punters get reduced to betting buttons and so clear off and do something else ?
By:
second again
When: 21 Apr 25 07:34
How are the running costs of the website and competitions financed ?
By:
RacingSilks
When: 21 Apr 25 09:17
Usual setup costs of a website / domain. I produce all the content and code myself which keeps costs down. Long term objective is to generate sponsorship that can be used to offer prizes. It's early days, and I'm keen to see if the interest is there amongst fellow fans to expand it. One thing is for sure though I want it to be free to play.
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