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07 Apr 25
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Why doesn't each stall handler be allocated one horse at the start of each race. They then line up all the horses and walk forward in unison towards the stalls at the same time. Of course the majority of Horses will (you'd hope) walk straight in. These handlers are then free to assist the handlers with the few horses who are proving troublesome. This would then reduce the time the Horses already in the stalls have to be in there. Good idea or not?
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What happens when there are 31 runners as there were in last season's Cambridgeshire?
Any thoughts Whippin? |
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Do them in batches of 10/15
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Of course, your response was the condescending kind
Each race meeting on the Flat in the UK requires a minimum of 11 fully trained and BHA accredited stalls handlers. This number increases for fields containing 20 or more runners. |
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Irish races flat and jumps up to a year ago or so were routinely off late but now way better than UK equivalents even though the system of loading and getting the race started are exactly the same. It can be done, just need a rocket up them
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'10/15 horses walk forward in unison towards the stalls at the same time'
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If you want to know how it should be done watch Keenland racing this week.
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Maybe Ireland,France and South Africa……
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ITV keep telling us we have the best stalls handlers in the world or have I been taken in by that???
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Everything in British racing is the best in the world according to the gravy train……
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Cheltenham and Willie Mullins record silence them a bit tbh…
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FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LOADING PROCEDURE
1. I have a debutante that is displaying poor stalls behaviour at home, or I have concerns about a horse standing for a long period of time on their first start. What options does the horse have? Under the Starting Procedures Code, the trainer is responsible for ensuring their horse can walk into the stalls with the aid of only two pushers, stand for a minimum of 2 minutes and be comfortable with horses standing on either side while in the stalls. (Note: 5-year average load time for all flat races is 1 minute 47 seconds) It is recommended that trainers bring any horse for a pre-assessment to allow the horse to gain valuable experience away from home in preparation for their first race. At the pre-assessment, the starter can offer advice on loading and recommend if the horse needs more preparation before raceday. 2. What does it mean if my horse receives a trainer Warning, is Reported or is Withdrawn? A trainer Warning is given if a horse displays behaviour during the loading process that is contrary to what is expected in the Starting Procedures Code. This could include reluctance to load, becoming restless in the stalls, kicking, etc. This is the least severe penalty given to a horse. Three trainer warnings in a 12-month period will result in the horse being required to pass a stalls test prior to their next start. Being Reported is when a horse displays a behaviour during the loading process that has not been significant enough to necessitate a withdrawal but has affected the loading process or the safety of horse a rider, thus requiring the horse to pass a stalls test prior to their next start. Withdrawal is when a horse’s behaviour during the loading process affects the safety of horse or rider to such an extent that it contravenes the loading process. A stalls test is required prior to their next start. 3. My horse receives a trainer warning for a behaviour reason inside the stalls. Can I take a Late Load Request (LLR) on their next start? Yes, however, the warning will count against the horse. If the horse receives three warnings in a 12-month period, the horse will be required to successfully complete a stalls test prior to its next start. 4. My horse was withdrawn or reported for a behaviour issue inside the stalls. Can I take a Late Load Request (LLR) on their next start? Yes, if you believe that loading the horse out of sequence will benefit the horse on its next start, you can request this. The LLR will not count against the horse for a period of 12 months from the Starters’ Report. 5. A horse receives a trainer warning for reluctance to load or requiring a good push to load. Can I take a Late Load Request on their next start? No, LLRs are only for horses that exhibit poor behaviour inside the stalls. 6. My horse does not have a history of behavioural issues, but I’m concerned about its behaviour if loaded first and having to wait in the stalls. Can I request a Late Load Request (LLR) for this start? No, the Starting Code is clear that a horse should be able to stand for a minimum of two minutes in the stalls. If you have concerns about your horse’s behaviour, we recommend bringing the horse for a pre-assessment. |
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You're not wrong Reg. Ben Curtis doing well again
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*Rog. It's been a long day! They do seem to have a smoother loading process over there. I know the stalls are a different design to those used here so this probably has something to do with it
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Important differences between countries. 1. The attitude to welfare. In many countries a horse gets a long tom whip across its backside f it does not walk straight in which does make a difference. 2. We do seem to have less handlers per horse in GB and smaller stalls both of which make them slower to load. After the farcical starts at Cheltenham and Aintree, you do wonder if they need stalls as well.
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Sage. I think the long tom is used behind the hoof not on the rump. In any event it's very effective
and does no harm to the horse. Of course such a thing being used here would result in a howling and outrage from the RSPCA and the animal welfare nutters who understand nothing about horses. The US tracks are smart, when the long tom is about to be deployed they avoid the potential outcry by switching cameras. |
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Ripon this evening you would be better off with Ken and barbie
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