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That fall looked awful.
Just hope for the best.
Jockey lucky too.
Just hope for the best.
Jockey lucky too.
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yes lets hope hes ok
i had a few quid on him at 120, backed it a cheltenham. lets hope all is ok
i had a few quid on him at 120, backed it a cheltenham. lets hope all is ok
so i assume that was re nolan being looked at that i caught the tail end of for his ride?
Is the GN winner trending on twitter?
Nope, it's Broadway Boy
Nope, it's Broadway Boy
elise, yes, for failing to pull up earlier I'm guessing
This is a flavour of what is happening on twitter
I am not an avid horse racing fan but the national is usually a family affair. The tradition died today. That was simply the worst fall we have ever seen. I am a grown ass man, don't know the horse, and I am still crushed by what happened. Awful.
I am not an avid horse racing fan but the national is usually a family affair. The tradition died today. That was simply the worst fall we have ever seen. I am a grown ass man, don't know the horse, and I am still crushed by what happened. Awful.
I am still crushed by what happened.
will probably be having his Gonads crushed later
will probably be having his Gonads crushed later
The 1 Industry that creates by far the most animal cruelty in this country is the pet industry.
How many pets die each day due to neglect? Breeding dogs to then have breathing difficulties. Pets left out in the street. Beating of defenceless animals bred for the pet industry.
Not a word said.
But 1 horse dies in a race and its a scandal (which is sad and unfortunate event).
They then look down at their dog nice pat and slam the racing industry.
Hypocrites they are.
Even the ones who treat their pets well. As the side industry to that is many animals have a terrible life.
How many pets die each day due to neglect? Breeding dogs to then have breathing difficulties. Pets left out in the street. Beating of defenceless animals bred for the pet industry.
Not a word said.
But 1 horse dies in a race and its a scandal (which is sad and unfortunate event).
They then look down at their dog nice pat and slam the racing industry.
Hypocrites they are.
Even the ones who treat their pets well. As the side industry to that is many animals have a terrible life.
any photo,s of pet owners whipping their pets to jump an obstacle,if so I can guarentee they,ll get as much stick as horese racing
The RSPA have done an excellent job over the years but are now lead by Anti Horse Racing factions and will never get another penny from me
"Animal Aid" statement...
https://x.com/AnimalAid/status/1908563494372307371
https://x.com/AnimalAid/status/1908563494372307371
Go to any pet sanctuary you can see countless pets that have suffered abuse.
Totalling thousands up and down the country.
Never mind the number of adults and children killed during a year due to dangerous dogs being bred.
Never said they get whipped to jump an obstacle. Didn't realise that's the only form of animal cruelty.
What a stupid thing to say.
RSPCA will never see another penny from me either. After having a direct debit for so many years.
Totalling thousands up and down the country.
Never mind the number of adults and children killed during a year due to dangerous dogs being bred.
Never said they get whipped to jump an obstacle. Didn't realise that's the only form of animal cruelty.
What a stupid thing to say.
RSPCA will never see another penny from me either. After having a direct debit for so many years.
yep and we call animal cruelty out if its seen in public,prosecute those doing it, muzzle dogs .bring in new laws to try and stop it happening,we don't say its what they bred to do let them get on attacking,killing people
Heartbroken but keep punting….
Horse racing and punting on it is stinking with hypocrisy tbh…..
Horse won’t get a second thought tomorrow…..
Horse racing and punting on it is stinking with hypocrisy tbh…..
Horse won’t get a second thought tomorrow…..
Ok so if its not seen in public and behind closed doors its all ok.
Plenty of pets just vanish, go missing, never seen again, beaten in private homes and starved.
.
That's all ok as its not in public.
What a complete idiot.
Plenty of pets just vanish, go missing, never seen again, beaten in private homes and starved.
.
That's all ok as its not in public.
What a complete idiot.
Gravy train and fodder,you won’t be short of a hypocrite tbh….
No….value tho like I said but not my kinda price tbh…
Dear God. You make it 1/5 and turn down 8/11.
What price would you want for the sun to rise in the East tomorrow?
What price would you want for the sun to rise in the East tomorrow?
if that guy on twitter was “crushed” by the fall I hope for his sake he never stumbles across those donkey sanctuary adverts where they’re all in chronic pain with open wounds and hooves like Aladdin’s slippers
or see any of the news about famine or war etc
Probably treated the family to a McDonald’s to brighten up an otherwise horrendous day
or see any of the news about famine or war etc
Probably treated the family to a McDonald’s to brighten up an otherwise horrendous day
Broadway Boy and Celebre D'Allen are undergoing assessment but returned to the stables at Aintree following this year's Randox Grand National.
The Nigel Twiston-Davies-trained Broadway Boy was leading the field on the second circuit before falling at Valentine's. He was attended to on the track, but walked on to a horse ambulance before being taken off in it. Broadway Boy's jockey Tom Bellamy was taken to nearby Aintree University Hospital for further observations after the fall.
Celebre D'Allen, who was pulled up under Micheal Nolan, was also attended to on the track and walked on to a horse ambulance, and is expected to remain at Aintree overnight.
However, Nolan was banned for ten days for continuing to race when the horse "appeared to have no more to give and was clearly losing ground after the second-last fence", according to the BHA stewards report.
A Jockey Club spokesperson said: "Broadway Boy walked on to the horse ambulance and will return to the stables for further assessment. Celebre D'Allen walked on to the horse ambulance and has gone back to the stables for further assessment.
"Tom Bellamy has been taken to Aintree University Hospital for further assessment. All the other jockeys walked back into the weighing room."
Stumptown was sent off at 10-1, but was pulled up on the second circuit by Keith Donoghue. His trainer Gavin Cromwell said he was unsuited by the drying good to soft ground, but the vets examined him after the race and found he was lame on his right-hind leg and had also sustained a wound to it too.
Bravemansgame, who finished 15th, kicked a plastic rail in the chute before the race
https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/grand-national-festival/grand-national-runners-broadway-boy-and-celebre-dallen-undergoing-assessment-at-aintree-aP3f23k9jDV4/
The Nigel Twiston-Davies-trained Broadway Boy was leading the field on the second circuit before falling at Valentine's. He was attended to on the track, but walked on to a horse ambulance before being taken off in it. Broadway Boy's jockey Tom Bellamy was taken to nearby Aintree University Hospital for further observations after the fall.
Celebre D'Allen, who was pulled up under Micheal Nolan, was also attended to on the track and walked on to a horse ambulance, and is expected to remain at Aintree overnight.
However, Nolan was banned for ten days for continuing to race when the horse "appeared to have no more to give and was clearly losing ground after the second-last fence", according to the BHA stewards report.
A Jockey Club spokesperson said: "Broadway Boy walked on to the horse ambulance and will return to the stables for further assessment. Celebre D'Allen walked on to the horse ambulance and has gone back to the stables for further assessment.
"Tom Bellamy has been taken to Aintree University Hospital for further assessment. All the other jockeys walked back into the weighing room."
Stumptown was sent off at 10-1, but was pulled up on the second circuit by Keith Donoghue. His trainer Gavin Cromwell said he was unsuited by the drying good to soft ground, but the vets examined him after the race and found he was lame on his right-hind leg and had also sustained a wound to it too.
Bravemansgame, who finished 15th, kicked a plastic rail in the chute before the race
https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/grand-national-festival/grand-national-runners-broadway-boy-and-celebre-dallen-undergoing-assessment-at-aintree-aP3f23k9jDV4/
Go to Egypt then you will see what real horse cruelty is, getting killed in a horse race would be a kindness compared to what the poor sods over there go through before being discarded to the rubbish tips.
In this namby pamby, risk assessed, cotton wool wrapped world that we have created, it's refreshing to see something that entails risk. That to me, is the appeal of equestrian sports. We are a horsey family and all know the risk go ourselves and our beloved, beautifully treated horses. Don't like it? Go and sit in your little safe space, but leave our sports alone. A bad injury or fatality means nothing to the antis and is forgotten after a day or two, but is heartbreaking for connections. We never forget them or the sad sight of an empty box, an uneaten haynet.
Stark 06 Apr 25 09:08
In this namby pamby, risk assessed, cotton wool wrapped world that we have created, it's refreshing to see something that entails risk. That to me, is the appeal of equestrian sports. We are a horsey family and all know the risk go ourselves and our beloved, beautifully treated horses. Don't like it? Go and sit in your little safe space, but leave our sports alone. A bad injury or fatality means nothing to the antis and is forgotten after a day or two, but is heartbreaking for connections. We never forget them or the sad sight of an empty box, an uneaten haynet.
Hypocrisy is a terrible thing at times,unfortunately everyone on planet earth is a hypocrite….especially in punting world.
In this namby pamby, risk assessed, cotton wool wrapped world that we have created, it's refreshing to see something that entails risk. That to me, is the appeal of equestrian sports. We are a horsey family and all know the risk go ourselves and our beloved, beautifully treated horses. Don't like it? Go and sit in your little safe space, but leave our sports alone. A bad injury or fatality means nothing to the antis and is forgotten after a day or two, but is heartbreaking for connections. We never forget them or the sad sight of an empty box, an uneaten haynet.
Hypocrisy is a terrible thing at times,unfortunately everyone on planet earth is a hypocrite….especially in punting world.
Most horses are commodities tbf…
Apart from the chosen for making fortunes in the breeding shed…or the chosen at Martinstown…..
Apart from the chosen for making fortunes in the breeding shed…or the chosen at Martinstown…..
Broadway Boy is heading back to Nigel Twiston-Davies's yard after he was kept at Aintree for assessment overnight following his fall in the Randox Grand National.
The seven-year-old was leading on the second circuit before he fell at Valentine's. After being treated on the course, he was able to walk back on to the horse ambulance and head back to the stables.
Having stayed at the track for further observations, he is heading home to Twiston-Davies's Gloucestershire base.
His son and assistant trainer, Willy, posted on X: "Thank you for all the lovely messages, more importantly thanks to all the vets at Aintree. Broadway Boy is getting loaded on to the horse ambulance and coming home. Such a special horse to all of us at Grange Hill Farm."
https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/grand-national-festival/grand-national-runners-broadway-boy-and-celebre-dallen-undergoing-assessment-at-aintree-aP3f23k9jDV4/
The seven-year-old was leading on the second circuit before he fell at Valentine's. After being treated on the course, he was able to walk back on to the horse ambulance and head back to the stables.
Having stayed at the track for further observations, he is heading home to Twiston-Davies's Gloucestershire base.
His son and assistant trainer, Willy, posted on X: "Thank you for all the lovely messages, more importantly thanks to all the vets at Aintree. Broadway Boy is getting loaded on to the horse ambulance and coming home. Such a special horse to all of us at Grange Hill Farm."
https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/grand-national-festival/grand-national-runners-broadway-boy-and-celebre-dallen-undergoing-assessment-at-aintree-aP3f23k9jDV4/
Well done Will….
Will we see this as the new norm now or just an annual occurrence…..?
Will we see this as the new norm now or just an annual occurrence…..?
Made my weekend to know that he is well enough to travel home. Good to hear about the well-being of the other horses. But the Broadway Boy fall looked horrific and made me feel sick. It looked so bad, as if he had been shot as he lay lifeless on the ground. I turned the tv off. I didn’t want to hear of his inevitable fate. So the news is fantastic - great praise must go to the vets and the groom. Forget Mullins these are heroes of Aintree 2025.
I think it pretty much every year - horse racing does such a great job of promoting itself, by massively advertising the exact races that cause the anti-racing, and their sympathisers, groups to hate racing.
Probably too late to change it because it's all 'tradition' and 'history' in racing bubbles and circles, and oddly in the wider public still - the 'we only watch the grand national' types who oddly still exist.
If only racing could massively advertise all the great experiences many horse have in their lives, enjoying their racing lifetimes richly, and how those around them love all the horses so much and care for them.
Probably too late to change it because it's all 'tradition' and 'history' in racing bubbles and circles, and oddly in the wider public still - the 'we only watch the grand national' types who oddly still exist.
If only racing could massively advertise all the great experiences many horse have in their lives, enjoying their racing lifetimes richly, and how those around them love all the horses so much and care for them.
If seeing horses getting injured makes you feel sick, why would you deliberately opt to watch horse racing? One thing is for certain, if you watch horse racing then you will see horses getting injured, and potentially ending up dead.
Horse racing culture is primarily a countryside/rural pursuit, there is very little sympathy for the death of animals when they see and contribute to it every day of the week.
Cider, I'd say it's part of that odd British trait to follow traditions - like I say the 'we just watch when it's the national' types. The problem is that these days those types will also be easily influenced by newer views on animal 'cruelty' etc, and many of those groups will end up refusing to watch/campaigning against it.
I wonder what viewing figures are like. Then again, many antis will actually watch, just to moan about it!
I wonder what viewing figures are like. Then again, many antis will actually watch, just to moan about it!
Reality and context. Animals dying is part and parcel of rural life. Doesn't mean you want it, doesn't mean you don't try to mitigate it. But ultimately, it's inevitable. And human life is far more important than equine.
It's so immature (imo) to choose to do something and then be physically ill when the inevitable happens. Do people tune into boxing on purpose, and then feel sick when a boxer suffers a deep cut or gets knocked out?
the point isn't been hypocrites etc,we all no the possible outcomes and carry-on betting,its the original reply mocking those who don't want to see deaths/injuries and don't bet on horses,as for risk taking in life,where's the risk in sat in front of the TV with a warm can of skol watching a horse take the risks for you, theres plenty of mountains out there to climb,bridges to jump off, cliffs to dive off,no ones stopping you
Apr 5, 2025 -- 6:02PM, GEORGE.B wrote:
"Animal Aid" statement...https://x.com/AnimalAid/status/1908563494372307371
I’m sure they won’t be splashing the seemingly positive outcome for Broadway Boy and Celebre D’Allen across their X page as it doesn’t suit their narrative.
Problem is also us lot exist in our own little 'bubble' of supporting horse racing and gambling activity.
To many others we are just as alien in our views and activities. Most people wouldn't understand simple words like form guide, let alone grasp the day to day reality of racing and gambling lives.
I personally think only a full scale media change can save racing (at least jumps) - changing the way big events get covered, to show the wider picture of racing lives (centrally the horses and care) for mass media coverage.
To many others we are just as alien in our views and activities. Most people wouldn't understand simple words like form guide, let alone grasp the day to day reality of racing and gambling lives.
I personally think only a full scale media change can save racing (at least jumps) - changing the way big events get covered, to show the wider picture of racing lives (centrally the horses and care) for mass media coverage.
starting with Elliot/shark/ maybe ,then spend all day yesterday lauding them for their love of horses,people would rightly think your taking them for fools
I wouldn't defend some trainer behaviours for sure. In cases that are clearly poor treatment, they should be rightly punished.
Punters feel sad….then “what price is number 4 in the next”…..
All tarred with the same brush tbh….
All tarred with the same brush tbh….
Cider, why would you deliberately opt to participate in a”forum’ if you are going to disparage someone else’s view with such disdain. It could possibly reveal a massive ego. It’s perhaps not your fault. Probably generational inheritance. Break the cycle…be your own man
Take the dog for a walk in the glorious countryside…probably not got one? Ok, buy the Mrs some flowers….actually I’m going 2-5 you are single? Anyway enjoy your day.
You've skipped the question and opted for a personal attack instead. Some things don't change. Nothing wrong with the question, might have hit a bruise though.
Sounds like you have no real clue about feelings when horses are injured or killed Cider. I remember vividly being upset during the 1979 GN having witnessed Jonjo crying when pulling the saddle off Alverton, more so than collecting on Rubstic. There is no hypocrisy in having feelings and betting on the events, I would have no respect for anyone that had no respect or feelings for any animal which your posts suggest is your view.
More recently on one of Foyles threads I had a 20/1 winner which I stated would rather I had lost than have the fav break a leg during the race!!
More recently on one of Foyles threads I had a 20/1 winner which I stated would rather I had lost than have the fav break a leg during the race!!
Genuinely one of the worst days of my life was when I heard Best Mate was killed. You're conflating things, though. I'm assuming this poster had no emotional attachment to this particular horse, just the site of a horse falling and looking in peril made them distressed. So why would they make themselves vulnerable to feeling that way on purpose. I don't generally choose to do things recreationally that are going to make me feel worse.
cider, like I said, I don't think many of the mass of viewers even really know why they watch the national - it's just a habit or tradition for many I'm sure.
Then there will be the antis, who actually watch it in order to then complain about it.
Then there will be the antis, who actually watch it in order to then complain about it.
I do think there's a valid discussion point about hypocrisy and our own views though.
I've had debates on here in the past about whether we are 'heartless' in debating races, wins, losses, betting, while horses may be in some varying danger themselves in races.
I personally feel there can be a balance between having this sport and still caring for the animals - but it is not a simple balance that is for sure.
I've had debates on here in the past about whether we are 'heartless' in debating races, wins, losses, betting, while horses may be in some varying danger themselves in races.
I personally feel there can be a balance between having this sport and still caring for the animals - but it is not a simple balance that is for sure.
Cider made you the policeman of what people can watch? You seem to have glossed over my questions as well. You know everything Cider, a closed mind therefore the only reason you are on this forum is to dig people out. Very sad.
You are right though I could have been less personal, I apologise. Take it easy.
You are right though I could have been less personal, I apologise. Take it easy.
we keep getting told about connections loving horses /horse pampered etc but as pointed out yesterday at the top of the game people like pumpkin,running horse yesterday they shouldn't have HITMAN etc,even cobbden said maybe we shouldn't have run them all on that ground, williamsd running ROYAL PAGAIL on that ground wadx a disgrace,we've seen it countless times over the yrs
synchronised running in Irish nat after its run at chelt
strong promise wasd it yrs ago beaten to death to get placed in gold cup ,never went a yd again
cant remember its name but pumpkin ran one in punch gold cup few yrs back and you couldn't pick a more unsuitable race the horse,pulled up, my fav horse ahoy senor sent out to batter its way around fences totally unsuitable for it yr aftert yr etc,etc
synchronised running in Irish nat after its run at chelt
strong promise wasd it yrs ago beaten to death to get placed in gold cup ,never went a yd again
cant remember its name but pumpkin ran one in punch gold cup few yrs back and you couldn't pick a more unsuitable race the horse,pulled up, my fav horse ahoy senor sent out to batter its way around fences totally unsuitable for it yr aftert yr etc,etc
The horses are nothing more than a 1000lb worth of meat that earn them a living. If the death of horses in racing isn’t a problem why do the cameras deliberately angle away during races from animals lying stricken on the ground?
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