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https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/explosion-in-black-market-gambling-as-unregulated-betting-site-traffic-surges-522-per-cent-a3kzR8Q4DUcr/
Betting with crooks; what could possibly go wrong? |
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Head of research for the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities' (IFHA) council on anti-illegal betting and related crime
did James make that up himself ?? |
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james's parent invite Barbara and Quentin round for Sunday lunch.
yes, James is doing awfully well at the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities' (IFHA) council on anti-illegal betting and related crime. He's made it to Head of Research. |
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Perhaps now would be a good time for a concerted effort writing to MPs, DCMS, and Gambling Commission, making reference to the above research, suggesting that UK licenced bookmakers should be obliged to lay bets as part of their licence conditions, as refusal to take bets is a major contributory factor to going elsewhere. And if you have to go elsewhere for your horseracing bets you will also give them your custom for other bets.
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Yet this gimp, who is completely out of his depth and in no way qualified to hold this position in the first place is still in the Job. Why?
https://www.racingpost.com/news/gambling-review/gambling-commission-chief-andrew-rhodes-claims-risk-of-gambling-black-market-is-overstated-aKLNF7G3lcbI/ |
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1.5m Brits are spending up to £4.3bn on the gambling black market.
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surely these bookies are laying an exchange price -30%
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Assuming the research is true (associated research has a tendency to inflate their findings), but can this be blamed solely on Accountability Check (AC)? This has been happening over the past few years due to bet restrictions and closing of recreational accounts by bookies.
Appoint qualified administrators and monitors for AC in order AC is prudently and correctly carried out - not overzealously by bookies - to bait the Gambling Commission. And, more importantly and urgently separate fobt ie casino games and slots, from horseracing betting altogether. Fobt and horseracing are two totally different betting products. The former is gaming and pure chance - no skill involved; the latter is skill and experience gathered from research over a period of time. And, ignore the professional disingenuity, musing and inaccurate codswallop from the RACING POST. They are the conduit and peddlers of the "crack cocaine" of gambling!! |
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They take a decent bet. And are quick to pay out. Do you research from friends and family for the ones that have good customer feedback.
Pay no Attention from the Racing Post.They are the ones who have served people the slots and free spins, and shouldnt be trusted with any storyline. |
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We should be able to make educated choices...Regulation does give some protections, but the UK has gone mad on gambling regulation(s) (bar the lottery) where you can spend what you like.
I dont need a nanny to make decisions for me... Its ridicilous that a company can decide to restrict how much money i can spend with them having been forced to by government...Its barmy. Almost a prohibition.... |
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The irony!
Regarding sports betting, for 20 odd years the licensed and supposedly regulated (UK) bookmakers have behaved however they like (refusing bets, restricting accounts, closing accounts and even welching on winning bets) - as if they were not licensed or regulated at all. In those same 20 years the unlicensed and unregulated bookmakers have behaved as though they were regulated! They just take bets, any bets, from anybody (adjusting their prices as necessary) and pay out. So you can blame the regulator for the very recent growth in so-called "Black Market" activity because now they are finally regulating it turns out they are completely hopeless at it and only focussed on one aspect of it - but the previous 20 odd years where they didn't bother to enforce the 2005 Act? All of that so-called growth in the "Black Market" is 100% due to the behaviour of UK bookmakers refusing to be behave like bookmakers. As regards gaming (casino and slots) the UK bookmakers have a fair point. Those naughty "Black Market" operators are now behaving just like UK bookmakers have behaved for the past 20 years (before the GC recently stepped in). They are targeting the vulnerable, grooming addicts via marketing, advertising and social media, not bothering with promoting safer gambling. It's like the UK bookmakers have had their playbook stolen! In a nutshell UK bookmakers are complaining that those naughty "Black Market" operators are behaving just like they have behaved themselves for the past 20 years! ![]() ![]() The only difference is that the Asian bookmakers are still actually bookmakers as well - so you can still get a sports bet on without being restricted or having your account closed. |
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It must be really frustrating for the UK bookmakers - investing all of their time, guile and cunning into identifying, profiling and grooming addicts - then they only get a 20 year run at rinsing them, before somebody else comes along and steals their ill gotten gains.
"Please Miss, I know I've stolen the lunch money and kicked the absolute sh1t out of every weakling in the playground for the past 20 years - but now you've finally realised and stopped me - that new Asian kid is doing it" |
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take a look at the list of referral bookies on the RP site, there's at least 20 I wouldn't touch with a bargepole.
https://www.racingpost.com/free-bets/ |
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You'd be fine with all of those - as long as you just deposit and lose.
Obviously if you wanted to make a withdrawal - you would experience massive issues! ![]() |
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how about this little lot from BetGoodwin...
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The Management 13 Feb 25 13:30
You'd be fine with all of those - as long as you just deposit and lose. Obviously if you wanted to make a withdrawal - you would experience massive issues! Laugh What are you doing laughing ? Ffs |
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I'm saying it's fking hilarious that a man masquerading as the Racing Post's Industry Editor is quite happy for his employer to advertise and endorse every cowboy outfit in the UK - knowing full well that they only exist to fleece losers and addicts - and that if you try to withdraw (even just your initial deposit plus a tenner) - they will pretend they think that you are a money-launderer or a terrorist and put you through hell. They will also pretend that the GC are making them do it!
![]() I'm also laughing because he's saying (according to a survey conducted by people with a very vested interest) that one in ten (10%) of respondents have considered using a "Black Market" bookmaker - and he is worried about the impact on the levy and therefore on Racing. Meanwhile a survey conducted by the very publication that employs him, found that 1 in 3 (33%) of respondents had encountered betting restrictions or account closures. Obviously this also has a worrying impact on the levy and therefore on Racing. I'm laughing because i've lost count of the number of articles he has now written about the former (The evil "Black Market") - but a man that has lost four fingers, could count on one hand, the number of articles he has written about the latter (account restrictions and account closures). |
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Black market offer a better service actually take a bet like bookmakers used to do.
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A more cynical observer than me might think that he doesn't give a toss about the levy or horse racing - but it does worry him that the poor old UK bookies are missing out on a few quid because the Asians are poaching their slots/casino addicts from them.
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Can anyone give me details of these supposed black market or unlicensed bookmakers that the International Federation of Horseracing Authorities' (IFHA) claims must exist? Can the IFHA, which I thought was intended to promote standards within horse racing (not betting), explain how it can state unequivocally the number of "visits" to the "black" operators' sites ? The figure grew by 522% during a 3 year period?! If these figures are known so accurately the sites can't be very "black". This smacks of nothing but a con to persuade punters to use bookies who contribute to horeracing's finances. These contributions include especially the sponsored races. Ever dodgy new (supposed) legal bookmaker on being set up immediately sponsors some races in an attempt to prove their credibility when in essence they are thieves who do everything they can to prevent winning account holders from withdrawing winnings. For the benefit of these organisations (now dozens of them), there is no legislation which requires bookmakers to go the the "identity checks" including income tax returns, proof of income etc. It's all part of the con.
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No, you are not cynical, Management, You just are too difficult to con. Definition of a cynic? A person who is never disappointed. As a founder member of the UOC (Universal Order of Cynics), I am delighted to welcome you to our (free) membership.
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Anyone even thinking of venturing into the dirt must be simple……
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bookies and their bought-and-paid-for MPs have lied about black market bookies for so long, they've convinced themselves they exist under every bed in the land.
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well said black market bookies my bo....ks theres a few but they been there years 3p
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Could one liken The Racing Post and the bookies as (Hamas), and The Gambling Commission as (Israelis) in this conflict of horseracing betting and Accountability Check? The former is a terrorist group, the latter a legit sovereign state.
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Forgive me for being critical, but imo Mr Porteous "dunno hay from a bull's foot", or is making a decent fist of not knowing. I hope this is unhelpful.
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Allow pubs to have tote terminals.
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Nebs, would you not get better value on your phone in the pub? If you want a bet on the tote or with a bookie use your phone without giving the pub landlord a few % commission.
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It must be really frustrating for the UK bookmakers - investing all of their time, guile and cunning into identifying, profiling and grooming addicts - then they only get a 20 year run at rinsing them, before somebody else comes along and steals their ill gotten gains.
Bingo! |
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2025 and beyond is a time to stay away from these casino nutjobs guys.
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Trident,The Racing Post can't see that for some reason.
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Sorry to bang on! but.......
The real story is not the black-market bookies/casinos/crypto that the racing post publish. The real issue is the big corporations have woken up to the fact that there are new players in town and the grift is coming to an end. |
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Imagine opening a link on spam mail……
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As forcast by H D many, many moons ago !
I was about when betting tax was 9/10% in the 70s & 80s, illegal gambling was rife ! Listen, men will always want to bet.... The Gambling Commission are destroying how racing will be financed... KYC is totally riduculous..... the G C are only interested in ''money laundering''.... if this current state of affairs continues... bye bye British Horse Racing ! ![]() |
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I've received more spam texts from dodgy casino operators lately
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CLYDEBANK2914 Feb 25 12:18Joined: 10 Jan 02 | Topic/replies: 13,869 | Blogger: CLYDEBANK29's blog
I've received more spam texts from dodgy casino operators lately Name and shame - which ones was it - Korals, Hills or Skybet? ![]() |
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