What is the dodgest race you have ever seen?

name the race then.

Rubble or Curley

JOCKEY Michael Purcell was suspended for 50 days and fined €2,000 after a contentious riding display in Cork yesterday.

Purcell was a central figure in a sensational out come to division one of the bumper where trainer Charles Byrnes saddled the first two home. The race was won by Byrnes' Alpha Royale (7/1) under a strong ride from Martin Ferris but that was completely overshadowed by the ride from Purcell on the second placed Laetitia, which was unfancied at 14/1.

Purcell sat motionless on Laetitia for much of the home straight and although the rider's second crack of the whip inside the final furlong did connect, the rider appeared to do insufficient to help his mount close home, allowing Alpha Royale to win by a length.

As the runners crossed the line, boos were audible from punters while the resultant stewards' enquiry found both trainer Byrnes and jockey Purcell in breach of Rule 212, deeming that both "did not take all reasonable and permissible steps to attain the best possible placing."

honourable mention for Steven Gagan jumping off Kickahead at Musselburgh ....


forum experts - "nobody would be that stupid"

umm, yeah.  they would.

Cant remember name of but Paul eddery rode a horse for Bryan smart years ago and it was the most blatant stoppage I have ever seen.

Mind if you watch Yankee racing you see very dodgy races many times a day

1996 for those who remember. Can't find it on youtube but it was part of the ITV7

SORBIE TOWER

Only a Listed but it was probably the best race on a quiet Saturday. The trainer had been a guest on The Morning Line and tipped it c 10/3.  Ladbrokes fielded against it.

https://www.racingpost.com/results/28/kempton/1996-05-25/202868

What the write up does not tell you is that it stumbled out of the stalls. The horse had won its last three races. Richard Hughes rode it in its next two, the St James Palace and the Sussex Stakes, to finish 3rd and 4th, but Sorbie Tower never won again and cut little ice as a sire.

Declan Murphys comeback ride at Chepstow in 95 after being injured. Never seen anything like it with all the jocks giving him a freebie. Then again, it was said to have been organized by The Milkman...

cant. remember the horse but mark birch was riding a fav for sally hall at Ripon and yard expected it to hose up and after it was beaten was told birch would never get a ride for the yard ever again

Air shot Dean……and countless others…..all on pink….the invention of the cret!n imo…..

Welcome to hell….

the sally hall horse was one of guy reeds

Geraghty on Noble Mission at Limerick. That was definitely not run on merit.

imbecile123
Noble Mission was never ridden by Geraghty and never ran at Limerick.

Fallon on Ballinger Ridge

Yep ballinger. And Byrne horses

richard pitman on crisp. went off far too quick.

You could be on here twenty years and still be mentioning dirt tbh

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https://www.racingpost.com/results/90/wincanton/2023-03-27/836567

The winner:

Ithaka
(IRE)
9yo:(19May16 b g)
Trainer:Ryan Potter (Last 14 days: 1-6, 17%)
Owner:K P Marsh Plastering & Interiors Ltd
National Infrastructure Solutions until 29 Nov 2024
R D Potter until 13 Mar 2023
Ronan M P McNally until 25 Nov 2022

The favourite in this race received the form book comment jockey looked down to see if something was amiss before 2 out, pulled up just after 2 out

The second favourite (Noble Savage) walked around the parade ring with green foam spewing from its mouth, and finished last, beaten 34 lengths.

The winner, Ithaka, had never previously finished closer than sixth, in nine attempts. It had been beaten 48 lengths the time before, five weeks earlier at Carlisle, at 125/1. Dropped 4 lb, it started 11/2 here.

that chaser   grahem Bradley was never going to win on in a 3 horse race ,was it at southwell

4/7 man mood….

The infamous Eastern Warrior in Belgium
Most will have seen it, but it is worth a minute or two if you haven't

https://youtu.be/h_acLrRkJ8U?si=CD8uaww62UlK3HoL 

White colours with red sleeves.

Owner, trainer and jockey Sacha Stappaerts rightly received a long ban

The funny thing is she puts in more of shift stopping it, than most jockeys do, riding properly, in a normal race.

MAN MOOD that's the fella and did Dermott brown strangle browns gazette at start of ch hurdle ?

Rafferty's Rules, Top Cees and Ballinger Ridge all Felon!!

Brown disappeared for an age…..

the belgian one always makes me laugh

Gorytus…..Einstein Cagliari couldn’t solve that one tbh…..

The hunter chase in Ireland on Sunday, the ride on the Christie 2nd fav to keep it out the 3 looking at the screen on run in. Still furious now.

Flockton Grey described by his jockey, "as the best 2 year old" he'd ridden, having won by 20 lengths; except it wasn't a 2 year old but a 3 year old
Dodgy horse and an even dodgier owner.

Ballinger Ridge.

The answer to original post will be an occurence where there is a conspiracy among all jockeys to let someone win, those races where a leader takes an extravagant lead and never looks like being caught, we've had quite a few.  Some of them will be straight and unintentional but I say

B ollocks and Double B ollocks to the notion they are all straight.

Called Good Hand if memory serves Leif? Was in a Laddies shop that day.

duffy Joined: 28 Mar 03
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Fallon on Ballinger Ridge


bollox. if you are riding to lose thats the last thing you would do

The most blatant I have been personally involved in started in the Owners/Trainers bar at Yarmouth. Jimmy Quinn rode a mare for John Best up the backside of as many horses as he could. I had backed her and was going mad, told my mate I was going to the Stewards room, suddenly got a tug on my arm and John Best more or less pleaded with me to hang fire.

He said " Back her tomorrow night at Sandown and you will be alright" To my shame I did as he said and she dotted up under an unknown 7lb claimer @ 4/1.

Remember Ice Saint at Fontwell in 2004.

Jockey Sean Fox was the jockey in question and the horse drifted alarmingly with the bookmakers on course and also on the exchanges.

In the inquiry following the race the  stewards judged that the jockey had STEPPED OFF HIS HORSE and under rule 157 he received a ban of just 21 days.

Jock Mc Crakken was correct in telling everyone what fence the jockey would jump off!

on course rumours suggested 'the milkman' was involved.

This race came just 7 days from the Fallon race at Lingfield where he was found guilty of throwing away a race he should have won.

Mitolo, you must not have seen the Ballinger Ridge race or the subsequent fallout?

i laid the winner

Big?

Ballinger ridge was a pig of a horse who had his own ideas about the game.

155k and was looking for more

He did when Felon pulled him cloone, he was intent on winning!!

How many races did Ballinger ridge win?

1 but what has that to do with being pulled in another he would have won easily?

Balding lost his marbles when he continued to use the rodent imv….

I can give you a list of Chris Catlin rides on the AW that drifted like a barge and were slowly away(98% of the time, he perfected it). I alerted the BHB and not much later he 'retired.'

Balding knew what Ballinger ridge was like.

Shortage of envelopes in those days tbf…

cloone river 11 Feb 25 19:40 
Balding knew what Ballinger ridge was like.

He knew it should have won….

Give us the list Swifty?

Take your pick from the many tender rides Seamie Heffernan gave to Ballydoyle 2nd strings down through the years.

I couldn't be bothered Cag. Just search Catlin rides on the Racing Post at Southwell, 98% missed the break, incredibly unlucky jockey with the kickback like it was.

I was meaning the Fibresand kickback.

An endless list of rodents never to grace the turf again…..good riddance…

What about the ones he won on Monarch, when he obviously should not have?

Same old conspiracy sh!t with no evidence eh Swifty?

Catlin one of the most consistent during his main career and only his last 2 years saw a decline from the norm, pulled 6 from 7 rides in his last year Swifty?

Not into conspiracies, just deal with the facts, no doubt Catlin got word he'd been rumbled and took the workrider job at Godolphin.

He was consistent alright.

Give us the evidence then Swifty? In print or/and your part in his decision?

I can certainly reciprocate, done so here previously in terms of Oscar Urbina ( work rider with Godolphin) and Greg Chung for real events?

Betfair became a licence to print money for the journeymen jocks, a handful got caught, plenty didn't.

swiftynumpty; i can give you a list of chris catlin rides that drifted like a barge

toby; give us it

sn; couldnt be bothered. 98% missed the break


a remarkable ratio that you might suppose was backed up by stats?


and heres another brainbox;

formoftheace Joined: 17 Apr 12
Replies: 1737211 Feb 25 19:42 
cloone river 11 Feb 25 19:40
Balding knew what Ballinger ridge was like.

He knew it should have won…


what a genius race-reader baldy must be to have spotted that

mitolo, I had correspondence with the BHB, but thanks for your input, what number bottle are you on currently?

swifty getting a hard time, but not a jockey I have fond memories of either, and a quick delve into the archives to see how popular CC was back in the day, and fair to say he had quite a 'fan club' on here.

I only went back to 2010 and looked at a few pages.

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/23634678/mr-chris-catlin-7lb-claimer?post_id=432065254#432065254

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/24018465/eseej-1920-southwell---a-health-warning?post_id=432968093#432968093

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25532081/chris-catlin-on-veeb?post_id=460162757#460162757

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25532305/seriously-is-chris-catlin-carrying-an-injury?post_id=534493755#534493755

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25886385/chris-catlin-u-are-such-a-laughable-joke-cant-keep-a-horse-straight?post_id=466925693#466925693

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25860909/new-stopwatch?post_id=466424169#466424169

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/25838149/chris-catlin-2yos?post_id=465991337#465991337

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26291769/chris-catlinpossibly-the-worst-of-the-lot-but-he-avoids?post_id=474832933#474832933

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26221765/chris-catlin-and-mount-juliet?post_id=473438241#473438241

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26406981/chris-catlin?post_id=485422733#485422733

is that where the 98% came from? or did you make it up? losing an argument with toby is a rum do and possibly unprecedented

irrelevant. why do you ask? last time you got the ump you accused me of being a drug addict. bit sensitive aint we?


as you are desperate to know; 1. late start due to late night

Maybe they were all wrong?

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26436457/chris-catlin---useless?post_id=477697901#477697901

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/26665465/chris-catlinwhat-was-that?post_id=482253865#482253865

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/27478301/chris-catlin-give-up?post_id=493039941#493039941

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/27228637/chris-catlin-thought-that-was-1m-5f-i-think?post_id=488924993#488924993

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28056793/chris-catlin?post_id=503322481#503322481

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/27967149/chris-catlin?post_id=501565285#501565285

https://community.betfair.com/horse_racing/go/thread/view/94102/28905221/investigate-chris-catlin-bha?post_id=516182489#516182489

Same sources as swifty pulling out a story for the thread?

Provide evidence if you can, the conspiracy sh!t is not only boring but we could all create one if we were bored?

maybe they are ll right. or wrong. irrelevant. i dont look at any of em so dont know

i suspect you could do similar for a good number of jokeys. and its not evidence of anything other than forum-dwellers are malcontents in the main, always on the lookout out for a sinister motive

The facts are the BHB signed a MoU with Betfair, the so-called paper trails would help root out the cheats, then reality struck, they'd opened a can of worms and none of it was legally enforceable.

98% true

only the jockeys know the truth, unless they have their private phonecalls hacked when riding in India, the forum will never know.

what the forum knows aint worth knowing

you should give it up. its so obviously bent

I know plenty of it's bent. The whole UK handicap system ensures it. Betfair only cemented it.

Give up? No thanks, I make an OK living, but thanks for your advice.

Out of interest, anyone know who gave Eddie Ahern the nickname Betfair Eddie?

I don't know GEORGE.B

www.youtube.com/watch?v=-75NOtXc9xk

this always a funny watch, I got a life ban from the forum for calling out Ferdy Murphy (prior to this expose)

Osborne, all there on camera, years later , just carry on regardless!

at 21:17 in,  I nearly had a double take and thought I saw hulk's 108!

Top Cees

So chuffed when it didn’t get up in it’s next run when wanted

Tony Dobbin's farewell race (on Ballyvoge) was painful to watch, though slightly funny in being so ovious.

Somebody already mentioned Ice Saint which was blatant but I don't think anyone has mentioned Browns Gazette in the 1985 Champion Hurdle that was truly shocking.

The dregs of nature robbed the fodder without mercy….they knew the results before the horse/horses left the training yard.

Imagine the fodder standing round the parade ring and the dregs of nature looking down knowing they didn’t stand a chance in hell….

There was a race at lingfield in the early to mid nineties where bola advised its members not to pay out I can’t remember the name of the horse,

There are so many jimnast it would cook the napper trying to remember…..

not really sure why its a debate we no as a matter of fact , bradly,brown,culhane,ahern,carter,the flapping gypo,burke,milesfallon,etc etc, and I,m sure I've missed another half dozen youve got to be the soppiest punter around to think all of them AT IT were caught

The subject will always simmer away like an abcess…..the Risen who invented the pink is responsible in my humble opinion.

The stigma….

The brown envelope in the back seat years back kindled the simmering smell…..the risen fired up the flames imo….

Back From Dubai 11.55 Southwell carpet out to 12/1 “who knows it” ?

Classic example tbf…

Yea 4 extra furlongs too much dave

Would you have layed the big price with confidence fred ?

54 lengths between 8th and last. Ran over 7 fur and a mile all it's life. Then over mile a half today

That just another  excuse a trainer can use

Dozens more in the excuse book

3:25
Warwick
5 Nov 1996
Oliver Cromwell Handicap Chase Class D
(Class 3) (0-125, 5yo+) (2m4f110yds) 2m4½f OMS Good To Firm 17 fences
1st £4,086 2nd £1,116 3rd £538
Result
Analysis
My Ratings
Past Winners
POS.   
HORSE / SP
JOCKEY
TRAINER
AGE    WGT    OR    TS    RPR    MR   
1

Runner Jacket
3.
DrumstickI 5/4
Conor O'Dwyer
Kim Bailey
10    109    98    21    95    –   
ch g Henbit (USA)  - Salustrina  (Sallust)
Chased leader, blundered 2nd, led approaching 11th, left alone approaching 12th
PU

Runner Jacket
1.
Man Mood (FR) 4/7F
Graham Bradley
Charlie Brooks
5    120    118    –    –    –   
b g Brinkmanship I (USA)  - Miss Mood  (Bon Sang)
Led until approaching 11th, pulled up before 12th
2 ran Off time: 3:25:00 Winning time: 5m 16.30s (slow by 18.30s) Total SP: 109%
1st owner: Sarah Lady Allendale (DrumstickI)  1st breeder: Mrs W Hanson

DRUMSTICK was retired as a winner, which hardly seemed likely after he blundered the second and dropped off the pace set by Man Mood, who jumped soundly and seemed to be travelling perfectly well to halfway.But Man Mood^s stride began to shorten on the run to the 11th, and having been passed by Drumstick, the Brooks horse was pulled up by Graham Bradley.Bradley reported: "He fell in a hole, started to choke and lost his action; he did the same thing at Leicester last season."