Galopin Des Champs Evens

Galopin Des Champs called 'the best in Ireland since Arkle' by Ruby Walsh ahead of Dublin Racing Festival

He is bidding for Irish Gold Cup (3.30) hat-trick and will look to double up at Cheltenham next month

yeah i think he will win both

Ruby was sceptical about GDC at the beginning of last season when GDC was beaten at Punchestown post winning his 1st Gold Cup at Cheltenham.

looks a cert on form and on paper but I've seen plenty of these so called certs beat may well win its got the best form but I'd be more inclined to find an bigger priced shot that will give a few cracks . it don't always go to script !

bigger priced shot each way^^^^

I'm thinking more along the line of a free roast chicken for tomorrow (with chips) if the return allows.

Bet365 are now also offering evens if you can get it.

The chicken is already on the plate

GDC was evens with Sky, max stake a tenner......

'sly' is a joker. A 3/5 touted as a 2/7, and boosted to 1/1. Max only 250p for me.

365 max £20

here we go

some horse

A very good horse. Does anyone think the commentator is bias?

1 of the modern day greats

That was absolutely joyous to watch.

Sensational

Feb 1, 2025 -- 3:39PM, impossible123 wrote:

A very good horse. Does anyone think the commentator is bias?

I think his call was fkin dreadful

great win

I know will never happen, but he could win a Grand National easily. Would stay 4 miles easily

even money was a steal

Fabulous horse. Best since Arkle and I have been watching the sport since 1955. Fact to File a good trial for the Ryanair. And GDC is 5lb better over 3.25 miles than a bare 3.

Feb 1, 2025 -- 3:40PM, in hell wrote:

I know will never happen, but he could win a Grand National easily. Would stay 4 miles easily

off 180 wtf

A very Good Orse

best since denman & kauto for sure

That was great to watch, huge cheers from the crowd. Strange that he just can't perform to that level at Punchestown, but will hose up in the Cheltenham Gold Cup again for sure.

He dangled the carrot turning in and then waved bye bye.

It didn't appear to be strongly run either which would have been to his detriment and it made no difference.

Feb 1, 2025 -- 3:42PM, Storm Alert wrote:

That was great to watch, huge cheers from the crowd. Strange that he just can't perform to that level at Punchestown, but will hose up in the Cheltenham Gold Cup again for sure.

before I looked I was expecting to see 2/5

Heartwarming stuff     

Wonderful horse

Best Gold Cup horse since Best Mate.

4/5 for gold cup on here

best mate and galopin  my two fav gold cup horses

Feb 1, 2025 -- 4:04PM, eric_morris wrote:

Best Gold Cup horse since Best Mate.

wtf

I know a lot of people don't rate Best Mate but he did win the GC 3 times and his second was a procession. I think that GDC would beat him plus Kauto Star and Denman but I would back him to beat any other Gold Cup winner of the last 20 years. Everyone criticised Hen for not running him much but it was his win in the King George that proved to be his hardest race and it broke my heart to see him walk home that day. He was never quite the same again.

Gold cup best horses,recent years
Denman
Kauto star
Best mate
Galophin
Al boom photo


In that order.

But it’s all about opinions.obviously mine is the right one,but I value your 2nd rate one.

kauto for me

I value your opinion Elsie.not everyone can be right,pmsl

lol cheers

The only reason to doubt that Galopin is the best this century at least is that you think that his opposition is the weakest for 20 years. He is much further ahead of his opponents than Kauto and Denman were.

Best Mate for me.

Sage??
Best Mate went on the win two Gold Cups after his King George win.

Best mate dodged all other races,brilliantly managed,but was it a great.
Would it have won 5 Betfair chases or 2 Hennessy off top weight.

Nobody knows.

It’s not about weight carrying its about speed and class

and stamina of course

Very few can carry 12 0 stone and win a hcp.but not many try once rated high enough

Best Mate was a brilliant jumper, he was in a poor era though, it's hard to compare GDC to Kauto without thinking about Kauto's back catalogue which would make it a no contest...but it would be a good race to watch over 3.2 f....not so good over 2 miles!!!!

Totally agree Duffy.

if, or maybe when , the 3 gold ups are done will GDC will have a staue at cheltenham ? i wonder in this age of a slew of french bred / named horses from one particular yard he still wont have the public  affection and respect that best mate, desert orchid ,  had . kauto , french bed and from a dominant stable at the time was different ; his record stands up to all over different distances . without sounding too churlish i wonder how many watching today knew about jodami or florida pearl ?

Widsor knot.

Just sat having a nice glass of baileys thinking i must be getting old sure it was thirty years since Jodami won had a great weekend in Dublin.
Went back the year after it was off with frost.
Hope you are well.
Ronnie.

Windsor.
2 things i will always remember the rails boards used to spin round.
Ronnie.

I'll see how I go on the first 3 days. Got few nice AP bets which, if they win, or 2 of them win, will sort me out for the week. If they don't, and I'm sitting there on Friday afternoon needing a win. I would have no regrets punting GDC at 4/6. He reminds me of Denman

Lydia ( age 50 ) " 2nd best horse in my life " ( after Kauto Star )   PMSL

So better than Desert Orchid Burrough Hill Lad  Denman  to name just three.

He's a joy to watch, and we're lucky to be able to do so.

"The only reason to doubt that Galopin is the best this century at least is that you think that his opposition is the weakest for 20 years".    It's a fecking good reason though.

I think dis haarse is better than Dessie, Burrough Hill Lad and Denman of course he is.

Dessie carried weight but failed multiple times in the blue riband races the Champion Chase and Gold Cup. He was outclassed off level weights often.

I think he is the best Gold Cup horse since Best Mate in fact he reminds me of him but is a much more solid muscular horse than Matey who cruised better and had immense class. Galopin has also and an engine that keeps going.

Opposition tends to average out there are rarely a couple of great horses on a year it doent mean the horse in question on his own isnt a great.

It’s not every year you can have a Kauto, Denman or Moscow, Azertyuip, Well Chief year

Galopin is a stronger horse than Best Mate and could carry weight imo.

I hope Galopin starts next winter at Haydock rather than Punchestown where his record is inferior. In fact he’s a stone worse going right handed.

saxon ... i would think there is little chance of haydock . why bottom him on awful ground over that trip when his targets are later in the season ? ...i would suggest ludlow . after all , a ludlow winner was 2nd in the irish champion hurdle today !

windsor knot, I reckon you’re pulling my chain!
Anyway the Haydock race is the only appropriate race going left handed before Christmas unless he turns up at Wetherby in late October (zilch chance) or Newbury late November in the Hennessy (haha)
Tom Dreaper would have probably run him in all 3.

It is the trip that matters at least as much as the course. He is only a good horse over 2.5 miles, a very good one over 3 miles and one of the very best we have ever seen over 3.2 miles in March.

better than Dessie!  Dessie won The Racing Post Chase Irish National and Victor Chandler (when it was a hcap) off 12st.  It gave 2 stone and a beating over 2 miles and 3m 4f.

I didn't say that. Dessie and Kauto were much more versatile but over 3.25 miles at Cheltenham I think GDP would beat them. His last furlong was as quick as a flat race according to one time expert so how much did he have in hand? Over 3.25 miles I think he could have won 30 lengths and more on Saturday.

Sure Dessie hated Cheltenham

I think Galopin is arguably the best Gold Cup winner for a number of years.  It's a funny race.  The race can change completely in the last 2 furlongs and been a fair few very average winners.

I remember Cool Dawn winning most.  In my last employment at a Patent firm, before I took up gambling, it was owned by the best friend of one of the partners.  THey travelled back on the train to London with The Gold Cup.  I think it had the lowest or 2nd lowest handicap mark in the entire field and I don't think it ever won another race.  I remember thinking.  How the fook did that win!

Similar to the feeling I had having ran a book on the GC in school, and laying Nortons Coin for £2 @66/1. At least I laid unders My Economics teacher had a bet with me on that race (not Nortons!), how times change. He used to watch racing with me in the Ladbrokes local to the school.

"I think dis haarse is better than Dessie, Burrough Hill Lad and Denman of course he is" .
timeform
191    Kauto Star, Mill House
187    Desert Orchid
186    Dunkirk
184    Burrough Hill Lad, Moscow Flyer, Long Run
183    Don Cossack, Master Oats

saxon farm ....daddy long legs , 1/7 f , ridden by patrick mullins . winner of the butty bach novice hurdle , ludlow 24/4/24. ...racing at ludlow on wednesday , come and see the future stars !...and taste the best hand pulled beer on any course in the uk ( probably ) .

There is no way Kauto Star is a better stayer than Galopin Des Champs

I’m not talking Dessie won 5 King Georges Kauto blah blah.

Galopin Des Champs and Best Mate had more class at the Gold Cup trip

And i dont care how much weight a horse can carry it’s 2025

Norton's Coin was available at 200/1 in places in the morning.  Classic aftertiming, but I do remember thinking there were worse ew shots and I had considered betting it.  But alas I never did.  Possibly I couldn't avail myself of the 200/1.

Kauto Star like Best Mate would not have been able to give masses of weight away it is down to a horses confirmation.

Class and speed is what counts.

We are talking Gold Cup trip anyway i am at least

conformation

Don't all great horses need to have one of the following attributes:
1, have a great adversary that they beat consistently
2, win good races over a range of trips
3, put in consistent weight carrying performances

GDC hasn't really any of these.

And if we're honest neither had Best Mate.

1. no
2. no
3. no

no these are not required to be "great horses"?
How else are you going to measure it?

If the horses don't race, and don't get tested, how else are you going to rate them?

You can be a great horse at one given distance

It doesnt matter if there isnt another great horse the year a great horse is in training. Arkle would have been a great horse even if those others at the time were poor

You dont have to carry weight to be a great horse that is just about a horses conformation. Stronger horses can concede weight than lighter framed horses it has nothing to do with greatness. Greatness is the qualities needed at a given trip and can be a combination of stamina and speed or just speed against contemporaries.

The Championship races are the acid test not handicaps

John Randall. "The modern jumps scene would be almost unrecognisable to a time-travelling racegoer from the 1960's who saw the two greatest steeplechasers of all time, stablemates Arkle and Flyingbolt. Some have questioned the validity of the Dreaper pair's sky-high ratings but the reason for them is simple: they were forced to demonstrate the full extent of their greatness by conceding up to three stone (42lbs) in handicaps to rivals who were of normal Gold Cup standard. Modern champions do not run in handicaps, and are therefore not tested to that extent".

I can't see what is going to test Galopin des Champs if he retains his form. L'Homme Presse is a decent horse but would not be sighted in most Gold Cups. Willie Mullins had the second and third on Saturday and I don't see either of those being able to test him over 3.25. That leaves Banbridge of the first 10 in the betting who has not previously been beaten by GDC. If he improves for going up to 3.25 he is a viable prospect but as they started him over 2 miles that is a big question. I agree about Arkle. He beat 2 previous Gold Cup winners out of sight. Those of us around at the time thought that Pas Seul was a good horse when he won the GC but he was way behind Arkle and Mill House.

I can't see the Denman chase producing a Gold Cup hopeful. Djelo is top rated but surely he won't even stay 3 miles which is why he is also in the Game Spirit!. A shadow of the race it used to be.

Banbridge is a very plausible contender, he's passed his first test stepping up in trip with flying colours and the french horse wasn't falling back into his lap, he had to do a bit of donkey work bridging that gap.

He'd be following in the hoofprints of A Plus Tard and Kicking King in having the class over shorter and being able to bring it to the longer distance, just imagine if he improves for the extra distance, won't lack for tenacity, he'd be very dangerous IMO.

Another is Sizing John. Next year perhaps for Bainbridge post Galopin Des Champs; Bainbridge could have a rehearsal in the King George at X'mas.

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He's 6/4 best price for Punchestown next week, and I think he'll win. The ground was against him at Cheltenham; the opposition is inferior too without Fact To File or Inothewayurthinkin. And, 6/4 is a great price. I think he ought to be 4/6, and no more.

Another with a great chance of repenting is Teahupoo. He was greatly inconvenienced by the Cheltenham ground too. I think the easier ground anticipated at Punchestown will play to his strength.

Constitution Hill will need to show up 1st of all. Then he'll need to jump the hurdles cleanly. With these two mega factors to overcome the safer bet would be State Man (7/4) here at the moment. The rest of the Gp1 card is for Mr Mullins's benefit.

Long may you hold a funded account implausible

Are we confident Mullins will run GDC ? Temperatures due to soar to 20-22 next week, ground will dry out.  6/4 looks a great price from Billy Hills, they are longer than others but have kept Spillanes on their side.

Off the bridle after 100 yard and had an extremely hard race.
Good luck with this venture