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13 Jan 25 12:09
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By:
jamee1
When: 13 Jan 25 13:09
A larger fee for me this week than it would have been under the previous structure. Sad
By:
Lazza7
When: 13 Jan 25 13:19
anyone had it taken out yet?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 13 Jan 25 13:25
Annoying that the 'My Profit and Loss' in Betting Activity is after tax but the Expert Fee is the Gross figure.

Also they should amend the buffer to display the amount you can win in the following week before moving up to 40% rate, (ie. 100,000 - current gross P/L figure + P/L from week 1, 52 weeks ago)
By:
jamee1
When: 13 Jan 25 14:06

Jan 13, 2025 -- 1:19PM, Lazza7 wrote:


anyone had it taken out yet?


No sign yet.

By:
Lazza7
When: 13 Jan 25 14:18
9.11 Expert Fees will be deducted from customer accounts weekly (after Monday noon) in relation to the previous week’s activity (Monday to Sunday)

looks like a change from a weds
By:
AccessViolation
When: 14 Jan 25 10:22
Where do you find the portal please?. I dont appear to have one
By:
Latalomne
When: 14 Jan 25 10:29
My Account > My Betfair Account > Betting Activity > Expert Fee
By:
AccessViolation
When: 14 Jan 25 10:41
Thanks Latalomne,
it doesn't seem to exist for me. Is anyone ese having issues?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 14 Jan 25 11:29
try clicking my profit and loss it takes you to a newish page from where you can scroll down to expert fee.
By:
AccessViolation
When: 14 Jan 25 12:29
I am unable to navigate to the portal for some reason. If I put the url directly into the browser it works though. For anyone else having this issue the url is
https://myaccount.betfair.com/activity/expert-fee
By:
Ghetto Joe
When: 14 Jan 25 15:14
Should be under the betting activity tab like other's have said AccessViolation. Surprised it readily available o be honest as they used to restrict the PC pages to the payers so people don't get shocked at the amount of comms they've paid, especially their lifetime comms
By:
GoBallistic
When: 14 Jan 25 16:06
There were also non-PC payers who could access the PC page (e.g. myself) although I don't know what the criteria were for having access to it.

I had the Expert Fee link appear yesterday but not today. I don't have anything appear in the Buffer box anyway which is all I'm really interested in. There should be a Buffer figure for everyone even if the last 12 months don't justify it (based on data since last PC payment or lifetime data for people who have never paid PC).
By:
Jack Bauer "24"
When: 14 Jan 25 17:24
The PC portal was only available to those who had gone under 50% total charges so even many long term winners would not have had access.
By:
Darlo Bantam
When: 14 Jan 25 18:08

Jan 14, 2025 -- 10:41AM, AccessViolation wrote:


Thanks Latalomne,it doesn't seem to exist for me. Is anyone ese having issues?


Oddly I can't see it either. Though it appears on the drop down list if I'm on "My Profit and Loss".

Not that I'm paying it any more.

By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 14 Jan 25 22:04
I qualified for it just.  I think if you made £10k one week, and that bought you up to a 52 week total of £25,000 then you would pay up to 19% (£1.9k) extra in Expert fees on the £10k you won that week.  But if you were to win £9,999 that week bringing your 52 week total to £24,999, you'd pay nothing.  They are extreme figures ofc, and I don't know if that is right at all, but in the rules and how the page is displayed that is how it looks.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 15 Jan 25 00:00
I'm reading it that the fee is set for the following week, regardless of how you do in that week. It states the date range and the fee rate.

Obviously if that win pushed you over a threshold the following week's rate would be higher.
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 15 Jan 25 04:00
Would be good to get clarity on it.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 15 Jan 25 10:57
The calculation is done from Monday to Sunday of every week. Thus, for next week's debit it is being calculated based on information from this week (which is still being calculated up until Sunday). Thus, once the week completes, if the threshold is exceeded, it is a possibility for the rate to change. Below you can find more information on this:

https://betting.betfair.com/betfair-announcements/exchange-news/the-betfair-exchange-expert-fee-faq-111224-6.html

That's what they told me which i still don't think clarifies it!
By:
Latalomne
When: 15 Jan 25 11:17
The link clearly states that they calculate the rate at the start of the week.

Surely if it was going to be applied to the "current" week, it would say they calculate the rate at the end of the week?
By:
Latalomne
When: 15 Jan 25 11:18
*it being a change based on your activity within the "current" week.
By:
CLYDEBANK29
When: 15 Jan 25 12:48
mine does say the fee rate "next week" will be 20%, so that does suggest if I was below £25k at the start of the week and won a bundle in the current week taking me over £25k it wouldn't apply to the bundle I won in the current week.
By:
11kv
When: 15 Jan 25 17:43
Tech error try again later
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Jan 25 20:42
old acc binned 10yr ago cos was going on 40%..logged on,gross p&l £2 fee rate 0%

Confused
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 20:52
Strange or convenient Shafter being as you frequently claimed to have only one account and never tell lies?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Jan 25 20:55
highlight 1 lie ive ever told...

in the meanwhile i'll post 3 crackers you have.
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 20:58
Do your worst Shafter because there are none, you on the other hand would struggle to find a single truth you ever posted. You must have been distracted when I predicted this exact scenario, you are a joke laughing stock the likes of which this Forum has never seen, makes Fraudy look believable!!
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Jan 25 21:13
highlight 1 lie ive ever told...

hurry up.
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:15
Start with lifetime portals if you wish, every one a lie!!
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:16
Demanding P & Ls then posting templates!!!  Where do you want me to stop?
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:17
Gas Bill? Photographs of real time accounts?
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Jan 25 21:19
In 2024, Tobymugaryliar from the Betfair forum was named the world's biggest liar after telling a story about how he was crowned King of the Betfair Forum.
This accolade was achieved after he claimed to have caught 2 x 250lb tuna,coincidentally the same 2 tuna an Italian gentleman caught and verified.
He also claimed to have laid City of Troy for £155,000 but still claimed a £11,000 prophet on the event.
Often claims he's +862 LSP despite retiring from the Div 2 comp when in 22nd plaice.
He also claims to have for sale a betting cistern for £600,000 with offers welcome.


4 lies that were oscar nominated...and wonders why he's the forum laughing stock.. #WAC
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:22
Thank you Shafter, you just proved what we all know, you are incapable of a truthful post!!!
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:24
I was going to mention all the bets you laid and lost and never paid but the world knows you are a con man and not a very good one TBH!!!
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:33
BTW did I mention that I am in the UK for a few weeks having arrived last Friday to bring our dog for treatment as a last resort? She was sadly put to sleep at 1632 hrs today with no options left. Fortunately it will not be a completely futile trip as the Shafter character was easily found via former colleagues.

So good news that I will finally meet this character who owes many and will collect as much as legally possible and permitted, I am sure you will rest easy to get that monster off your back Rico?

Consider it a service and you are welcome if it helps you move on?
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:37
To put your mind at rest btw Rico, relax because shafter thinks you reside in Wallsend!!
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Jan 25 21:42
no vets in Sardinia?
By:
CagliariG
When: 15 Jan 25 21:47
Such a comedian, then again you have no empathy for humans and would not do anything to help one let alone do the best for your pet.

Give it up Rico, leave for all time otherwise it will make you ill, ask Shafter if you doubt the wisdom, not hard to disabuse him of Wallsend btw!!!
By:
Angela Rebecchi
When: 15 Jan 25 21:50

Jan 15, 2025 -- 12:48PM, CLYDEBANK29 wrote:


mine does say the fee rate "next week" will be 20%, so that does suggest if I was below £25k at the start of the week and won a bundle in the current week taking me over £25k it wouldn't apply to the bundle I won in the current week.


I was under the impression that it depends if you've ever paid PC before. If you have, then you would pay this fee straight away (even if you were below the threshold starting the week), but if you haven't, then you get the week fee free. Anyone got clarity on this?

By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 15 Jan 25 22:21
just a supposition but surely if you started this week on +£1000 last 52 weeks and won £25,000 this week you cant be expected to pay 20% of the £25,000? it must have to be what your last 52 weeks profit is at the beginning of that week?
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