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Welcome to the club! A bit late nevertheless welcome. It's the same old story. The bookies are blaming the Gambling Commission. And, the Gambling Commission is denying there is Affordability Checks (AC) in operation.
Additionally, some bookies are using AC to restrict betting accounts as a consequence too. |
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he,s deluded if he thinks 10,000 + punters have had affordability checks foistered upon them
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His account was only reinstated AFTER the Racing Post got in touch... So what chance do normal folk have ?
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Used to bet on horses but gets the BHA job and starts betting only on other sports?
Gets the benefit of the doubt |
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yep you,d think the chair of the BHA wouldn't be a punter if he were a losing punter opens himself up to all sorts of possible corruption
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GC fine the bookies for not checking up on customers but then deny checks are in place so has Andrew Rhodes explained how a betting company can find out important highly personal financial information about a customer without asking the customer to provide it?
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does he ever watch racing at Newcastle during the winter 'all weather' season ?
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Is he saying that he is not allowed to bet on the exchange or is it Sportsbook?
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The above question relating to Horse Racing.
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deposit rather than bet presumably..which is a well known issue..but suddenly important (to him) as it's affected him...
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It seems that in this case it was his revealing that he had cancer that started the ball rolling against him, not defending the betting company but I'd imagine that to reveal that to a phone operator could be construed as a concerning thing to the operator and maybe lead the operator to question whether the customer is OK and raise the alarm?...maybe?
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you're giving a lot of benefit there , duffy to a company that when you have a disputed position on a long running market..say things like.."gosh, you have a lot of bets in this market.."
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neither i'd imagine if his bf acc was susp.
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if he's betting with the sportsbook..they don't need a reason..
if he's betting with the exchange in theory they would and would be more likely to be a deposit issue..but doesn't preclude intentional disruption/unfounded.. I'd have thought you (Rico) would fit the bill more than most.. |
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Probably the best thing that's happened to exchange is this incident.
Hopefully it kick starts some real thinking. Oh and get well soon Joe. |
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Probably the best thing that's happened to exchange is this incident.
Dont hold your breath........Black day for punters the day that Flutter acquired Betfair........its not in their interest for Betfair to florish.......BF is in terminal decline thay keep it on life support so they dont have to writedown what they paid for it.... i commend the article but hold little hope of any change |
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Bit rude they took the flutter name imo..
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ir is simply criminal.
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Joe Saumarez Smith is also said to be involved in the Rory Campbell story, as the investor who had tried to get his money out. Whether that is reliable or people mixing up two stories, who knows? Just in case, I'm going to back him in a treble to win Love Island.
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What gets me is that he gave over his sensitive information without batting an eye to them and then telling the general public what information he had passed over, its as if hes acting normally and nothing will happen to the said data, deary me surely he would have done some research and found out what really happens and how safe it actually is, would it not be more informal to the general public highlighting the hazards of doing so?
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It's time for an affordability check on the Gambling Commission.
Can we afford the cost of this lot? How much does it cost to run? What are the salaries of the members of the Commission? May we view their bank accounts to find out what they spend their money on? |
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Absolutely roggrain
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if he is involved in RORY scandal and didn't divulge it to betfair
he shouldn't be given an account,if he did divulge it he should never be allowed with a million miles of any bookmaker ![]() ![]() |
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if its the same bloke,the BHA that worried about losing revenue/black market bookies, their boss is betting in to unregulated Asian betting markets
you couldn't make this stuff up, resignation watch |
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It's time for an affordability check on the Gambling Commission.
Can we afford the cost of this lot? How much does it cost to run? What are the salaries of the members of the Commission? May we view their bank accounts to find out what they spend their money on? BEST post for a long time, well said Rograin. |
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Both my wife and my son have to deal with this outfit recently there incompetence and awkwardness is beyond belief.
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https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/contact-us/guide/make-a-freedom-of-information-request
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TC confirms the chair of the BHA and an ITV racing presenter are involved in betting large sums in the black market,unregulated bookmakers in Asia,whilst telling us 24/7 about their worries for the UK Levy and finances
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Former MP fears for betting after 'ridiculous' gambling checks following loss of just £30 over three months
Former MP Laurence Robertson has labelled overzealous bookmaker intervention as “ridiculous” after revealing his own challenge with restrictions following a loss of just £30 over the course of three months. Robertson, a Conservative MP for 27 years who served the constituency containing Cheltenham racecourse until losing his seat in the summer, frequently raised the issues of affordability checks and restrictions during his time in parliament, even taking the matter to the then prime minister Rishi Sunak in April. getting fookin absurd ![]() -£30 notes over 12 weeks![]() https://www.racingpost.com/news/gambling-review/former-mp-fears-for-betting-after-ridiculous-gambling-checks-following-loss-of-just-30-over-three-months-ay8J36s7NYPJ/ |
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The MP lost £30 over 3 months.
Thats why Bet365 tried to get rid of him by asking ridiculous questions and for affordability checks hoping he will go away. £30 for providing him with 3 months of 'entertainment'???. Which other business would put up with it? |
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A former GC member is the latest victim of AC. The irony was this was post winning £670. A moron (possibly on day-release) at 'billie' asked non-AC questions. That's what will happen if the bookies pay peanuts and get monkeys to determine and decide a punter's betting account and their fate.
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This is what worries me most about this nonsense. It is only a part of what is happening in all financial sectors where very inexperienced people are able to see our financial records and even question us on them before giving them to scammers. The FSA is responsible for some of it with their ridiculous decision to scrap all older information (address, telephone number, passport number etc.) on people and insist on updated ones. It is all slowing down transactions of every sort and they wonder why there is no growth! In terms of betting I hope it is just what you suggest. I am afraid that it could be a carefully targeted way coming from top management to remove punters who might have an inside line and actually make a profit. If that is the case it has backfired as the GC and bookmakers are called out repeatedly for overstepping their authority.
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There is no established code of conduct with regards to AC eg unqualified and inexperienced individuals are allowed or doing the rounds. I firmly believe every AC by bookies the details of which must be recorded and sent back to the individual concerned for future reference, and safe keeping.
A police officer accessing private and sensitive info of certain individuals must "sign" in with an identifiable id to ensure no abuse or inappropriate/unauthorised access to the info. Why can't something similar be forced-upon any bookie personnel for AC? This will definitely increase accountability, governance and utmost trust which is severely lacking upon the user, and their employer. And, any transgression outside the established code of conduct for AC will result in a mega fine, suspension from the betting/gaming industry and compensation for the AC victim. |
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It is essential that if this is set to continue that only a selected group of trained and monitored staff should have access to bank details of clients. And this should apply to banks and insurance companies as well. There are already massive leaks in most organisations. Every time I have used Amazon in the last year (about 4 times) I have had a spam E mail within 12 hours asking for financial information clearly aimed at theft. I have stopped using them. There is no such thing as online security imo.
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Years ago I went for a mortgage and mortgage guy wanted
to know all of my investments, and mrs's investments. He then spent half an hour trying to sell us this that and the other before giving us OK for mortgage. I reported him for miss selling, lol... He had said best ever time to invest in Ftse, I guess he got told to lie even harder next time. |
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I've had the same situation as Mr. Saumarez Smith. It was hell.
I've said this before I think, but I've been robbed at gunpoint and with a 6 inch kitchen knife twice (same person, same place). What I found most stressful were the Affordability Checks and Account Suspension. The robberies are over in 30 seconds, if you have any sense. The AC's go on and on. There is no sense and you are kept in the dark for ages. I'd liken to phoning up yiour bank and wanting to speak to a person. That's 30 minutes of listening to silly music and repeated messages. Affordability Checks are like expanding those 30 minutes to weeks. What makes it worse is that some self serving smug and condescending imbecile, thinks they know me better than I know myself. I'd rather visit the dentist 7 days a week. |
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"Because we've decided it might be for your own good, and because we don't know why it might be for your own good, we are covering our own @rse by keeping you in the dark"
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No genuine professional financial entity would conduct a due diligence similar to what the bookies are doing with AC - absolutely no one. Otherwise, 100% toast.
But, bookies are a law unto themselves; they rule the roost, and act as they please without impunity. Bookies pedal crack cocaine in fobt; they have no scruples. As such, their overzealousness in AC is not shocking to me. What is is their repeated lies about GC being the instigation of AC. The bookies are manipulating AC to suit their agenda eg to promote slots and gaming to maximise profits, and damage horseracing to reduce levy. |