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Looking if any interest

leif

12 Dec 24 16:39

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P.S. this will also be posted in the soccer section on BF community

like the Marie Celeste oer there.

Gaze will be interested if he can get a raise off his granny Gaze but that will be about it

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 16:44

Certainly very 'different' characters in the footy section, but yea lol

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swiftynifty When: 12 Dec 24 16:52

Hi. It's Deborah here. How many shares are available? What is the valuation of your business?

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:00

It doesn't have a value until i know how many would be interested.
As i have so much free time i enjoy working with bet angel to find winning scenarios etc and then test them out.

Literally, if someone wants to put £10 or £300 in, that's their choice, 1/3 of the final syndicates bank (+ running profit) will be used for each race, so in effect 1/3 of your overall investment will be bet each time.

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The Management When: 12 Dec 24 17:02

I have a machine that prints perfect copy £50 notes.

I am currently selling these machines at just £49.99 - to raise funds in order to buy more paper.

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:04

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:02PM, The Management wrote:

I have a machine that prints perfect copy £50 notes.I am currently selling these machines at just £49.99 - to raise funds in order to buy more paper.

I have a machine, well programme, that doubles your money each month, and is useable in ANY shops under the scanners. Think i'll stick to my machine lol

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swiftynifty When: 12 Dec 24 17:06

If , for example, I was to invest £5000 of my friend Theo's children's inheritance, how might that affect the price we would be getting on our bets?

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The Management When: 12 Dec 24 17:10

Of course. You have "a programme" that can turn £100 into £410,000.00 in 12 months - but you need funds!

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The Management When: 12 Dec 24 17:11

I don't think liquidity will be the biggest problem swifty!

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formoftheace When: 12 Dec 24 17:30

The sack still sniffing around….

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:34

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:20PM, swiftynifty wrote:

TM, it's the season of goodwill I'm giving GTFI the benefit of the doubt, maybe he's a genuine altruist. Obviously I'd need to see some real figures from the practice mode, before I send initial payment, if that's possible GTFI?

BA (Betangel) in practice mode doesnt tell me the returns. can only get that in 'betting' mode.
it gives me a big long list within betangel of each race and what it would have returned etc, but i cant copy them to paste them

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:36

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:06PM, swiftynifty wrote:

If , for example, I was to invest £5000 of my friend Theo's children's inheritance, how might that affect the price we would be getting on our bets?

Max i would accept in TOTAL syndi would be 3k.
Liquidity only really starts to be a problem over 1-2k

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The Management When: 12 Dec 24 17:37

formoftheace12 Dec 24 17:30Joined: 17 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 16,610 | Blogger: formoftheace's blog
The sack still sniffing around….

A bit harsh, he's offering you free money. If you invested £100 and he doubled it for you compounding every month, in about 17 years, you would be almost level on your lifetime losses!

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TameTheTiger When: 12 Dec 24 17:38

are the bets in-running lays or pre-off ?

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tanglefoot When: 12 Dec 24 17:38

Gaze is an easy mark.

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:41

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:38PM, TameTheTiger wrote:

are the bets in-running lays or pre-off ?

none pre-off, all the bets are worked out INPLAY after x seconds

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:43

12/12/2024 17:30:36: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended
12/12/2024 17:30:37: Guardian has detected that the market is in-play
12/12/2024 17:30:37: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: 1.01 test = 0
12/12/2024 17:30:37: Guardian has detected that the market is now unsuspended
12/12/2024 17:30:39: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Runners = 8 - 3 = 5
12/12/2024 17:31:07: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Bank = 40.05
12/12/2024 17:31:17: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Stake = 0.04
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: 1.01 test = 1
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Fav 1 = 1.02
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Fav 2 = 13.5
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Fav 3 = 55
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Fav 4 = 80 - 0.01 = 79.99
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: Test favs = 1
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H1 odds = 1.02
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H2 odds = 140
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H3 odds = 80
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H4 odds = 13.5
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H5 odds = 55
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H6 odds = 90
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H7 odds = 1000
12/12/2024 17:32:24: [G_Auto 1] : Store Value (Shared) for market: H8 odds = 1000
12/12/2024 17:32:25: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.04 Lay bet placed on Rosso Levanto at 1000. Fully matched at 890. Ref: 371243282165
12/12/2024 17:32:25: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.04 Lay bet placed on Nobleman at 1000. £ 0.03 matched at 310 £ 0.01 unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 371243282140
12/12/2024 17:32:25: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.04 Lay bet placed on Jackrabbit at 1000. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 371243282163
12/12/2024 17:32:25: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.04 Lay bet placed on Juanfortherhode at 1000. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 371243282160
12/12/2024 17:32:25: [G_Auto 1] : £ 0.04 Lay bet placed on Trusted Advisor at 1000. Entirely unmatched when it initially reached the market. Ref: 371243282181
12/12/2024 17:32:43: Guardian has detected that the market is suspended

Thats a typical viewing of what i get to see in practice mode

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swiftynifty When: 12 Dec 24 17:45

so what would've been the ROI on that race?

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s.kenbo When: 12 Dec 24 17:46

A tenner to £10k in a year. Sounds good to me!

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formoftheace When: 12 Dec 24 17:48

And me !

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:50

I did some rough numbers and £30 would be worth roughly 2k by the end of April. Due to liquidity no idea what it could go as far as.

ROI on each race is different, ROI over roughly 28 days is 100% of the 'stake' used. rolled with its profit.

i.e. £90 total bank, 1/3 = £30, rolled = 2k by end of April

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jamee1 When: 12 Dec 24 17:51

A few considerations...

1) 999/1 shots do win occasionally.
2) Diminishing returns is very real on Betfair. ROI% can drop very quickly as stake increases. What can be profitable when betting for pence can quickly become negative when betting for pounds.
3) BA in practice mode cannot be used to accurately measure profitability for several reasons. Mainly because you're not making up part of the market, but also the matching engine will match any value, even if there's only a penny up in real life. You need to run it in real mode to properly test.

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swiftynifty When: 12 Dec 24 17:51

s kenbo , if you read closely it's even better than that AND quicker

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:52

£10 to 10k, if there was enough liquidity, would take until 6/8/2025

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 17:54

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:51PM, jamee1 wrote:

A few considerations...1) 999/1 shots do win occasionally. 2) Diminishing returns is very real on Betfair. ROI% can drop very quickly as stake increases. What can be profitable when betting for pence can quickly become negative when betting for pounds. 3) BA in practice mode cannot be used to accurately measure profitability for several reasons. Mainly because you're not making up part of the market, but also the matching engine will match any value, even if there's only a penny up in real life. You need to run it in real mode to properly test.

Correct they do, but even they cant win if you have the right filters in there

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s.kenbo When: 12 Dec 24 17:54

And I rounded down, Swifty!

Joking aside, I’d be happy to chuck £50 in just out of curiosity. It can be my pension pot!

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top2rated When: 12 Dec 24 17:55

Interesting couple of posts from the Bet Angel Forum albeit ten years ago...

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swiftynifty When: 12 Dec 24 17:56

for all the naysayers, I'm thinking of investing, as they say, don't look a GTFI horse in the mouth.

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s.kenbo When: 12 Dec 24 17:57

Tres bien.

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jamee1 When: 12 Dec 24 17:59

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:56PM, swiftynifty wrote:

for all the naysayers, I'm thinking of investing, as they say, don't look a GTFI horse in the mouth.

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leif When: 12 Dec 24 18:00

GTFI = Get The F0** In

subliminal messaging

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The Management When: 12 Dec 24 18:00

Brassneck is offering £10k in 10 days on the football forum - I think you need to up your game GTFI.

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TameTheTiger When: 12 Dec 24 18:03

laying horses when they hit 1000 is a gold mine, IF you can filter out the ones that win, and IF you can get matched on the ones that dont. getting matched will be a massive problem in reality, even to £1 stakes.

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the dealer When: 12 Dec 24 18:03

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:56PM, swiftynifty wrote:

for all the naysayers, I'm thinking of investing, as they say, don't look a GTFI horse in the mouth.

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 18:07

Dec 12, 2024 -- 6:03PM, TameTheTiger wrote:

laying horses when they hit 1000 is a gold mine, IF you can filter out the ones that win, and IF you can get matched on the ones that dont. getting matched will be a massive problem in reality, even to £1 stakes.

difficult? dont you mean impossible? you cant lay £1 stake at 1000/1 (999/1) as there's a thousand pennies in a pound, not 100

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 18:08

Dec 12, 2024 -- 5:56PM, swiftynifty wrote:

for all the naysayers, I'm thinking of investing, as they say, don't look a GTFI horse in the mouth.

Why didn't i put that in the OP

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freddiewilliams When: 12 Dec 24 18:10

Begging sccumm

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TameTheTiger When: 12 Dec 24 18:11

BACKERS STAKE £1. YOUR LIABILTY WILL BE £999

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 18:12

Begging? It makes no odds to me if you wish to be a part of it or not lmao

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GTFI When: 12 Dec 24 18:12

Dec 12, 2024 -- 6:11PM, TameTheTiger wrote:

BACKERS STAKE £1. YOUR LIABILTY WILL BE £999

ohhh, backers stake, fair do's :)

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