Staking Plans

interesting ,as i can never seem to get staking right ,will give this some thought thanks

Aim	Odds	Stake	Result	PTR	Acc P/L
5.00	2	2.50	1	5.00	5.00
5.00	6	0.83	1	5.00	10.00
5.00	4	1.25	0	6.25	8.75
11.25	9	1.25	1	5.00	20.00
5.00	11	0.45	0	5.45	19.55
10.45	12	0.87	0	11.33	18.67
16.33	11	1.48	1	5.00	35.00
5.00	7	0.71	1	5.00	40.00
5.00	6	0.83	1	5.00	45.00
5.00	10	0.50	0	5.50	44.50
10.50	9	1.17	0	11.67	43.33
16.67	9	1.85	0	18.52	41.48
23.52	5	4.70	0	28.22	36.78
33.22	12	2.77	1	5.00	70.00
5.00	6	0.83	1	5.00	75.00
5.00	6	0.83	1	5.00	80.00
5.00	4	1.25	0	6.25	78.75
11.25	10	1.13	1	5.00	90.00
5.00	11	0.45	1	5.00	95.00
5.00	5	1.00	0	6.00	94.00
11.00	7	1.57	0	12.57	92.43
17.57	7	2.51	1	5.00	110.00
5.00	8	0.63	0	5.63	109.38
10.63	3	3.54	0	14.17	105.83
19.17	8	2.40	0	21.56	103.44
26.56	5	5.31	1	5.00	130.00
5.00	4	1.25	1	5.00	135.00
5.00	11	0.45	0	5.45	134.55
10.45	4	2.61	0	13.07	131.93
18.07	4	4.52	0	22.59	127.41
27.59	6	4.60	1	5.00	155.00

Tops, whats your formula?

If they're legit numbers, T2R should be using a different staking method entirely!  90pts LSP from 31 bets, from a quick tally up?

Don't use them
I put on as much as I feel confident about my selection, sometimes back 2 in a race and do forecasts and tricasts

i make it +77 off 31 bets. 248% ROI. almost impossible numbers to achieve.

with those results level stakes betting would suffice. how does the staking perform if a loss at level stakes occurs ?

same here mrc no real staking plan and do the odd rf/casts now and then ........maybe i am a greedy b,stard but it always feels i didnt have enough on when or if i hit a winner .

and too much on the losers no doubt Foyles. as we all do.

yeah thats about it geoff!

Dec 10, 2024 -- 11:57AM, TameTheTiger wrote:

i make it +77 off 31 bets. 248% ROI. almost impossible numbers to achieve.

Thanks, TTT, I might have duplicated a winner and a missed a loser or two when scrolling.

odds 6 ive calculated as 5/1 etc

The table I posted earlier was lifted from a spreadsheet made donkey's years ago that I came across accidentally on an old memory stick the other day.

It's based on the staking plan in the 'Dawson System' which was advertised in the old Sporting Chronicle Handicap Book.  The 'Aim' was to win 5pts each race and retrieving the previously lost stake(s).

I've used Open Office Calc for the spreadsheet and in this one I've used the random function to generate the 'Odds' (between 2 and 12) and the 'Result' (between 0 and 1).

Here are the formulas (they may differ if using Excel) as requested by Celtic warrior...

Aim	Odds	Stake	Result	PTR	Acc P/L
5.00	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B2/D2	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H2=0;B2+F2;5)	=IF(H2=0;-F2;D2*F2)
=IF(H2=0;J2+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B3/D3	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H3=0;B3+F3;5)	=IF(H3=0;L2-F3;L2+(D3*F3))
=IF(H3=0;J3+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B4/D4	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H4=0;B4+F4;5)	=IF(H4=0;L3-F4;L3+(D4*F4))
=IF(H4=0;J4+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B5/D5	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H5=0;B5+F5;5)	=IF(H5=0;L4-F5;L4+(D5*F5))
=IF(H5=0;J5+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B6/D6	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H6=0;B6+F6;5)	=IF(H6=0;L5-F6;L5+(D6*F6))
=IF(H6=0;J6+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B7/D7	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H7=0;B7+F7;5)	=IF(H7=0;L6-F7;L6+(D7*F7))
=IF(H7=0;J7+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B8/D8	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H8=0;B8+F8;5)	=IF(H8=0;L7-F8;L7+(D8*F8))
=IF(H8=0;J8+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B9/D9	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H9=0;B9+F9;5)	=IF(H9=0;L8-F9;L8+(D9*F9))
=IF(H9=0;J9+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B10/D10	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H10=0;B10+F10;5)	=IF(H10=0;L9-F10;L9+(D10*F10))
=IF(H10=0;J10+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B11/D11	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H11=0;B11+F11;5)	=IF(H11=0;L10-F11;L10+(D11*F11))
=IF(H11=0;J11+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B12/D12	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H12=0;B12+F12;5)	=IF(H12=0;L11-F12;L11+(D12*F12))
=IF(H12=0;J12+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B13/D13	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H13=0;B13+F13;5)	=IF(H13=0;L12-F13;L12+(D13*F13))
=IF(H13=0;J13+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B14/D14	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H14=0;B14+F14;5)	=IF(H14=0;L13-F14;L13+(D14*F14))
=IF(H14=0;J14+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B15/D15	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H15=0;B15+F15;5)	=IF(H15=0;L14-F15;L14+(D15*F15))
=IF(H15=0;J15+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B16/D16	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H16=0;B16+F16;5)	=IF(H16=0;L15-F16;L15+(D16*F16))
=IF(H16=0;J16+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B17/D17	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H17=0;B17+F17;5)	=IF(H17=0;L16-F17;L16+(D17*F17))
=IF(H17=0;J17+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B18/D18	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H18=0;B18+F18;5)	=IF(H18=0;L17-F18;L17+(D18*F18))
=IF(H18=0;J18+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B19/D19	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)	=IF(H19=0;B19+F19;5)	=IF(H19=0;L18-F19;L18+(D19*F19))
=IF(H19=0;J19+5;5)	=RANDBETWEEN(2;12)	=B20/D20	=RANDBETWEEN(0;1)

Tops that sounds like a dangerous martingale-type system to me

Tops that sounds like a dangerous martingale-type system to me

Tops that sounds like a dangerous martingale-type system to me

The square root staking plan was developed by a guy named James Selvidge in a book titled "Money Management". Square root betting is - your base bet PLUS the square root of any bank profit but only while the bank is in profit.

If it falls below your starting point, the bet is always reverted to the base bet level

An example of it is here for anyone interested, in dollars but its all the same! :


https://www.racerate.com/Square_Root_Demo.pdf

what would the stakes be after 10 losers at odds 4.0

The true test of any plan to make a long term profit is bet level stakes.
Start with a bank sufficient to cover 100 consecutive losers. Stakes doubled when bank has doubled.

Yes, if your selections don’t make a profit at level stakes, no fancy staking plan is going to change that.