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differentdrum
06 Oct 24 14:03
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Outside the inner circle does anyone outside the inner circle have a clue what's more important to them, education or winning. If it's winning you get the distinct impression they would all be a lot better off if ridden much closer to the pace. Dropped out, it makes it so much more difficult if the jumping isn't what it should be.
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Report doorman99 October 6, 2024 2:43 PM BST
Totally unfathomable outfit, horrible.
Report themightymac October 6, 2024 3:19 PM BST
Thing is, when you drop a novice way out the back (like our Harry always does), that`s bad enough, but one jumping error (like that one earlier) when trying to make up ground, they have absolutely no chance.

Another thing that surprises me (bearing in mind the family`s world class show jumping background) is that a lot of their horses (Hurdles and Fences) are very poor jumpers.
Report in hell October 6, 2024 3:30 PM BST
Outfit to steer clear off, at the moment they mostly seem to be ridden as non jiggers
Report doorman99 October 6, 2024 3:52 PM BST
Until Chelt hcps then suddenly the seasons non triers sprout wings. Agree with op, you can give weight away but not ground. Applies to all races imo.
Report themightymac October 6, 2024 4:16 PM BST
He must have read my post. Straight to the front and easy winner Cool
Report doorman99 October 6, 2024 4:20 PM BST
Typical
Report breadnbutter October 6, 2024 7:35 PM BST
Racing Post table tour of this yard is a nightmare tale of horror that delivers over and over throughout the season. Tbf most stable tours are but Dan's is deffo filed under fiction.


Apparently every time he tells a porky he eats one too.
Report wondersobright October 25, 2024 3:06 PM BST
how much stick there when in an insurmountable lead...wow Plain
Report wondersobright October 30, 2024 4:04 PM GMT
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_yz9BjCPrk

Cheltenham 25 October 2024:
Race 4 - The Sky Bet Novices' Hurdle (Grade 2) (Registered As The Sharp Novices' Hurdle) (GBB
Race) (Class 1)
Harry Skelton, the rider of the winner, VALGRAND (FR), was found to have used his whip when his
mount was clearly winning. Allowing for the fact that Skelton has had over 150 rides in Great Britain
since his previous whip breach, mitigation on penalty was applied. He will be suspended for 2 days as
follows; Tuesday 12 and Wednesday 13 November 2024.


so after mitigation its just 2 days for 3 hits when clearly winning, all of which were above shoulder height & all were with excessive force
just scrap these rules & start again because its total bollox from start to finish
Report isleham October 31, 2024 8:46 AM GMT
He's very good at porkys especially to his owners which I can vouch for
Report sageform October 31, 2024 9:51 AM GMT
Making the running requires a level of fitness so first time out it is a risky strategy as Cobden and Nicholls are finding. Only the very fit or very good ones are getting home when ridden from the front.
Report differentdrum October 31, 2024 10:54 AM GMT
How could you possibly know that? They could easily be winning just because they are being ridden (far) more economically. One of the nonsense phrases is 'he did it the hard way' when something wins from the front. Invariably, that is the place to be. Droping horses out the back (particularly in slowly run races) when there is no reason not to sit closer, is just a nonsense. In fact if trainers can't get horses to settle at home they shouldn't be trying to do it on a racecourse. When they win from behind, more often than not the ability is just getting the jock out of a hole. Skelton has lost at least two bumpers in the last few days because of poor rides. No doubt there will be many more to follow. Having to make up cheap lengths given away is not a kinder introduction.
Report MJK November 1, 2024 12:55 PM GMT
Bit of a rarity there at Wetherby the Skelton 'good thing' went out like a light. Surprised if it's down to fitness.
Report MJK November 1, 2024 2:31 PM GMT
Denzil another out the back of the telly job. They mustn't like Wetherby.
Report MJK November 2, 2024 7:55 AM GMT
Horse in the first race yesterday was found to have a breathing problem apparently
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