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elisjohn
29 Sep 24 18:10
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thinking seriously about this i have bets as far as 2 years to come world cup football etc,  i always have few grand in my acct , so if i passed away my next of kin would probably have massive job getting money back from betfair , wondering if better to include spouse   in acct to save the hassle ,   so can you add a partner on your acct ? can imagine many have passed away with money in betfair . ( ps i know im suspended at the momrnt ).    honestly reckon many  of us should think of this incase !

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By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 18:12
I d be amazed if any punter wanted his wife having access to his account.

This would shut down racing quicker than the gambling commission.
By:
s.kenbo
When: 29 Sep 24 18:14
Laugh Very true.

Leave your log in details in your will!
By:
elisjohn
When: 29 Sep 24 18:17
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 18:17
Went to aintree years ago,left computer logged in Betfair,I’m betting on phone,wife’s clocking 2k up after 3 races..

Told her it was my mates bets cos he couldn’t get on.
By:
dave1357
When: 29 Sep 24 18:34
they have "inactivity charges" which gradually erode the funds. The Gambling Commission thinks this is ok because it thinks people would have lost the money anyway.
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Sep 24 18:40
I think it's best to contact betfair for advice. Otherwise, the account could be locked and create a lot of unnecessary hassles. The bookie could cop the lot.
By:
EastLower Gooner
When: 29 Sep 24 18:46
Don’t just leave the details of your account / bets.

Also include some guidelines for what the bets / selections are and if to cash out or not.

I’ve got one AP acca where one of the legs is Travis Hunter at 18/1 for the Heisman.

Ain’t no way anyone related to me will know what that is.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Sep 24 19:04
dave1357 Joined: 05 Sep 10
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they have "inactivity charges" which gradually erode the funds. The Gambling Commission thinks this is ok because it thinks people would have lost the money anyway


you sure about that? this account isnt being degraded and hasnt had a bet for 2 years. maybe logging in is enough?

i was using account of geezer that did himself in. no chance of getting paid. lucky id just had a major wothdrawal
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 19:13
Perhaps,Betfair/ bookies should email cust,if account not used after 6/12 months,to let them know their is money in account,if no reply,try and contact a relative to see if alive.then offer relative the money.

Or they can just let it go dormant.
By:
elise
When: 29 Sep 24 19:15
log ins count to prevent the fee
By:
elise
When: 29 Sep 24 19:17
if relatives know you have an account getting the money is straightforward and not much different to any bank account, but the issue for many gamblers is they have multiple accounts and family may have no clue about what they hold
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 19:18
Hence,no activity,triggers an initial email.

No response,proof of life,if dead,offer money to relative.
By:
elise
When: 29 Sep 24 19:20
you could trigger an email but no one in my family would see it, if someone has passed away the only fix is you have a next of kin / nominated person on your account that could be copied in should they be about to start taking funds
By:
Regbutler
When: 29 Sep 24 19:25
Tell your next of kin that if you pass away she, I presume, is to access your BF account, leaving her the sign in details obviously, and withdraw everything to your bank account
Then leave it a few days before informing bank of passing away
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 19:33
It’s low down on my list of priorities.
By:
dave1357
When: 29 Sep 24 19:35
Actually I had a look and they appear to have abandoned the inactivity fee some time after july this year:

july 02

14.1 Save as set out in the clause below, information about inactive Accounts, including applicable administrative fees and the procedure by which you will be informed that such a fee will be charged, can be found in paragraph 7 of the Betfair Charges page under "Inactive Account Fees"

now

14.1 Betfair does not charge inactive account fees.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 19:37
Rule 17.1. We just make it up as we go along,overrides these rules anyway.
By:
brassneck
When: 29 Sep 24 19:38
The main point is everyone is going to pass away someday.in other words "Shockedits going to happen"Shocked
By:
brassneck
When: 29 Sep 24 19:41
This thread will cause a drop in ante post betsSad
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 19:42
Too right,I’m on the Hilary steps,in the death zone.

It’s pure random luck whenever it will be,

10 more good years would be nice,

Any longer ,it’s just hanging around,for the odd moment of joy.

That’s why you have to leave everything on the pitch,no regrets.
By:
elisjohn
When: 29 Sep 24 19:45
yes Regbutler, but like i say you might have loads of ante post bets , so if bank acct closed i could think massive problems getting these lot to withdraw funds
By:
Regbutler
When: 29 Sep 24 20:45
OK elise, I didn't think that bit through...
So, you'll have to leave instructions on how to trade out for a profit or loss in all the ante post markets, ie monetise all positions
Then withdraw all funds, leaving balance at zero
Wait a couple of days for money to hit the bank account and close it

Or, just leave me or some other responsible forumite all your login and bank details?
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 21:01
Responsible forumite.

Everyone is fooking mental.it makes one flew over the cuckoos nest look sane
By:
Regbutler
When: 29 Sep 24 21:22
Comingupthehill...

As I'm sure you know, it was a tongue in cheek remark

Although, there are some on here I would trust... Not myself, by the way
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Sep 24 21:25
Obviously,

It dosent bode well when someone helping says don’t trust me
By:
Regbutler
When: 29 Sep 24 21:32
Comingupthehill, I thought I was doing the wind up
Now I'm not sure
By:
jamee1
When: 29 Sep 24 21:43
As long as your good lady knows you have a Betfair account then it will be settled as part of your estate. I'm not sure how they handle open positions however.

On a separate note for info, any inactivity charges taken by Betfair are fully refundable on request.
By:
brassneck
When: 29 Sep 24 21:47
i have instructions in my will that whatever profits are in my account when i head to the sky are to be divided between my four favourite forumites .i give my solicitor the 4 names.Grin(but they are subject to change at any time,if someone annoys me)GrinGrinGrinGrin
By:
Regbutler
When: 29 Sep 24 21:54
Brassneck, you've always been my favourite forumite
Don't know why I didn't tell you before
By:
brassneck
When: 29 Sep 24 21:55
The plan is workingGrin
By:
brassneck
When: 29 Sep 24 22:04
imagine sitting on your sofa on a cold winters day and £34 grand popped into your account .So you ring betfair ,and they tell you that old BRASS passed away last week end and you were one of the 4.Grin
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 29 Sep 24 22:09
elis..are you an addict and is your acc in prophet?

TIA
By:
longbridge
When: 30 Sep 24 11:07
I'm guessing (hoping?) that somewhere you have documented all your bank, savings, investment accounts, pensions etc to make it simple for your wife to deal with your affairs if you predecease her?

If so (if not, please do, I've helped tidy up a few estates and it makes life much, much easier) just add an envelope containing a list of all your bookmaker accounts and usernames?
By:
longbridge
When: 30 Sep 24 11:08
(I'm reminded of a motorcycling friend of a friend who died a few years back and left a sealed note for one of his biking buddies that said "please sell my bike kit for what it is worth, not what I told my wife I paid for it")
By:
stu
When: 30 Sep 24 13:50
Out of interest, how long would it take before an inactivity charge was levied on an account (not presuming BF do as above, but is it usually something like a year, 6 months?) either with here or other bookies etc?
By:
longbridge
When: 30 Sep 24 15:02
Just over a year I think - WH quotes 13 months.
By:
stu
When: 30 Sep 24 15:17
ok thanks - shouldn't really be allowed to charge them IMO, and when it was threatened to me in the past (though I forget details, hence question) I told them to eff off with any charge and shut the bookies account.
By:
stu
When: 30 Sep 24 15:22
obv that was a bookie, and they may have different rules for each I suppose...in any case I'd simply tell them to shove any charge they tried to use to turn an account into negative balance.
By:
jamee1
When: 30 Sep 24 15:32

Sep 30, 2024 -- 9:17AM, stu wrote:


ok thanks - shouldn't really be allowed to charge them IMO, and when it was threatened to me in the past (though I forget details, hence question) I told them to eff off with any charge and shut the bookies account.


It's just a bookkeeping thing really to prevent the build up of dormant account balances. Any inactivity fee charged is refunded on request.

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