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thegibbons
10 Sep 24 12:42
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Just thought thisMigbe worth starting a blog about.
Years ago  it was a thing you would hear the old boys saying
"Oh look at that Soandso riding for such a trainer, now that's something
You don't see often"
A lot of times it threw up winners.
So looking today I see Tom Marquand riding for Richard Fahey at Leicester 5.17
Don't know if it's significant or not maybe he's rides a lot for him?
Anyone spot anything worth mentioning?

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By:
sparrow
When: 10 Sep 24 12:51
Good spot from the OP.
By:
penzance
When: 10 Sep 24 12:53
0/8 by the looks of it.
By:
thegibbons
When: 10 Sep 24 12:55
Thanks for that.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Sep 24 12:58
as with all stats, they either have a poor strike together... or they are due a winner.
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Sep 24 12:59
I will suggest Shielas Well trained by Grant Tuer and to be ridden by Silvestre De Sousa in the 4.50 at Newcastle.
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 13:11
I find Tuer's stable very tricky to predict sparrow - though odd like you say, why they would book SDS for that one.
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 13:24
Looks very suss as a race - first and second favourites both Tuer.

Might be a leave alone race for me, that one!
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Sep 24 13:31
Right stu, hadn't noticed Tuer had the second favourite as well but it still qualifies as an unusual booking.
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 14:11
Seems he's ridden 4 times for Tuer in last five years records, but won a grand total of 0 (one 2nd place) of those rides, interesting...
By:
top2rated
When: 10 Sep 24 14:42
All 4 of the rides SdS has had for Tuer have all been this year - two in May and two in June.
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 16:39
SDS ride been backed off the boards!
By:
steerforth
When: 10 Sep 24 16:40

Sep 10, 2024 -- 6:58AM, swiftynifty wrote:


as with all stats, they either have a poor strike together... or they are due a winner.


Well quite - but both sides of this equation are laced with illogical bias. To rely on any statistics is to accept that yesterdays results have some bearing on today's outcome, regardless of the circumstances or conditions that prevailed in that set of results, or those that apply to today's race. It's like saying Crystal Palace haven't beaten (say) Wolves since 1962 (Made that up btw before anyone checks), different people, different circumstances. IMHO far too much credit is given to statistics. Today's result is part of tomorrow's statistics. It will change what those staistics look like, but you don't know how until it happens. (And 8 is ludicrously small sample even if you were minded to take heed of it).

By:
steerforth
When: 10 Sep 24 16:43
Before anyone jumps on me for that, I acknowledge that some stats have relevance. But they very often don't, and its the ones that don't (where circumstances are unrelated) that I'm singling out here.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Sep 24 16:48
the worst stat i read is jockey P/L to level stakes. For one, no one backs any jockey's rides blindly for a whole season and two, the jockey may pick up a late spare that wins at a massive price that you only see in the next day's paper!
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Sep 24 16:52
thegibbons, ironic mispelt thread name. Unusual jockey bookie, is the answer Graham Gibbons? Or Mulrennan? Or Dwyer?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Sep 24 16:52
wd sparrow!
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 16:52
Guess that's a 'Boom' for this then...
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 16:54
Did you back it sparrow?
By:
sparrow
When: 10 Sep 24 16:55
No bet, stu.  I rarely bet short ones/
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 16:56
Ok, fair enough - would have been a good trade for free bet too, using this approach..
By:
saddo
When: 10 Sep 24 17:16
I've backed the Ridler, looked well two runs back. I'm taking a chance on the ground, never run well on it
By:
stu
When: 10 Sep 24 17:21
Ran well enough on it, just not quite good enough for win...
By:
thegibbons
When: 10 Sep 24 18:10
Well done if you backed Sheilas well, What happened with the thread title misspelled
Was a Dropbox was in front when typing, couldn't get rid of it.I though I would be able
To edit it and correct it but there doesn't seem to be an
Option.
As regards the Jockey spotting J Doyle went to
Lingfield for One mount,but it was 4/7 so not for me.
I done Marquand for Fahey Ew so got money back
Thanks everyone for your input and if you spot
Anything don't be afraid to point it out
Best o luck, till later.
By:
swiftynifty
When: 10 Sep 24 18:11
the one ride system certainly for a bigger jockey is always a good one, albeit the prices are often not.
By:
thegibbons
When: 12 Sep 24 17:06
Ok, What about Tom Marquand for Willie Mullins
435 leopardstown Saturday?
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Sep 24 17:09
Good spot,gibbons.
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Sep 24 17:09
Good spot,gibbons.
By:
penzance
When: 12 Sep 24 17:21
0/3
By:
sparrow
When: 12 Sep 24 17:25
Desperate research Plain
By:
thegibbons
When: 12 Sep 24 17:59
I see Billy Louchnane has one for him as well
But rich riccis horses last two runs have caught eyes.
By:
thegibbons
When: 12 Sep 24 18:03
I see T Jake's for Richard Fahey in the 555 Doncaster tomorrow!
By:
penzance
When: 12 Sep 24 18:10
Don't think he has before but over there for the Boughey
animal (2.50),I'd expect.
By:
thegibbons
When: 12 Sep 24 18:17
Thank you Penzance!
By:
thegibbons
When: 14 Sep 24 17:04
It's easy to be wise after the event.But but
435 leop How many times does Aiden o brien put up a claimer?
By:
thegibbons
When: 28 Sep 24 13:05
I see S levey for Ian jardine, that's a rare booking.
In the 340 Newmarket
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