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Went in today a brand new **** having seen 3 new ones in different towns recently offering bog on singles and multiples, I must say really very smart but did a ew all ew accumulator to be told they do not do ew all ew like bettfred, the excuse was the software cannot work them out, bull crap as others do it, it’s just a way of saying if your clued up F off, I’ve done em all my life but I might do 15 a year, this is how they clamp you down and I won’t be using them again, ew all ew is for the clued up punters who like a better return on multiples apart from the odd very rare occasion they all win, I’ve had some great returns using ew all ew and it’s been going since the very old days just another nail in the coffin
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Didn’t realise s hop was banned
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Boil sports shop I put so that’s banned
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Equally divided bets?
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That'll be correct about the software know all and tbh i'd not rate equally divided as a bet restricted to shrewdies.
It's a swings and roundabouts way of playing when you break the bet down , sometimes you gain sometimes you don't. You can quote example all day long to suit both methods but one example that's most can relate to would be a £1 e/way yankee. Imagining 4 horses at 5/1 all placed but no winners , orthodox returns would be £72.00 vs Equally divided returns of £22.00 which is obviously your total stake back , if you did manage all 4 winners one day you'd be sorry you ever heard of equally divided. Not for me but each to their own  |
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Bald fella takes ED bets,unless only just stopped.
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Hayden I suppose it’s how you use them I find if you’ve got some big prices and shortish price it works better but I’d bet you will always be better off doing ew all ew over the years as the figures are in your favour in the long run, because you very rarely get them all to win and ew all ew pays larger especially as most of us cannot get them all to win, I’ve had plenty 3 out of 4 and the one placed and even 5 out of 6 and the one placed, never had 5 out of 5 or 6 out of 6 with some decent prices I would include, it’s a shrewdie bet in the right hands but if you don’t win then it’s not
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Fair enough know all as ED obviously suits your style of betting but there's two concrete reasons as to why i'd never consider ED.......
I only back win only double digits in handicaps , never e/way and use the stake to have two win singles on the exchange if appropriate with not being able to split two rags that fit the criteria. Secondly the only time i back e/way is in non handicaps when either or all of the place book is over broke , the shape of the race is right , the selections have exposed form of sorts , there are as guaranteed as you can be to have 8+ runners and my average lifetime price for those selections would be around 4 or 5/1 , best described as careful or bad e/way races. So trust me i'd be plenty worse off using the ED method. Best of luck mate |
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settling a tanner/way all e/way round robins pre settling machines. they went to bottom of the pile .
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Remember going back many years geoff had a customer who placed more or less those bets , never looked at them and told him to write returns on the back of slip and told the cashier to pay out that amount , went on for years.
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never heard it called EW all EW , Always ED , Learmn something new Every day LOL
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Never heard of this bet before so how long has it been in existence?
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For ever sparrow.
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Equally Divided for Ever Sparrow
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It's not an exact science sparrow but in general using an e/way yankee as an example ( see my post earlier for 4 placed )
If all placed with no winners you'll be heavily worse off. One winner with 3 placed you'll gain a bit Two winners and two placed you'll be a decent amount better off Three winners and one placed it's touch and go depending on prices and such All four winners and you'll be sorry you ever heard about the bet and make way to Beachy Head. As i say not an exact science all that but a general overview depending on circumstances. |
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I just never knew of it all and in the past I did bet yankees and lucky 15s etc but never heard of this one before. I wasn't one for all those contrived bets myself.
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I was taught to settle them in 72 when i trained as a manager for William Hill at 18, all those bets, round robins, round the clock, flag bets, ew all ew were a nightmare especially with having to deduct tax on the any to come parts. Believe it was mainly a bet done up North, but took a few in the midlands as well. As someone earlier said, straight to the bottom of the pile.
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Yes,it was far more common in northern betting offices.
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That explains it a little as I spent my younger years in London and worked for a while as a trainee settler for Maxie Parker bookmaker in the West End.
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I am like Sparrow. Never heard of these bets and I have been going into betting shopd since I was 12
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Like have a 5er ew a Horse than splitting Returns on the Next horse Have done ED EW Doubles and Trebs
Basically If cash bets with the instruction to Dived any money running on equally Ew on the next selection ETC 365 had an option to play them online at one stage |
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As long as you get more Wnrs than Plcs in an E/D bet you'll
be better off than an E/W bet. If all win you will lose out. |
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Were you in Hill House Credit office Stewart ?
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£1 E/W acca 4 horses all 5/1 1/5 the Plce.
3 Wnrs 1 Plce £1 E/W ED - Ret £128 £1 E/W - Ret £16 |
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worked many different shops in north as a relief manager back in the day. Wasnt an overly popular bet(because 99% of punters wouldnt have a scooby do how to settle them) but you would get 1 /or 2 giving it a go. Twas a pain in the backside to settle if you had 3 placed/ win placed in an e/way all e/way R.Robin. A win round robin by comparison was simple using the odds to approach with doubles /treble depending on number of winners.depending
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i used to write ed at the bottom of the slip and it usuallly wasnt spotted so you could claim it when it went your way and ignore it when not
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mitolo
remember that little cheat and worked more often that not.You've got it penzance , two or three winners with two placed and you're quid's up but all place only it's bad and all 4 winners it's suicidal. The main single reason punters were scared of it was that they didn't understand the bet and those who did were frightened in case they got all 4 winners , many punters used to split the bet 50/50. |
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Would have hated you as a customer mitolo , no offence mate
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#WAC
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Hayden maybe a mistake but your example 0f 3 winners and 1 placed in a Yankee is wrong it’s the why you must always do ew all ew, it’s a massive difference in in your favour, and I never do yankees as you’ll already know they are not for the clued up punter, you have to at least the the doubles out which is 6 bets, better doing 3 doubles 1 Accra, or the acca on its own, hope that helps
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That’s messed up lol, leavethe doubles out, and 3 trebles 1 acca, not as posted
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Penzance puts it better in his example of why you should do it if it suits you and as pointed out most punters don’t understand it and do not use it but do the maths and you have a edge that boyles sport and betfred realise and all the internet bookies as not possible to do on line, there is a reason they don’t want you to do it imo
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know all
Having worked all my life in tech, I suspect the reason they "don't want you to do it" is it's just not worth their while to support it. Multiples, Luckies, Yankees etc are all cash cows for these companies, but building and maintaining the software to correctly settle ED EW accas, round robins, "all to come", "union jacks" etc is just not worth the cost for the tiny fraction of punters (mainly the diminishing band of ageing ex-betting-shop racing types, at a guess) who want to use them? |
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know all , yes agree 3 winners is better and thought that's what i said earlier but the off putting for many was the dream of getting 4 winners which is a disaster.
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Off course betting shops were built on this type of bet.
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no you wouldnt haydn, i was pally with all of em. no trouble and always avinalaff
if you spotted it, id go  . no prob and carry on |
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The fact you were a shop character i can well believe mitolo
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Equally divided bets were common when I was a young settler in the North and they weren't as much as pain to settle as the ATC's and Round Robins. When I used to do multiples on a daily basis I'd often add an ED treble to a an each way trixie. In Lancashire in the 80's they often called them each all each way.
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Catford surely any equally divided bet is an ATC without being stated?
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I've never heard it called ED before,always ew.
My old man was good with figures and he had an ew Yankee every Sat. He could work it out but I couldn't and I wasn't a dunce at arithmetic. |