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What a crap commentor he is called Spanish Eyes
Straight who wasnt even in the race
Straight who wasnt even in the race
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Find his commentaries monotone and boring tbh.
The course commentator is a greatly underused role by racecourses. With the right person behind the mike they could be given more airtime and make the day so more enjoyable for all types of racegoer.
The course commentator is a greatly underused role by racecourses. With the right person behind the mike they could be given more airtime and make the day so more enjoyable for all types of racegoer.
Sep 1, 2024 -- 2:20PM, doorman99 wrote:
Only one I mute, can't bear his loud harsh voice.
You mean you don't mute Shouty?? Blimey.
Bartlett is obsessed with the colours. Ennis is another one.
All the good commentators call the horses not the colours.
These colour obsessed commentators are hard to listen to. They should play back the great old commentators to see how it is done.
All the good commentators call the horses not the colours.
These colour obsessed commentators are hard to listen to. They should play back the great old commentators to see how it is done.
Shrill drill
Never trust a posh boy who uses clipped slang.
Never trust a posh boy who uses clipped slang.
And vever trust an Englishman using the latin trill. Nothing more pretentious. Frrdrancesco Bardrraccaaaa!
His raspy voice is a massive negative
Rule 1 for nag commentator have a good voice like
Simon Dow
Mike The cat Cattermole
Raleigh Gilbert
Rule 1 for nag commentator have a good voice like
Simon Dow
Mike The cat Cattermole
Raleigh Gilbert
The commentators telling you the colours early in a race are doing it for themselves instead of learning them pre-race.
Check the colours being worn by the jockey atop your hoss and be attentive.
it's not rocket science
it's not rocket science
rofl forums full of people moaning at the demise of racing and when a commentator tries to help people identify where their horse is, he gets abuse!
I don't know how he gets the top gigs, including the french one's. Much prefer Patrick Ferriday to both Bartlett and Cooper for the french racing. Cooper made a real gaffe a couple of days ago calling a 'winner' before the line.
Feraday isn't bad but there's a lot better away from Equidia. I like Stephane Costas who commentates for France Galop.
I don't think most of you actually saw the race in question - no surprise there. This was the Gr. 1 12f Grosser Preis von Baden, one of the top middle distance races in Europe. Only 6 runners, it shouldn't be difficult should it? they only have 1 job to do.
He called Spanish Eyes, a 3yo filly, correctly for about 1 furlong, then suddenly switched to Straight. I know why, they run in the same colours, but Straight is a 4yo colt who finished 3rd in the race last year, maybe he commentated on that too, and got mixed up, but he wasn't in the race this time.
He was lucky to get away with it as Spanish Eyes held every chance and might have been involved in the finish, but just her 4th start not quite good enough on the day. He called her Straight all the way to the line.
6 runners?.. come on..
I don't think most of you actually saw the race in question - no surprise there. This was the Gr. 1 12f Grosser Preis von Baden, one of the top middle distance races in Europe. Only 6 runners, it shouldn't be difficult should it? they only have 1 job to do.
He called Spanish Eyes, a 3yo filly, correctly for about 1 furlong, then suddenly switched to Straight. I know why, they run in the same colours, but Straight is a 4yo colt who finished 3rd in the race last year, maybe he commentated on that too, and got mixed up, but he wasn't in the race this time.
He was lucky to get away with it as Spanish Eyes held every chance and might have been involved in the finish, but just her 4th start not quite good enough on the day. He called her Straight all the way to the line.
6 runners?.. come on..
As you will know german racing has never been covered on the racing channels. I don't think it's been strong for a few years now hence I haven't been chasing You Tube, or whatever, for this race.
personal view having met him
clearly enjoys his job and works hard, if they make the odd mistake it's to be expected, try it or let us know when you have a gig
i like his tone and delivery esp on the french stuff where sometimes he gets away with having a laugh and says things he might not about uk racing, can be quite acerbic
when i spoke with him he was really helpful and polite when he was actually really busy as he was covering for r hoiles and i spoke with him again a year or two later and again really nice guy just doing his job and was really sharp and i liked him as a person
we all have favs or not so favs because certain things irritate or help with what we do on here but in the scheme of things does it really matter? just enjoy the racing and give the guy some slack, i'd be inclined to think he'd be his own worst critic as would most of them, they are professionals and don't aim to fck up, just happens
clearly enjoys his job and works hard, if they make the odd mistake it's to be expected, try it or let us know when you have a gig
i like his tone and delivery esp on the french stuff where sometimes he gets away with having a laugh and says things he might not about uk racing, can be quite acerbic
when i spoke with him he was really helpful and polite when he was actually really busy as he was covering for r hoiles and i spoke with him again a year or two later and again really nice guy just doing his job and was really sharp and i liked him as a person
we all have favs or not so favs because certain things irritate or help with what we do on here but in the scheme of things does it really matter? just enjoy the racing and give the guy some slack, i'd be inclined to think he'd be his own worst critic as would most of them, they are professionals and don't aim to fck up, just happens
To be fair you don't need to have met the guy to have a view on his commentary, good or bad.
No you don’t, nevertheless the matter is subjective….one man’s meat is another man’s poison!
I've always had to mute Darren Owen, his calls sounds like he's sneering. But I heard him in normal conversation previewing the Ebor the other day on Radio 5 and he sounded perfectly fine. So none of this is about anything other than commentating style, and certainly nothing to do with anyone's character, (although I stand by the appearance of pretentiousness of foreign intonation- Revo-loo-thiohn)
I'm sure he's a very nice guy, but that's not the point. I've just watched the replay and he calls it Straight from when the stalls open.
Ruined the commentary really, but they do all make mistakes it's true, some shockers. A viewer is entitled to feel irritated by it though. Some horses you follow, you keep track of, watch the replays.
You might even be connected with the ownership.
Ruined the commentary really, but they do all make mistakes it's true, some shockers. A viewer is entitled to feel irritated by it though. Some horses you follow, you keep track of, watch the replays.
You might even be connected with the ownership.
there are always shockers totally agree and a few of them apologise, rem catt getting slaughtered recently and then he came out with the apology and explained how it had happened and i felt sorry for the guy
another way to look at this is sometimes those mistakes can be profited upon, so if u know the names/colours and they make an error i always say thank you and hope i can hit on it
another way to look at this is sometimes those mistakes can be profited upon, so if u know the names/colours and they make an error i always say thank you and hope i can hit on it
As a commentator, who also mentions colours during races, I could probably write an essay on the whys and wherefores. Not all viewers are the same, and I'd say the majority do like this approach. Maybe there is an element of 'getting your eggs in order', but it's doing the same for the viewer before the closing stages unfold.
I expect I enjoy your commentaries iggy.. I also enjoy Mr Bartlett's most of the time, especially at Newmarket.. not so much abroad.
A difficult job it seems to me, on a hiding to nothing frequently, as they can't please everyone. I enjoy the quick thinkers who can ad lib with ease, and quip.. I wish they'd hurry up though, in sprints, they spend the first furlong telling us the long winded name of the race, and who is in last place, by which time they're at halfway before you know who's in front.
A difficult job it seems to me, on a hiding to nothing frequently, as they can't please everyone. I enjoy the quick thinkers who can ad lib with ease, and quip.. I wish they'd hurry up though, in sprints, they spend the first furlong telling us the long winded name of the race, and who is in last place, by which time they're at halfway before you know who's in front.
I always find Bartlett clear and concise. Mistakes will always be made and they have no chance pleasing everyone with their style of commentary.
It's s tough gig where imo the majority do a decent job.
It's s tough gig where imo the majority do a decent job.
All much of a muchness imop except the one or two who try to be too clever and predicting what will happen. My main gripe with most of them is their focus on the betting, in particular whoever the fav is. Whether it's the tone of the voice or in particular the commentator in question here focusing on 'the well punted' one the focus is mainly on one or two horses, which is wrong imop.
Ps, always feel Alan Howes should get more gigs. It doesn't matter to him whether it's a 1/2 or 50/1 shot winning his commentary is based on all the horses, they way it should be.
Bartlett better than the screaming Irishman Hanlon (?) He gives me nightmares and always upsets the dog.
Thanks Smokey. You said I'm 'not bad' earlier and I'll take that, mostly we just get slagged off on here.
I like both Bartlett and Jerry Hannon,in the minority I know.
Smoky Hill 03 Sep 24 07:59
I wish they'd hurry up though, in sprints, they spend the first furlong telling us the long winded name of the race, and who is in last place, by which time they're at halfway before you know who's in front.
David Coleman once spoke of a trick he used when calling a 100 metres final, as everything happens so quickly he said he'd spend the first 10 metres or so saying something like, "and it's a level start" or such like, just to give himself a couple seconds to process who's leading and contesting before he calls the race properly.
I wish they'd hurry up though, in sprints, they spend the first furlong telling us the long winded name of the race, and who is in last place, by which time they're at halfway before you know who's in front.
David Coleman once spoke of a trick he used when calling a 100 metres final, as everything happens so quickly he said he'd spend the first 10 metres or so saying something like, "and it's a level start" or such like, just to give himself a couple seconds to process who's leading and contesting before he calls the race properly.
Peter O'Sullevan... ''and they're away.. Amaranda breaks fast.. bla, bla bla''.. that's how it should be.. ?
Oh Jeez iggy I feel I should butter you up.. you are my favourite Equidia I must say that, and I do like the way your roll the French 'R's'.. lol.
Keep up the good work! but I admit, I dread it when hearing anyone else.
Oh Jeez iggy I feel I should butter you up.. you are my favourite Equidia I must say that, and I do like the way your roll the French 'R's'.. lol.
Keep up the good work! but I admit, I dread it when hearing anyone else.
just on the french german stuff and i know it doesn't apply to your initial point, but they are calling this stuff from the monitor in a studio as far as i know unlike the uk on course guys
im not sure whether that's easier or harder as i've always wondered if they have multiple camera shots on diff monitors or they get just what we see as per the director which is often not giving wide angle closers etc?
im not sure whether that's easier or harder as i've always wondered if they have multiple camera shots on diff monitors or they get just what we see as per the director which is often not giving wide angle closers etc?
It would be nice to know how often they are on track. Cooper doesn't commentate over here, so maybe he is based in France?
DD. All the French stuff is called from a studio except for the Arc. Calling more than one meeting a day. German is done from the track but still using monitors as we aren't in the stands.
Duffy - Coleman was right, that's exactly what's going on, at least for me. On a straight course you want to know where the split is if two groups form and who's leading both groups, looking for slow starters is both useful and affords some time.
Sorry about the R's Smoky. It's tricky, I'm not French as you can tell but I reckon a modicum of respect for the local language is reasonable. I have been called a pretentious **** for my troubles.
Elise - A lot of use is made of monitors even by on-course commentators. It would be nice to use the naked eye but we do also have a 2 sec delay screen as well as live which helps somewhat.
Btw, on the Equidia comms there are a lot of new voices appearing. Fitzgerald, Powell, Fussey and Owen should all be pretty familiar.
iggy, lol.. I'm sorry about that, bit mean of them.. Interesting though, and great to have your perspective...
Love your Deauville and Longchamp comms in particular.. I've heard Owen sometimes, he's good, I've always liked Darren, and really impressed with Fussey, he has just the right tones for me. Not heard the others.
iggy.. I'm a Zarak obsessive, hence my annoyance at getting the name wrong in my first post, being a filly by that sire. I watch them all. Wish me luck for Metropolitan on Sunday if he runs, place at best I s'pose.
To make amends, I enjoy Ian Bartlett at Newmarket, he's made for that course.
Love your Deauville and Longchamp comms in particular.. I've heard Owen sometimes, he's good, I've always liked Darren, and really impressed with Fussey, he has just the right tones for me. Not heard the others.
iggy.. I'm a Zarak obsessive, hence my annoyance at getting the name wrong in my first post, being a filly by that sire. I watch them all. Wish me luck for Metropolitan on Sunday if he runs, place at best I s'pose.
To make amends, I enjoy Ian Bartlett at Newmarket, he's made for that course.
Iggy any chance of doing a commentary without making reference to the betting, or the 'Market leaders' and the like? Just calling every horse equal?
Just doing my catch-up and came to the 1.30 at Chantilly on monday.
What's going on with Barty?
The promising horse that leads throughout and wins is Nitoi, but for some reason Barty combines it with the prefix USA to invent a different name. Hard to believe.
What's going on with Barty?
The promising horse that leads throughout and wins is Nitoi, but for some reason Barty combines it with the prefix USA to invent a different name. Hard to believe.
it's called not doing your homework, he probably did 3 meetings that day.
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