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He is spot on.
Doyle pulled the wool over the Stewards eyes last night.
Doyle pulled the wool over the Stewards eyes last night.
oh jolly good...
wouldn't mind seeing that tbh aceform.
wouldn't mind seeing that tbh aceform.
Led, clear halfway 10L ahead when eased 1F out, shaken up close home, headed post. 17th Jan 1995 ridden by Seb Sanders.
Like getting Eddie The Eagle to critique Franz Klammer's mistakes!!
Like getting Eddie The Eagle to critique Franz Klammer's mistakes!!
Probably more like getting Eddie the Eagle to critique Matti Nykanen's mistakes
i don't do heroes...
but if i did Seb would be one of them.
but if i did Seb would be one of them.
the bloke who was married to Hayley Moore doing his best to defend Doyle...
clown.
clown.
he used to be with her didn't he ?
might not have been married but i'm sure he was with her at one stage.
might not have been married but i'm sure he was with her at one stage.
The most baffling thing ever in racing Southwell for Curley to Frankel……incredible !
Two strides from the line and a neck up, the horse could be doing anything you ain't stopping pushing.....show that to the Hong Kong stewards, Vincent Ho failed to ride his mount out with enough viguor and dead heated and got a 10 meeting ban.
Might have been given they have a daughter Hibby/Quixall but why let facts get in your way?
Seb says Doyle deserved 28 days...
Martin Kelly has a hissy fit...
what is wrong with these presenters/pundits that 99.9999999% of them feel they need to defend jockeys ?
it's stomach curdling stuff tbh.
Martin Kelly has a hissy fit...
what is wrong with these presenters/pundits that 99.9999999% of them feel they need to defend jockeys ?
it's stomach curdling stuff tbh.
massive respect for saunders for saying it exactly how it was..the other clown doing his bets to justify what doyle done...~WAC
hideous from Kelly Mr.Hunt...
it's 100% what i expected tho....
how dare Seb give an honest opinion.
it's 100% what i expected tho....
how dare Seb give an honest opinion.
He stopped riding a few strides before the so called wobble and the finishing line...period.
Seb didnt say that Doyle deserved 28 days. He said he eased off, and if 28 days is the mandatory ban then so be it.
if the punishment is 28 days then that's what he deserved...
i didn't hear him say '28 days is too harsh for that'...
which is what he would've said if that's what he thought imv.
i didn't hear him say '28 days is too harsh for that'...
which is what he would've said if that's what he thought imv.
Hibby 2 minutes 3 seconds in, Seb says it doesnt warrant 28 days. Thanks for the link by the way, good luck 
fair enough TTT...
the more i hear Kelly the more embarrassing it becomes...
shocking stuff.
the more i hear Kelly the more embarrassing it becomes...
shocking stuff.
for all those who missed it...
https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer/programmes/
raceday live has not been uploaded yet but should be up later this evening...the chat was between 4.30 & 5.00
https://www.attheraces.com/atrplayer/programmes/
raceday live has not been uploaded yet but should be up later this evening...the chat was between 4.30 & 5.00
I wonder what chapman said to Doyle before he interviewed him……apology for the fodder ?
Not convinced Kelly doesn't agree with him. It's a discussion topic and the anchor is more or less obliged to challenge opinion to make the debate. You couldn't call it a heartfelt rebuke.
BHA are the most spineless ****'* ewe could ever come across..utterly embarassing.
Biggest miscarriage of justice since O.J Simpson was acquitted of murder ffs.
Nice one Sebby! Need More Blunt Pundits like him calling it a spade a spade!
Just needs to improve his tipping
but respect for saying the way most of us saw it , he eased up before the lollypop and it cost the horse a win, Period!
Just needs to improve his tipping
but respect for saying the way most of us saw it , he eased up before the lollypop and it cost the horse a win, Period!
The Stewards who sucked this in are an example of the lack of scrutiny within horseracing - disgraceful
I've worked it out - The Stewards are the sons of a Tool-Maker
And the dumb Stewards bought it....You could not make it up ffs.
Like i said please watch Seb Sanders summing up if you can and if that does not convince you Doyle facked up big time...There aint no hope for you...Goodnight.
P.S i never backed the horse but what about the big hitters who lost there money?
steerforth Aug 24 20:14
Not convinced Kelly doesn't agree with him. It's a discussion topic and the anchor is more or less obliged to challenge opinion to make the debate. You couldn't call it a heartfelt rebuke.
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steerforth...
he does the interviews at racecourses gig...
he doesn't want to upset jockeys in case they tell him to do one when he asks them for an interview...
if that happens his head honchos will probably look elsewhere for an interviewer (which is wrong imv but that's how these folk work)...
thus you get these folk defending jockeys the vast vast vast majority of the time (very nearly always)...
it's the head honchos who should stick by the person who are to blame...
and i just hope nowt happens to Seb Sanders for giving an honest view on this...
if Doyle doesn't do interviews on that channel then so be it...
that's the attitude the ATR head honchos should take if Doyle goes down that road...
let's see.
Not convinced Kelly doesn't agree with him. It's a discussion topic and the anchor is more or less obliged to challenge opinion to make the debate. You couldn't call it a heartfelt rebuke.
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steerforth...
he does the interviews at racecourses gig...
he doesn't want to upset jockeys in case they tell him to do one when he asks them for an interview...
if that happens his head honchos will probably look elsewhere for an interviewer (which is wrong imv but that's how these folk work)...
thus you get these folk defending jockeys the vast vast vast majority of the time (very nearly always)...
it's the head honchos who should stick by the person who are to blame...
and i just hope nowt happens to Seb Sanders for giving an honest view on this...
if Doyle doesn't do interviews on that channel then so be it...
that's the attitude the ATR head honchos should take if Doyle goes down that road...
let's see.
Seb's days on that channel are numbered imo
he was dead right but the head honcho's will be furious at him telling it as it was, that's absolutely not what they do on there.
kelly probably had a producer in his ear screaming at him to get Seb to shut the fk up ....
he was dead right but the head honcho's will be furious at him telling it as it was, that's absolutely not what they do on there.
kelly probably had a producer in his ear screaming at him to get Seb to shut the fk up ....
wouldn't be the slightest bit surprised tbh hulk...
if they do ditch him we will know EXACTLY the reason why.
if they do ditch him we will know EXACTLY the reason why.
I mean Doyle said he was in danger of being unseated and that is why he stopped riding,i have heard some boll0x in my time but that takes the biscuit.....Look at the replay where is the evidence of that statement?...Liar liar pants on fire.
much prefer the mick fitz "everything is rosey" approach. just stop oil protestor runs on the track, fitzy - you could not wish to meet a nicer just stop oil protestor, he's a lovely lad, puts a lot into his protesting and deserves all he gets.
you could name a million of them tbh hulk...
i'll be fascinated to see what Anthony Dunkley says about it.
i'll be fascinated to see what Anthony Dunkley says about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eH8dYoOO20E
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this is a longer version than the twitter one...
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this is a longer version than the twitter one...
Seb Sanders spot on...
'on situations like this i don't think jockeys should be in the stewards room'...
i totally agree...
we can see with our own eyes...
we don't need excuses from jockeys BHA.
'on situations like this i don't think jockeys should be in the stewards room'...
i totally agree...
we can see with our own eyes...
we don't need excuses from jockeys BHA.
Great stuff Seb. Total breath of fresh air. He was 100% right on the two meeting rule as well. Again only one to speak out. Producers....more of this please. BHA/Stewards totally spineless. Don't blame Doyle for trying his "best" in the stewards room, but like Seb says his comments shouldn't really be considered.
Would the BHA take what this fella has to say as fact?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REpNTi-9oRQ
Would the BHA take what this fella has to say as fact?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REpNTi-9oRQ
Seb has enough to worry him with his poor wife,doubt he will lose sleep over what other people think….
In a way it's disappointing the fuss around this. It just confirms how bad things are when it comes to the idea of the media doing anything but cheerleading. Sanders was stating the blindingly obvious. Playing devil's advocate - if that's what it was - doesn't work when in reality there isn't another side to the story. Kelly ended up looking a total plank. I have only seen two defences of the ride - Doyle himself and the forum's chief attention seeker. That's as close to a zero as you can get.
i think it's fair to say the Windsor stewards and the BHA head honchos have defended the ride (via the back door) differentdrum.
differ... Couldn't agree more with your reference to cheerleaders. It's not just racing
presenters but most sport these days. I watched the Olympics on a subscription channel and
there was non of the sycophantic rubbish presented on the BBC. I would rather go to the
dentist than watch the Bbs coverage. It's the same with football. Every goal scored is
'incredible!' or 'unbelievable!'
Today's presenters are there to hype not to comment.
presenters but most sport these days. I watched the Olympics on a subscription channel and
there was non of the sycophantic rubbish presented on the BBC. I would rather go to the
dentist than watch the Bbs coverage. It's the same with football. Every goal scored is
'incredible!' or 'unbelievable!'
Today's presenters are there to hype not to comment.
Hope not sparrow i'm more than happy with two dedicated channels , don't want to go back to the bad old days of not even waiting for the SP before hopping back to bungee jumping from Paraguay.
Just wrongfooted by the previous post, hayden. The BBC didn't do a bad job back then and many on here still reminisce about those old presenters.
i discussed earlier whether seb asked permission to discuss the incident.
Kelly thinks that because Doyle rode the horse, we must take his explanation on trust. Unbelievable. Taken to the logical conclusion, this would abrogate the need for any stewards at all. "I say Mr Jockey, did you interfere with the 2nd past the post?" "No" "Fine. Thank you for being so honest. Results stands then."
Have ITV York discussed this?
Wonder if they will?
If they do, can someone post the timestamp, so I can rewind to it.
Wonder if they will?
If they do, can someone post the timestamp, so I can rewind to it.
DonegalPrince Aug 24 14:01
Kelly thinks that because Doyle rode the horse, we must take his explanation on trust. Unbelievable. Taken to the logical conclusion, this would abrogate the need for any stewards at all. "I say Mr Jockey, did you interfere with the 2nd past the post?" "No" "Fine. Thank you for being so honest. Results stands then."
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they should stop asking jockeys to participate in Stewards Enquiries imv DP...
totally pointless imv.
Kelly thinks that because Doyle rode the horse, we must take his explanation on trust. Unbelievable. Taken to the logical conclusion, this would abrogate the need for any stewards at all. "I say Mr Jockey, did you interfere with the 2nd past the post?" "No" "Fine. Thank you for being so honest. Results stands then."
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they should stop asking jockeys to participate in Stewards Enquiries imv DP...
totally pointless imv.
when they threw Doyle out at Goodwood that chief steward had already made his mind up, the whole talking to the jockeys thing was just a circus for the cameras. what they said made absolutely no difference.
Seb Sanders agrees with us all tbh...
utterly pointless having them in the room.
utterly pointless having them in the room.
We shouldn't be surprised at anything that happens with stewards and pundits alike as they are bonded by their obscene sychophancy and that will be part and parcel of racing ad infinitum.
This episode, however, is absolutely grotesque in particular.
This episode, however, is absolutely grotesque in particular.
Sophie Candy (Chief Steward), Georgina Cartwright (Stewards’ Panel Chair), Cody Watkins (Steward), Kelly O’Boyle (Assistant Steward), Josie Brown-Smith (Raceday Assistant)
have we established who this lot are and how many winners they've ridden between them ??
have we established who this lot are and how many winners they've ridden between them ??
they all sound very 'Lambournish' to me hulk...
horsey types...
as with most stewards it's normally a mate of a mate of a mate of a mate of a mate and they have some sort of connection to the racing world...
or the son or daughter of someone in racing...
the BHA is an absolute farce of an organisation imv...
i could give you an example but it's probably best done in a DM tbh.
horsey types...
as with most stewards it's normally a mate of a mate of a mate of a mate of a mate and they have some sort of connection to the racing world...
or the son or daughter of someone in racing...
the BHA is an absolute farce of an organisation imv...
i could give you an example but it's probably best done in a DM tbh.
O'Boyle used to muck out the stables for Paul Nicholls.
not sure how that qualifies her to decide whether a jockey picks up a ban or not.
not sure how that qualifies her to decide whether a jockey picks up a ban or not.
Sophie Candy has gone from clerk of the course at Windsor to chief steward. She is a daughter of Henry the trainer
oh so a perfect candidate to be a chief steward then...
no connections to anyone whatsoever...
jolly good.
no connections to anyone whatsoever...
jolly good.
No consequences if you are useless as Steward. Has one ever been fired?
does the BHA not even understand how bad the optics look when sons and daughters of trainers / establishment figures etc are given stewarding jobs ?
the answer is YES they do...
but they don'y give a flying fk.
the answer is YES they do...
but they don'y give a flying fk.
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