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Regbutler
13 Aug 24 22:28
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No politics forum anymore, not that it matters anyway
Kamala Harris now odds on
When did this happen? Last time I looked, Donald was 1.5
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Report jamee1 August 13, 2024 11:25 PM BST
Last thursday there was a big shift.
Report ronnie rails August 14, 2024 7:44 AM BST
The 100/1 is looking  nice.
Ronnie.
Report Regbutler August 14, 2024 7:53 AM BST
Cheers jamee

Ronnie, you've got 100/ about Kamala?
Nice one
Laid some back or keeping it?
Report ronnie rails August 14, 2024 8:07 AM BST
Reg.
I put the bet on here on the 31 May a guy put a thread on here at the same time saying  he didn't  think Biden would stand

Hope you are well.
Ronnie.
Ps Keeping it.
Report Regbutler August 14, 2024 8:11 AM BST
Well done
Report hunt lunt and cunningham August 14, 2024 8:52 AM BST
Well done Ronnie, nice to see a good guy getting some value , and well done the mystery tipster , that's excellent thought out information
Report ronnie rails August 14, 2024 9:00 AM BST
HHAC.
Please  look at the Trump.post I have just bumped up ..Hope you are well.
Ronnie.
Report second again August 14, 2024 9:20 AM BST
I hope she wins for you Ronnie.
Report hunt lunt and cunningham August 14, 2024 9:31 AM BST
Well "askjack" whoever you are well done, incredible insight
Report ronnie rails August 14, 2024 9:33 AM BST
Second Again.
Thank you for your  very  kind words.
Hope you are well.
Ronnie.
Report top2rated August 14, 2024 9:38 AM BST
Report kingsnake5 August 14, 2024 9:45 AM BST
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Report kingsnake5 August 14, 2024 10:39 AM BST
If there were an election today I’d expect Donald Trump to win and the reasons in the above tweet explains why. We’re not at the point where I think Trump is value. Polls aren’t static, and with fewer than three months to election day there’s enough time for the polls to change either way and it could be utterly grim based on the Trump campaign, he’s not so much as using racist dog whistles as much a racist foghorn. TSE

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Report seaside August 14, 2024 10:48 AM BST
She is not putting her foot in it everything she says is from the teleprompter.
Report big dunc August 14, 2024 11:00 AM BST
When there is not much between the two
and you see
Trump preachers hate
Harris preachers happiness

i think people are now getting sick of him now, i can
see her price shortening if he stays in the race
Report GLASGOWCALLING August 14, 2024 11:08 AM BST
... Agree with Dunc, Trump supporters not happy I imagine with all his Gaffs lately.
Report Vubiant August 14, 2024 3:30 PM BST
Hard to see Trump winning from here . Guy's utterly raving and getting more unmoored from reality by the day. Vance is a loose cannon . Harris will pull in enough from the undecided 105 to get there imo. World dodge's a bullet so to speak. Grin
Report slickster August 14, 2024 3:33 PM BST
In Trump we trust.
Report Vubiant August 14, 2024 3:36 PM BST
Correction 3.30 ..undecided 10% !
Report PorcupineorPineapple August 14, 2024 3:36 PM BST
To me, the Trump campaign have pretty much taken the last few weeks off. Reckon they might still be recalibrating with the change of opponent and trying to work on a new strategy. But the point is that Harris has shortened up as she's been more or less unopposed in the narrative. Trump has to get out campaigning again soon and surely the market will take notice of that too. I don't think the contest is over by any rate.
Report mitolo August 14, 2024 3:53 PM BST
oh no porcys turned up as well

another avalanche of truth-denying bollox on the way

the kamel can barely string a sentence together and relies entirely on the team behind the scenes to help her stumble through. shes awful and would be a terrible choice but i still hope the idiot gets in to keep the other thing out
Report PorcupineorPineapple August 14, 2024 3:59 PM BST
jesus, you've started early.


No chance of any debate, just straight into the abuse I see. Good day sir.
Report chelsea girl August 14, 2024 4:01 PM BST
The debates will determine the winner, which will probably mean Trump.
Report in hell August 14, 2024 4:03 PM BST
Harris will stand and just laugh, so I'd imagine Trump will win them.

I don't think the Harris supporters really care though how she comes across and literally doesn't say a word on anything
Report askjack August 14, 2024 6:50 PM BST
I started tracking the Harris bet on the day Biden retired with dignity intact 21.07.24
Prices then:
21.07 24 the 'rump 1.62 v Harris 3.75

Steady drift the 'rump v Harris the Steamer over the weeks.

14.08.24 the 'rump 2.2 v Harris the Steamer 1.92

Current Harris Bet

Liability: £0.00

Cash Out
£690.32
Profit:
£690.53

Kamala Harris
£1,325.32   

Donald Trump
£0.21   

The rest of the other 131 runners

£08.16
Report 1st time poster August 14, 2024 7:27 PM BST
she,s got democratic convention ,followed by LAB day to keep all the MSM on her and unless trumps changes tack on to policy ,she,s going to rinse trump in TV debates,so trump needs to get all that out of the way before returning to flinging as much  mud as he can hoping alot of it sticks
Report askjack August 14, 2024 7:56 PM BST
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I'm ALL IN on Harris going all the way!

Roll on November.
Report KiddyKid August 14, 2024 9:06 PM BST
Ive been over to the states for the last month. Ive family and friends in New York and Kentucky. New Yorkers Democrats, Kentuckians Republican but all think Trump will win comfortably in November.
Report mitolo August 14, 2024 10:18 PM BST
i follow a couple of accounts on twix that i strongly suspect emanate from the st petersburg ira (its officially the internet research agency) and it exists solely to spread lies and sow division in the west. its blocked in russia of course

when bidet went into meltdown they sprung into life, retweeting endlessly. but now i suspect theyd he rather was still on the ticket as he was bound to lose

expect a lot of anti-kamel stuff to appear in the next few months. putin so wants trump, its the best reason to oppose him
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 14, 2024 10:28 PM BST
people can only deposit a few hundred on mth on BF..yet on USA presidential market people have millions tied up laying 1000 the also rans.. comedy gold.
Report comingupthehill August 14, 2024 10:31 PM BST
Given the state of their elections,it’s not impossible one of these could win on a technical knock out.

I had a tenner on the speaker after the riots last time,has she would have had to stand in as president until it was sorted.

1000/1 shots do win.usa elections are crazy.
Report dave1357 August 14, 2024 10:57 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps • August 14, 2024 10:28 PM BST
British people can only deposit a few hundred on mth on BF.


fyp
Report Storm Alert August 15, 2024 7:01 AM BST
After the BS Trump came out with in the Musk interview, even the thickest rednecks must be doubting his sanity!  "I said to Vladimir Putin, 'Don’t do it. You can’t do it, Vladimir. If you do it, it’s going to be a bad day. You cannot do it.’ And I told him what I’d do. He said, 'No way,'  I said, 'Way.'"

The language of a childish teenager. Rumour is he had just watched Waynes World...
Report slickster August 15, 2024 2:13 PM BST
Trump wins election hands down. Very easy to see in all honesty.
Report Eddie Batt August 15, 2024 2:37 PM BST
Harris getting a soft time from the media at the moment -she will probably win their first debate.Have no doubts that Trump is the old dog for the hard Road -think Hardy Eustace and Harchibald.Six weeks ago Harris was considered a failure as vice president.Have no doubts that Trump will trade at odds on again.
Report in hell August 15, 2024 2:44 PM BST
Listening to a few podcast and the media is overdrive with Harris and a lot of the polls are outdated and around 2 weeks behind, Trump trades odds on again in the next 7 days imo
Report Jack Bauer "24" August 15, 2024 3:05 PM BST
Trump fanboys are so uninformed and will continue to back their hero but he is heading for another humiliating defeat on this current trajectory.
Report Gagging August 15, 2024 3:14 PM BST
Trump should be toast - regardless of the politics
Report stewarts rise August 15, 2024 3:46 PM BST
Thread title should have stopped at Trump gone Odd.
Report PorcupineorPineapple August 15, 2024 3:52 PM BST
Harris has gone from 1.93 > 1.88 on here through today.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 15, 2024 4:03 PM BST
Trump seems to have dementia, thinks he's been president, not Biden.

How did they get into this mess.
Report spyker August 15, 2024 4:44 PM BST
At no point in any campaign or in any actual election has Trump come close to 50%+ in polls (i'm not talking about individual polls for Fox etc btw!). In a normal election year Trump (or any candidate obv) could get something like 20m less votes and still win. He could 'lose' by 3-4% and still win the election.
In a normal year the GOP  wood easily pick up the Senate and increase the maj in hor as its pretty favourable to them - well the tiny % of non gerrymandered and therefore competitive seats up for grabs favours the gop this cycle. However it seems Harris is even affecting that and a dem trifecta has gone from 'remote' to 'def possible'.
Aaaand people haven't even got stuck in to 'Project 25' yet!
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 15, 2024 11:36 PM BST
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1824194532390617154?s=19

..

Plain
Report The Knight August 16, 2024 10:37 AM BST
Watching Trump repeatedly ramble on about how nothing bad would have happened anywhere else in the world had he remained as President in 2020 is becoming amusing.


Then, on the day the US stock market rose 657 points he said the US was close to a Depression!

What Trump has forgotten is that no mater how much you slate your opponent, you still also have to say what you intend to do if you win. But, I agree with another poster.

How the US has got itself in this mess is beyond me. A current president who sadly seems on the verge of dementia, a male candidate (Trump) who really must be the most stupid man in the US - and that is not a high bar - and a female (Harris) with a nice line in trousers suits and who is good at waving at people but has no policies!!!

God help us all.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 16, 2024 10:47 AM BST
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    Followers
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    Cults of personality often use propaganda and mass media control to exaggerate the leader's achievements and personal qualities to create a near-god-like status. They may also distort the truth and have no tolerance for questions or critical inquiry.
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Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 16, 2024 10:50 AM BST
Writing in 2013, Thomas A. Wright observed that "it is becoming evident that the charismatic leader, especially in politics, has increasingly become the product of media and self-exposure."

Focusing on the media in the United States, Robert N. Bellah added, "It is hard to determine the extent to which the media reflect the cult of personality in American politics and to what extent they have created it. Surely they did not create it all alone, but just as surely they have contributed to it. In any case, American politics is dominated by the personalities of political leaders to an extent rare in the modern world ... in the personalized politics of recent years the 'charisma' of the leader may be almost entirely a product of media exposure."
Report smartpunter August 16, 2024 11:54 AM BST
£26 million on trump still  three months  to go   just say  trump  won  how much  would Betfair make  on the   bet. unbelievable
Report Hayden August 16, 2024 12:17 PM BST
There's £50 million matched on the market so far smartpunter which is huge i agree but tbh virtually every match in the IPL Cricket would beat that for liquidity and they last less than 4 hours per match.
Report smartpunter August 16, 2024 1:51 PM BST
Well HAYDEN, ARE YOU  GOOD  AT  MATH'S. (APPROX)
Report xmoneyx August 16, 2024 6:26 PM BST
Trump chance of winning presidential election

16th of July, 2024: 72%

Now: 44%

(Polymarket)
Report askjack August 16, 2024 8:33 PM BST
Tick Hunters should make plans and watch the rollercoaster market closely.

18th September sentencing day for 'rumpy dumpty!

Lay to back the 'rump
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 16, 2024 8:49 PM BST
any bets struck?
Report aberdonia August 16, 2024 9:22 PM BST
Trump has very little chance of winning imo unless the economy really crashes....He always loses the popular vote, and is now losing in every swing state....His speeches have to be seen to be believed.....and very funny, the democrats are calling him and his running mate, weirdos....i wouldnt bet on the outcome mind, as the yanks are odd...especially the uneducated poor white working class, which is the trump core vote.
Report The Knight August 16, 2024 11:21 PM BST
Let's not forget that most elections both in the US and UK are decided by those who have no real attachment to either candidate..in other words, the undecided.

A lot of states are clearly Democrat or Republican but the swing states are where the vote is the most crucial.

Now, where Harris has an advantage is that in being an ethnic female, she will clearly appeal to many of the undecided ethnics and females.

Those who would never vote for an ethnic female are probably staunch Trump supporters all ready.

Also, Trump's bizarre ramblings will turn off many of those who are still undecided and waiting to see how the two candidates perform as the campaign hots up.

My money, and I have already bet a fair sum on it, is that Harris will win. Not by a landslide but by enough to stop Trump going on and on and on about the postal vote - which he did when defeated in 2020.
Report diabolicalliability August 17, 2024 1:52 PM BST
Head to head will decide.
Report Ramruma August 17, 2024 4:26 PM BST
Trump's only chance is as the Republican candidate.

Trump as Trump is a busted flush who has spent the last few years building up the Biden is senile narrative but against Kamala it is Trump who is 78 years old and rambling incoherently: hoist by his own petard.

But he is still the Republican candidate and so most Republican voters will hold their noses and vote for The Donald.
Report Ramruma August 17, 2024 4:43 PM BST
And God alone knows what JD Vance brings to the Republican ticket. Even Trump is said to be despairing of his VP pick running mate.
Report yak hunt August 17, 2024 4:47 PM BST
Both VPs have been incredibly helpful...to Harris.
Report Ramruma August 18, 2024 9:11 AM BST
On which note, Trump's next problem might be that voters start wondering what happens if JD Vance has to take over the presidency. Vance is tied to Project 2025 which Trump has been trying to distance himself from as too extreme.
Report xmoneyx August 19, 2024 5:15 PM BST
(Trump | Harris)

AZ (44% | 43%)
FL (48% | 43%)
GA (46% | 46%)
MI (45% | 44%)
MN (40% | 47%)
NV (43% | 42%)
Report hologon August 20, 2024 10:49 PM BST
And Trump is fav.again
Report aberdonia August 20, 2024 11:15 PM BST
the democrats have been outpolling the polls by 9% in actual elections.

trump will lose the popular vote by several million....His only hope is the
batty electoral college where he wins 4 or 5 states by very small margins.

i cant see him winning, but i would be betting on my opinion..
And he is an utter moron.
Report aberdonia August 20, 2024 11:16 PM BST
*wont be betting on my opinion.
Report yak hunt August 21, 2024 7:48 AM BST
Apparently, Trump is favourite again because it is rumoured that Kennedy is going to drop out of the race and endorse Trump.
Report spyker August 21, 2024 12:58 PM BST
That's what his VP nom says. I've no idea how that helps Trump much more than Harris tho as Ken support roughly 40/60 H/Tr (leaning to Trump anyway) and those dems who would vote dem/Ken almost certainly won't vote dem/trump. I'd ignore all polls until about 10days before tbh! I'm really not sure where Trump gains from here unless a huge mistake by Harris,
Report Angela Rebecchi August 21, 2024 1:31 PM BST
Harris is pretty awful off prompter and the big wave will die down. That said, Trump is a bit of a mess compared to his messages 8 years ago which were on point and well delivered to his supporters. If Trump brings back his 2016 energy then you could see him doing what he did to HRC, winning the election but losing the popular vote.

We could have had a more competent race in Pete Buttigieg vs Ron DeSantis but here we are again with 2 horrific candidates.
Report the old nanny ;-) August 21, 2024 1:37 PM BST
We could have had a more competent race in Pete Buttigieg vs Ron DeSantis but here we are again with 2 horrific candidates.

Spot on
Report the old nanny ;-) August 21, 2024 1:41 PM BST
The thread on Politics was comedy gold , the Politics  judges  piling in to bet Biden

A couple of them on here  must have done their absolutes , if they actually place a bet that is .
Report bellico August 21, 2024 2:17 PM BST
Trump starting to sound very strange even by his own bizarre standards, Harris should say as little as possible and just let trump keep rambling on
Report spyker August 21, 2024 2:22 PM BST
She should take her sudoko to the debates and just let him rip!
Report xmoneyx August 21, 2024 4:30 PM BST
Chances of winning
Report xmoneyx August 21, 2024 4:32 PM BST
Chances of winning US Presidential Election

Trump: 51% chance
Harris: 49% chance

(Based on polls and prediction markets)

democratic convention chicago hasn't moved the polls
Report yak hunt August 21, 2024 9:48 PM BST

Aug 21, 2024 -- 12:58PM, spyker wrote:


That's what his VP nom says. I've no idea how that helps Trump much more than Harris tho as Ken support roughly 40/60 H/Tr (leaning to Trump anyway) and those dems who would vote dem/Ken almost certainly won't vote dem/trump. I'd ignore all polls until about 10days before tbh! I'm really not sure where Trump gains from here unless a huge mistake by Harris,


I don't see Trump getting a significant advantage with Kennedy dropping out either.

Report Regbutler August 23, 2024 10:27 PM BST
BBC showing their bias as usual

Fawning over Harris and criticising Trump on the news

Both parties guilty of something I find hilarious
On the stage at the rallies they pretend to point out a particular person in the audience, as though they're an old friend and feign excitement, to make it a look like a personal thing
I'm sure it's a thing they are coached to do
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