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T0te problems?

Regbutler

27 Jul 24 10:06

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Can't do any placepots on Bet356
Been on live chat, might as well not bothered, was told it's a traders decision!!!
No it's not, obviously a technical issue

Where's Westberks when you want him?

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morpteh mackem When: 27 Jul 24 10:11

have you tried doing pp on bf exchange ?

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 10:19

Just looked, MM thanks, it's on there so maybe just Bet356
I'll wait for a while cos don't like the BF interface

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morpteh mackem When: 27 Jul 24 10:49

Jul 27, 2024 -- 10:19AM, Regbutler wrote:

Just looked, MM thanks, it's on there so maybe just Bet356I'll wait for a while cos don't like the BF interface

np, i had a go at putting dummy one in and looked ok ( didnt press ok button though )

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 11:02

Yeah, MM, I'll wait until the last minute then use BF one if I have to

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 12:13

Fixed now

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 12:28

Ignore that not fixed at all

BF site backup for me

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 13:06

Just gone onto the T0te own site
It gives a breakdown of the units which I hadn't seen before

At the moment, 15 minutes before the first at Ascot, the guaranteed 150k pot is broken down as 80k public money, 70k "T0te own seeded money"

At York with an hour to go, 100k guaranteed pot is split 45k/55k

I had no idea they were putting in nearly half the money, just thought it was topping up

Makes the whole seeding thing worse than I previously thought

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morpteh mackem When: 27 Jul 24 13:21

Jul 27, 2024 -- 1:06PM, Regbutler wrote:

Just gone onto the T0te own siteIt gives a breakdown of the units which I hadn't seen beforeAt the moment, 15 minutes before the first at Ascot, the guaranteed 150k pot is broken down as 80k public money, 70k "T0te own seeded money"At York with an hour to go, 100k guaranteed pot is split 45k/55kI had no idea they were putting in nearly half the money, just thought it was topping upMakes the whole seeding thing worse than I previously thought

never realised that, hmmmmmmm

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SlippyBlue When: 27 Jul 24 13:29

Ascot pot total is £194.393.84.

So I'm assuming that there was no need to seed it. Could be wrong but that seems a logical decision.

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 13:38

Don't know at what time they do the seeding, slippy
But as I said, 15 minutes before the off they had put 70k in themselves

194k minus 70k equals 124k
So I guess if they had waited until the last minute could have just done 26k to take it up to the 150k guaranteed

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jamee1 When: 27 Jul 24 13:41

I would guess the level of seeded money reduces as the 'public' money grows. Presumably once the 'public' money reached £150k the seeded money became zero.

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 13:44

Forget that, slippy
I went by your 194k figure, but that is the net figure
There is actually 266k in units... Gross figure

So, no, there was no need to seed today

Hmmm, as Morpeth said

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 13:46

Jamee, no I don't think so
Once they've put the seeding money in they're not taking it out as the real money replaces it

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jamee1 When: 27 Jul 24 13:48

As the "today's units" grows the "Tote top-up" decreases.

It's happening right now for York with Guaranteed £100k pool.

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jamee1 When: 27 Jul 24 13:49

2 mins later...

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 13:50

Ignore that, jamee, I'm learning a lot today
You maybe correct

The York pot has come down from 55 to 27 as the real money grows

So those seeding figures must have been potential
Wasn't clear on the site

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Regbutler When: 27 Jul 24 13:53

I was writing at the same time as you, jamee

You are right

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jamee1 When: 27 Jul 24 13:57

Jul 27, 2024 -- 1:50PM, Regbutler wrote:

Ignore that, jamee, I'm learning a lot todayYou maybe correctThe York pot has come down from 55 to 27 as the real money growsSo those seeding figures must have been potentialWasn't clear on the site

There's likely never any Tote money added into the pool until it closes. At this point if they need to bump it up they probably extrapolate the "public" money splits up to the guaranteed value. eg if the "public" money made up exactly £50k on a £100k guaranteed pool they would match everyone's bets exactly.

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morpteh mackem When: 27 Jul 24 13:59

any chance tote w/s can show in running updates ????

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SlippyBlue When: 27 Jul 24 17:45

Ascot paid £191.60, I thought that was a bit disappointing really given the results.
I broke exactly levels in the end.

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morpteh mackem When: 27 Jul 24 17:46

Jul 27, 2024 -- 5:45PM, SlippyBlue wrote:

Ascot paid £191.60, I thought that was a bit disappointing really given the results.I broke exactly levels in the end.

york was a canny dividend 2.3k

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