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Deary me what a mess…

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By:
leif
When: 24 Jul 24 20:00
78 years of age.

Glittering career as a renowned trainer, much of it at the top table.

always has to end at some point.
By:
formoftheace
When: 24 Jul 24 20:04
Not in this way…
By:
elisjohn
When: 24 Jul 24 20:06
agree , had to end at some point,  God help us when John Gosden actually goes , Coolmore will then have an open goal
By:
elisjohn
When: 24 Jul 24 20:13
ps what a stable over the years ,  Shergar no1 .1,000 Guineas – (2) – Musical Bliss (1989), Russian Rhythm (2003)
2,000 Guineas – (5) – Shadeed (1985), Doyoun (1988), Entrepreneur (1997), King's Best (2000), Golan (2001)
Ascot Gold Cup – (2) – Shangamuzo (1978), Estimate (2013)
Champion Hurdle – (1) – Kribensis (1990)
Champion Stakes – (3) – Pilsudski (1997), Kalanisi (2000), Bay Bridge (2022)
Cheveley Park Stakes – (3) – Marwell (1980), Gay Gallanta (1994), Regal Rose (2000)
Commonwealth Cup - (1) - Eqtidaar (2018)
Coronation Cup – (5) – Saddlers' Hall (1992), Opera House (1993), Singspiel (1997), Daliapour (2000), Ask (2009)
Coronation Stakes – (4) – Sonic Lady (1986), Milligram (1987), Exclusive (1998), Russian Rhythm (2003)
Christmas Hurdle - (2) - Kribensis (1988, 1989)
Derby – (6) – Shergar (1981), Shahrastani (1986), Kris Kin (2003), North Light (2004), Workforce (2010), Desert Crown (2022)
Dewhurst Stakes – (1) – Ajdal (1986)
Diamond Jubilee Stakes - (1) - Dream of Dreams (2021)
Eclipse Stakes – (6) – Opera House (1993), Ezzoud (1994), Pilsudski (1997), Medicean (2001), Notnowcato (2007), Ulysses (2017)
Falmouth Stakes – (6) – Royal Heroine (1983), Sonic Lady (1986, 1987), Lovers Knot (1998), Integral (2014), Veracious (2019)
Fighting Fifth Hurdle - (1) - Kribensis (1989)
Fillies' Mile – (2) – Untold (1985), Red Bloom (2003)
Diamond Jubilee Stakes – (1) – Dafayna (1985)
Haydock Sprint Cup – (3) – Green Desert (1986), Ajdal (1987), Dream of Dreams (2020)
International Stakes – (6) – Shardari (1986), Ezzoud (1993, 1994), Singspiel (1997), Notnowcato (2006), Ulysses (2017)
July Cup – (3) – Marwell (1981), Green Desert (1986), Ajdal (1987)
King George VI and Queen Elizabeth Stakes – (6) – Shergar (1981), Opera House (1993), Golan (2002), Conduit (2009), Harbinger (2010), Poet's Word (2018)
King's Stand Stakes – (1) – Marwell (1981)
Lockinge Stakes – (8) – Scottish Reel (1986), Safawan (1990), Soviet Line (1995, 1996), Medicean (2001), Russian Rhythm (2004), Peeress (2006), Mustashry (2019)
Nassau Stakes – (7) – Triple First (1977), Optimistic Lass (1984), Kartajana (1990), Hawajiss (1994), Islington (2002), Russian Rhythm (2003), Favourable Terms (2004)
Nunthorpe Stakes – (2) – Blue Cashmere (1974), Ajdal (1987)
Oaks – (2) – Fair Salinia (1978), Unite (1987)
Prince of Wales's Stakes – (4) – Hard Fought (1981), Stagecraft (1991), Poet's Word (2018), Crystal Ocean (2019)
Queen Anne Stakes – (3) – Kalanisi (2000), Medicean (2001), No Excuse Needed (2002)
Queen Elizabeth II Stakes – (3) – Shadeed (1985), Milligram (1987), Zilzal (1989)
Racing Post Trophy – (1) – Dilshaan (2000)
St. James's Palace Stakes – (1) – Shaadi (1989)
St. Leger Stakes – (1) – Conduit (2008)
Sun Chariot Stakes – (4) – Triple First (1977), Kartajana (1990), Peeress (2005), Integral (2014)
Sussex Stakes – (3) – Sonic Lady (1986), Zilzal (1989), Among Men (1998)
Triumph Hurdle - (1) - Kribensis (1988)
Yorkshire Oaks – (9) – Fair Salinia (1978), Sally Brown (1985), Untold (1986), Hellenic (1990), Pure Grain (1995), Petrushka (2000), Islington (2002, 2003), Quiff (2004)
Canada Canada

Canadian International Stakes – (3) – Singspiel (1996), Hillstar (2014), Cannock Chase (2015)
E.P. Taylor Stakes – (1) – Ivor's Image (1986)
France France

Grand Prix de Saint-Cloud – (3) – Gamut (2004), Mountain High (2007), Spanish Moon (2009)
Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe – (1) – Workforce (2010)
Prix du Moulin de Longchamp – (1) – Sonic Lady (1986)
Prix de l'Abbaye de Longchamp – (1) – Marwell (1981)
Prix de l'Opéra – (4) – Royal Heroine (1983), Bella Colora (1985), Petrushka (2000), Zee Zee Top (2003)
Prix Royal-Oak – (2) – Allegretto (2007), Ask (2009)
Germany Germany

Bayerisches Zuchtrennen – (2) – Greek Dance (2000), Linngari (2008)
Grosser Preis von Baden – (1) – Pilsudski (1996)
Hong Kong Hong Kong

Hong Kong Bowl – (1) – Soviet Line (1994)
Hong Kong Vase – (1) – Daliapour (2000)
Republic of Ireland Ireland

Irish 1,000 Guineas – (1) – Sonic Lady (1986)
Irish 2,000 Guineas – (1) – Shaadi (1989)
Irish Champion Stakes – (2) – Cézanne (1994), Pilsudski (1997)
Irish Derby – (3) – Shergar (1981), Shareef Dancer (1983), Shahrastani (1986)
Irish Oaks – (6) – Fair Salinia (1978), Colorspin (1986), Unite (1987), Melodist (1988, dead heat), Pure Grain (1995), Petrushka (2000)
Matron Stakes – (2) – Favourable Terms (2003), Echelon (2007)
Pretty Polly Stakes – (1) – Promising Lead (2008)
Tattersalls Gold Cup – (2) – Opera House (1992), Notnowcato (2007)
Italy Italy

Gran Criterium - (1) - Northern Tempest (1983)
Oaks d'Italia – (2) – Ivor's Image (1986), Melodist (1988)
Japan Japan

Japan Cup – (2) – Singspiel (1996), Pilsudski (1997)     And all this when racing was competitive at the top not like these days , he challenged cecil, harwood, hern,vincent , too name a few of true greats
By:
swiftynifty
When: 24 Jul 24 20:13
Incrdeible trainer over the years but not sure why he's hanging on, he's said he doesn't get that kick any more.
By:
sparrow
When: 24 Jul 24 20:18
Possibly keeping going out of loyalty to his staff.
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 24 Jul 24 20:31
he lost his long term partner some years back as I recall. He may simply be carrying ion to keep himself busy. One would hope he has a last hurrah but, Passenger aside, it is difficult to see him having much chance in G1 - 3 races this season .
By:
elisjohn
When: 24 Jul 24 20:39
him and cecil top of their game 80s onwards , whaw,
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 24 Jul 24 20:43
Sir Michael Stoute: 'I still enjoy it but probably not as much as I ever did - it can't be much longer'

https://www.racingpost.com/news/features/the-big-read/sir-michael-stoute-i-still-enjoy-it-but-probably-not-as-much-as-i-ever-did-it-cant-be-much-longer-aHRpm0H1aAOD/

^ behind a paywall
By:
comingupthehill
When: 24 Jul 24 20:53
Broke his heart when whispering death moved back to West Indies,
By:
elisjohn
When: 24 Jul 24 21:00
i do remember a few years back, he sent a fav ( cant recall the name ) to the irish derby , and was bullied out of the race by a barrage of ccoolmore bullies, and vowed never to run a horse there again .
By:
windsor knot
When: 24 Jul 24 21:17
great list elisjohn. brought back some memories alright !
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 24 Jul 24 21:48
fall of fartys funds.



Deary me what a mess…
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 25 Jul 24 06:51
Deary me what a mess...

From Barbados, coming over here, stealing a career and livelihood from a British trainer.

Must make you right sick.
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 Jul 24 07:36
whatan era   , stoute, cumani, harwood,tree,cecil. brittain, hern,cole,hannon, wragg , and then piggott, eddery, starkey, swinburn, carson, roberts, cauthen, mercer,     what a list (and i know ive forgotten a few out ), to the mediocre of today
By:
lead on
When: 25 Jul 24 07:57
Add to that list many of the old money knowledgeable owners and owner breeders,elisjohn...
By:
lead on
When: 25 Jul 24 08:02
I think that Desert Crown was the breaking of his heart...I always felt he was going to be his"Frankel"...a King George day without a Stoute horse would have been unthinkable ..I may be wrong but his only entry I see for Saturday is Passenger at York..
By:
formoftheace
When: 25 Jul 24 10:00
Somerset Sam 25 Jul 24 06:51 
Deary me what a mess...

From Barbados, coming over here, stealing a career and livelihood from a British trainer.

Must make you right sick.

Don’t be silly you won’t see a bigger supporter of the great trainer than myself…..since the Fair Salinia days…

The great man Jonjo who graced the forum would justify….
By:
formoftheace
When: 25 Jul 24 10:00
Rico-Dangleflaps 24 Jul 24 21:48 
fall of fartys funds.



Deary me what a mess…

Irrelevant comment from pellet @rse…
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 25 Jul 24 10:10

Jul 25, 2024 -- 10:00AM, formoftheace wrote:


Somerset Sam 25 Jul 24 06:51

By:
formoftheace
When: 25 Jul 24 10:36
Ffs
By:
johnnyrant
When: 25 Jul 24 14:23
Desert Crown could have been a great. He has Passenger who looks a top notch G1 10f horse on fast ground. That's probably enough to keep the flame burning. Just hope he doesn't succumb to injury as tragically happened to DC.
By:
chavman
When: 25 Jul 24 14:43
Irrelevant comment from pellet @rse…

^^^^^^^^^^^
Nice work
By:
formoftheace
When: 25 Jul 24 15:09
Stoute - Cecil - Dunlop - Hills - the list is endless of the golden years…

Up pops Godolphin and Coolmore…..each to their own ….
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 Jul 24 15:27
christ how did i miss John Dunlop out of my list, a massive fav of mine, and  Salsabil , and of course B hills, another trainer jockey combo i liked was thompson jones and murray, chappel hyam and reid , my word we were spoilt
By:
formoftheace
When: 25 Jul 24 15:29
Never be the same again elisjohn….
By:
Trendy
When: 25 Jul 24 18:51
Not a trainer i could warm too,always seemed a bit arrogant when interviewed,has been an excellent trainer though.
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 25 Jul 24 18:51
something to look forward to there
By:
formoftheace
When: 25 Jul 24 18:52
A welcome winner for the great man…..
By:
SlippyBlue
When: 25 Jul 24 18:52
That'll cheer him up a bit.
By:
mitolo
When: 25 Jul 24 18:55
the royal dalton of cisterns
By:
elisjohn
When: 25 Jul 24 18:57
at least didnt take much **** from that chapman clown
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 27 Jul 24 17:47
and now he looks as though he has lost Passenger. They do seem to have a lot serious of injuries. Shocking luck
By:
clouded leopard
When: 27 Jul 24 18:00
What's up with Passenger ?
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 27 Jul 24 18:01
fractured something in it's leg. Just reported by Hannity at York
By:
clouded leopard
When: 27 Jul 24 18:02
17.5 laid for Juddmonte
By:
clouded leopard
When: 27 Jul 24 18:02
ok tks DP

Sham looked v good previous run
By:
clouded leopard
When: 27 Jul 24 18:02
*shame
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