Is Tudhope a cheat?

Should be investigated imo over whats happened today

they have to check who was laying that.

Windsor a long way South for a Northern jock.

Record poor:- 1 win from 15 rides.

IMO he would lose his licence in most countries little or no effort to either horse the 1/3 poke was ridden like a no hoper, in Hong Kong quite likely physical harm would be administered on the way back to the stables. The stewards surely have to act on that ride in the 18.20

Certainly in Hong Kong he would be in big trouble

unfortuately i backed both earlier(1.74 and 1.42) so pocket talking i suppose but agree with previous posters. Bold Impact seemed to be hard held by the line, so nearly caught out by not letting the winner get far enough ahead. Made no mistake with Under Seige though,immediately took pull to drop to last and then took another pull to drop it out completely, 3 lengths out the back. But we all know the skullduggery that goes on. We just hope we are not on the ones that are 'not wanted at the moment'.
Expensive £3.5k lesson. Not the first time(with Spudcoke it is) and defo won't be the last(With Spudcke it will be lol)

"Following the race, Daniel Tudhope reported that UNDER SIEGE (IRE), placed third, was slowly away"

Stewards inquired into the ride. So Mr Tudhope, do you have anything to add to your "slowly away" comment?  Do you think you should have made an effort to lay up with the leaders?  Are you satisfied that you gave the horse every possible opportunity to do its best?   Answers came there none. Well actually questions came there none.  No enquiry for a 30/100 favourite!!!!

i'm confused.  he told Matt Chapman it was because he injured his leg exiting the starting stalls.  he couldn't therefore ride the horse and to show how severe the injury was he gave up his ride in the following race.  but when questioned by the stewards he merely explained that the horse was slowly away ??

Hulk, he wasnt questioned by the stewards! Here merely reported at scales that the horse was slowly away. Why he did not report his injury if that was material to his performance is beyond me, as is the lack of a stewards given the quality (sic) of the ride.

Part of the trouble in horse racing is that there are so many pocket-talking jockey bashers out there on this forum, in the Twittersphere, that when there is a truly filthy ride (like in the 18:20 Windsor tonight), it's not really news or that big a deal any more.

The boy that cried wolf and all that.

Waste Management…..

You have to laugh,certainly made me chuckle last night noticing on another…lol

Oh, how we laughed.

I hadn't laughed so hard, since you stopped updating your P&L.

So flabbergasted was I by Tudhope's so obvious double non-trier antics that I felt compelled to rejoin the BF forum after a self-imposed exile to express my concern at the path horseracing seems to be hellbent on - recreating the rampant cheating of the seventies. How can this blatant unsophisticated corruption go unpunished?
My question to the Forum is why haven't the sport's journos sought the reaction of the respective trainers - Beckett and, especially Balding, the latter having a chequered history as regards hotpots getting turned over. Was either trainer satisfied with the ride given? Their feet will not be held to the fire as the gravy-slurpers don't want to derail the train!

do people really think he intentionally stopped a 1/3 fav?

why didn't he report being injured and unable to ride the horse properly at the scales ?  is that not more material than being 'slowly away'.  couple minutes later he remembers he's injured and reports it to Matt Chapman so he can relay it to all and sundry who were rightly questioning the ride, including Chappers himself (although he has to be careful how he questions it).

imo if people knew that wernt winning it wouldnt have still been 1.4 after 2f..but it looked iffy i concur.

Didn't ride in 3 races after,signed off RMO.

sticking a worthwhile wodge in early doors is going to light up like a fookin beacon ... £4 here, £3 there.  oh look, someone's offering 20 grand the fav at evens.

ive seen plenty being laid as soon as race is off..lots are blatant..greed overcomes.

Due to ride 2 at  Beverley today
One for O'Meara in a 2m hcap that finished last of 7 lto
The other, a debutant for Karl Burke that's been backed for small into 2nd fav

That's if he recovers from his leg injury of course

Oddly always thought Tudhope looks like Mulrennan - could be brothers.

When the Levy yield is dependent on bookmakers profits then a blind eye (by the Authorities) to favourites getting turned over by a few dodgy rides is to be expected.

Sad but true.

Re why wouldn't he stop a 1/3 shot, these are some lads that don't think in terms of consequences and would do anything for a few bob.Both rides were truly awful and he should get a ban.

bradley stopped a 1 to 7 chance or something  in a small field in plain sight didnt he, bit like saying why does a billionaire try and avoid paying  tax

Absolutely

When the Levy yield is dependent on bookmakers profits then a blind eye (by the Authorities) to favourites getting turned over by a few dodgy rides is to be expected.

Sad but true.

I could say more about this statement, but I cant!

in fact some soppy lad
SAYING WHY WOULD THEY ?

is probably number one reason they do
rugby bloodgate,tour de drugs cheats, people joining in marathons half a mile from finish, irish swimmer, johynson the sprinter,the list is endless and they do it BECAUSE THEY CAN

Adam Rusling , Louis Walker ,a few BRITISH ones just to level things out 1st time...

Timescape is a decent horse in the first 2:30 Beverley. Tudhope will Not be giving it an educated ride for this yard!

You will not see a better looking filly in the paddock this week than Timescape

Thanks Trident for that, I was going to back it but with him not sure to give her his full assistance I'll leave it...

has his leg recovered in 18hours?

Jul 16, 2024 -- 2:27PM, workrider wrote:

Thanks Trident for that, I was going to back it but with him not sure to give her his full assistance I'll leave it...

Glad you didnt get involved?! Slowly away and on the rail, one to watch for me, even after a poor performance!

Trident 16 Jul 24 14:25 
You will not see a better looking filly in the paddock this week than Timescape


good call.

You will not see a better looking filly in the paddock this week than Timescape


good call.

In fairness to Daniel, that filly looked useless and I don't know where they were going with that Lowther entry. The Burke horse in the nursery didn't run great either, but that Magna Grecia must be the worst sire around.

2.52 Scoops Ahoy for our boy

Jul 16, 2024 -- 2:25PM, Trident wrote:

You will not see a better looking filly in the paddock this week than Timescape

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ken Pitterson found.

Most prob can explain after he wins the 2.52

6 rides today.  did anyone see the medical officers report concerning that injury he picked up the other night ?  the recovery has been incredible.

btw, injured his leg coming out the stalls, never looked down once the whole race.  broke me leg once, pretty sure i looked down at some point.

the recovery has been incredible

it's almost as if, well, it's almost as if there was nothing wrong with him.  can't quite work it out ....

as toyah once said ... it's a mishterree

They have all angles covered....they aint daft you know

I can't imagine a stable like Karl Burke's being anything other than straight.

How would the forum react if he took a bad fall ? Just curious….