92 year old pensioner - check this

Hope they are named and shamed in the local press, or Facebook or whatever people use these days

I don’t know if the old boy suffers from anything but it’s not the first time (allegedly)…..

My father or family it would be trading standard to investigate…..

Wouldn't bother with Trading Standards to start with...
I'd visit myself to ask them to justify it... And take it from there

Is it even worth them still running a car? 90+ is pushing it anyway.

Cider, there's a couple of old boys I know from the bookies about the same age...
Both still driving and do a max of 10 miles a week
They both part exchange their car for another brand new one every 2 or 3 years!!!
Use the same dealer they've trusted(!!??) for years
But, they've got the money so....

Both do 10p ew lucky15 each day, and always favs....

Probably a realistic cost if its
a
BMW
MERC
ROLLER
ASTON
PORSCHE

Must admit, didn't know someone would be allowed to drive at 92

Still awful from that garage though - shouldn't be allowed that sort of cost for that.

I guess it's looking at the situation in the round. Nobody wants to give up their car, but even the most spritely and alert person aged 90+ is going to be a moderate driver at best. The reality is that a disaster is never too far away.

My brother has worked at some bad RTAs and sadly it is often very elderly drivers at cause of them.

Not many garages the public can trust….my local is fine but in the past you can tell when you ask to see the removed part…

my last service & fix cost me 2500 and im not 92

E TYPE?

no my daily, ive sold my classics

The one in question is a small hatchback…….

My brother has worked at some bad RTAs and sadly it is often very elderly drivers at cause of them. - Is it?

Older generation are more careful

concur with lucky..wing mirror from dealer £1200 and £120 a hr labour.

At my local Mini/BMW dealer
Hourly rate is £170 hr plus vat
Was only £100 last December

Local garage i use £35 per hour.

Old boy's family should do now what they should have done years ago: bin off the car and set him up an Uber account. If he's only doing a few miles a week, it will be cheaper and easier, and the question of whether he is safe to drive does not even arise.

As to the bill, the question is whether they are robbing him blind by grossly overcharging, or whether it is that he agreed to a series of repairs that made no economic sense given the value of the car. There's a lot of insurance write-offs being legitimately driven as bangers because the cost of full repairs is more than the resale value of the car.

He's told me some ridiculous stories Statsman - drivers who could barely see, let alone drive, smashing into oncoming cars at speed etc...

Yes, I'm sure older drivers are less generally reckless in some sense, but we all decrease in ability over time.

Ramruma 01 Jul 24 14:11 
Old boy's family should do now what they should have done years ago: bin off the car and set him up an Uber account. If he's only doing a few miles a week, it will be cheaper and easier, and the question of whether he is safe to drive does not even arise.

As to the bill, the question is whether they are robbing him blind by grossly overcharging, or whether it is that he agreed to a series of repairs that made no economic sense given the value of the car. There's a lot of insurance write-offs being legitimately driven as bangers because the cost of full repairs is more than the resale value of the car.

Good points.I for one will bin my car long before the age…

You should refuse to pay it F4rty!

Show them your P&L for a bit of sympathy imo.

Unfortunately we are at the mercy of all garages and tradesmen….some customers just accept it ….

The Management 01 Jul 24 14:21 
You should refuse to pay it F4rty!

Show them your P&L for a bit of sympathy imo.

Aye !

Comes in very handy for these circumstances ...

     

You should refuse to pay it F4rty!

Show them your P&L for a bit of sympathy imo.

The algorithms definitely show that drivers regress with age, as premiums start to increase again at old age.

I agree with Rico ^^

Without the year make  model and engine , milage, and what work was carried out it's pointless.

Could have failed mot on emmisions due to low reg milage and needed a whole host of work
Could have needed a timming belt ect ect in line with milage/age

Some low milage cars driven by older peeps can be problematic, don't fully turn steering often, don't press brakes very hard leading to them needing removed and cleaned up, freed off, Labour very costly now.

The old Italian tune up... Some truth in it.

Not long ago I got a new back spring replacement,full service and MOT for less than a monkey…..and asked to see the broken spring…..no problem…

breadnbutter 01 Jul 24 15:19 
Without the year make  model and engine , milage, and what work was carried out it's pointless.

Could have failed mot on emmisions due to low reg milage and needed a whole host of work
Could have needed a timming belt ect ect in line with milage/age

Some low milage cars driven by older peeps can be problematic, don't fully turn steering often, don't press brakes very hard leading to them needing removed and cleaned up, freed off, Labour very costly now.

The old Italian tune up... Some truth in it

Timing belts are now replaced over 100k nowadays on most cars…

Hundred thousand kilometres….used to be 60 thousand..

It's 60k miles or a set time whatever comes first  ,so what?                          why not just say  what model the car is and what milage it has.


I know full well the service intervals and they vary, stop being a prat.

Robin bashtards,mind you nobody over 90 should be anywhere near the steering wheel of a car....I nearly got ran over by a dittery old facker in there 80s.

Try stopping an oldie from driving!

Most of the old codgers have never had an accident in here life's .....But caused plenty.

there life even.

breadnbutter 01 Jul 24 15:52 
It's 60k miles or a set time whatever comes first  ,so what?                          why not just say  what model the car is and what milage it has.


I know full well the service intervals and they vary, stop being a prat

VW Skoda hatchback ……just a normal service and MOT with repair as mentioned…prat

All about whay you think you should pay and if you are being ripped off

Latter imv

Derv?

Yes

Anyone over 65 should have to re-take their test every 2 years, as well as an eye test. They are a danger to everyone, letting them drive EV's is utter madness.

Never owned a car in my life and drove for a living too.

CHAUFFEUR!!!

Getaway driver?

Me thinks not enough miles getting done, VAG the wurstest if not  going through regen every 200 or so miles  choking up the egr, dpf issues, diesel in engine oil ect ect.

Take it for a decent run every 2 weeks, maybe you know all that but they a nightmare, he needs to get rid and get a petrol.

Is it for sale?  Pm me.

75 my car will be binned……tankers the length and breadth of the Uk for 33 years most of the carnage witnessed was young generation…..blind summit,hair pin too fast and mad overtaking resulting in thumping head on….

ImSoLuckyLucky! 01 Jul 24 16:35 
CHAUFFEUR!!!
acey deucy 01 Jul 24 16:36 
Getaway driver?





Bus Driver.

Same bloke selling racing tips with lifetime subscription only a fiver

I do not do garages. I take it to a working mechanic doing it in his own time or a retired one working for beer money. The work is excellent, and I pay more than the asking price eg a full service is £30 - I buy the parts; £20 fee to change one rear wheel bearing.

Some years ago I took my car into 2 garages for MOT; one kept me waiting for ages, the other refused to pass my car if I did not pay (£10) for the number plate bulb he replaced. But, he refused to show me the blown bulb. I paid as it was not local.

A lot of them grumble impossible when you ask for the old part…..tells you everything tbf

^^ The bloke said he threw it away. And, I told him (I was at the garage) how ironic I only checked it yesterday; I just wanted him to know I knew his game.

Lot of medical experts on here. if they're not, how do they know how old is too old to drive?
It depends on the individual anyway. Many drivers are never safe to drive at any age.
The Queen was seen driving at the age of 95. The Duke was 97 when he packed up driving.
Everybody is different.

Aye The Duke.

He did shout ''get out the bloody way''

Well he might if he'd seen them.

Probably drunk.

I'm not sure about garages unable to produce old, broken parts. I've heard surgeons express frustration at patients who demand their appendixes or whatever has been lopped off. Broken stuff gets thrown away. It might be a con but that would not be my first thought.

I mean charging £10 for a small bulb without producing the faulty part was definitely iffy esp when the car owner was in the waiting room. On reflection the place was definitely dodgy. I saw latecomers - I was told I was 2nd in line - having the cars MOTd before mine (I'd see the cars entering the garage where I was waiting).

But, nevermind it was only MOT for a car; businesses operated by dodgy characters are everywhere.

Whe I was around 70 , my peripheral vision defect was picked up by my Optician , they forwarded the tests to the DVLA , who decided no license . It took a year of further tests of various kinds from medical facilities to get them to agree to a Driver Test at a DVLA facility . That was a two morning affair , various seated intelligence/advanced child puzzle types of test often with distractions , plus brake reaction speed in simulator to lights in different places on morning 1 . Morning two was unfamiliar car , two instructors , one in front one in back making notes for 50minutes in an unfamiliar area with odd comments like ' name of road coming up on left (there was a sign ) . We finished with usual eyesight test and a bit of reversing . Result ...' Your tests were great and you drove flawlessly ' my reply was ' I should (kin) think so after a million miles of practice ' . License returned , eye prob was either Rugby or horse fall concussion causing small bleed .

Does this Garage have a very large Window ?

For a bit of context, I've just had one of mine fully serviced, with new brake pads and discs and a new suspension spring (thanks to all the potholes) - £640.00

They've seen the OP coming, without a doubt..

'casemoney', no. It was one next to a convenient car wash operated by Bulgarians I was using. I'd driven past this nondescript garage many times in the past. The garage was run by a bloke with a strong Irish accent; he confirmed I was 2nd in line.

I knew there would be a sting in the tail when I saw several cars coming in and leaving before mine; I was there for nearly 40 mins. This was when a MOT tester could issue Pass certificates without needing to enter the details of the vehicle electronically to DVSA.

I've never been back; the garage is still there.

Independent mechanics & tradesmen love dealing with the public who are not familiar with cars…..or DIY

License to print……lots of rodents out there……

put the reg into the dvla mot checker, click history, and see what it failed it's MOT on

Impossible still not over his number plate bulb on his Morris Minor

I cannot afford a Morris Minor. My dad had a Ford Anglia Estate in the early 60's with the iconic trafficators to ferry all six of us around. I was a mere preschooler then.

Having a wee look on tinternet a new Moggy was around £325 in 1948 and about £525 in mid  sixties,(inc purchase tax @ £80) an ave weekly wage then (1965) was prob under a tenner.

Think you could buy one now for 15k but a good one prob more.

Of course second hand would be supply and demand, can't say I every fancied one but they were fairly reliable,they were quite good on fuel too, a small 918 cc although earlier there was a 837 cc, think they got 40 mph.
Makes you wonder why it all went crazy and in no time we were producing the rover v8s d going about 12 mph.

Suppose the early  minis were OK on fuel too, the 848cc being very frugal but the 1275 liked a drink.

Must admit I owned a few minis and rather liked driving  them.

*Doing 12 mpg

My 1st vehicle was a R-reg Mini 1000 in 1977. I bought it off a 'busty' teacher in Southgate, London. It cost me £1100 and insurance was £157. I pimped it with a sporty steering wheel, bull-bars and stripes. I borrowed £200 from Barclays - I was a student then; the bloke at the bank asked why would I need a car being a student? I said to get to part-time jobs quicker after lectures.

I liked the Mini a lot. It was my most treasured car. My then teacher liked it too; she was a bit envy - she'd a beat-up older one.

1967 111PMA , lovely Mini , wrapped it round a tree after an argument with bird from Libraby College ....such is life , alcohol had been taken .