Welcome to Live View – Take the tour to learn more
Start Tour
There is currently 1 person viewing this thread.
Based on the provided information for the 14:05 Chester race, here's an approach to selecting bets:
Dutch Bet Selection:
A Dutch bet involves selecting multiple outcomes to cover different scenarios, typically to ensure a return regardless of which selection wins. Here, we'll choose three horses that show promise based on their form and recent performances.
Daisy Inthe Breeze (Selection 5):
Won impressively on debut at Brighton and is expected to progress further.
Well-drawn and with a yard that's been performing well with 2-year-olds.
Sir Geoff Morgan (Selection 4):
Runner-up to Daisy Inthe Breeze in their last race, showing promise and likely to improve.
Has a favorable draw and expected to be in contention.
Arabian Cobra (Selection 7):
A newcomer with a promising pedigree and Oisin Murphy booked to ride.
Trainer and jockey combination is notable, and market support is expected.
Bet Strategies:
Straight Win Bet:
Place a straight win bet on Daisy Inthe Breeze. This horse has already shown ability and should be competitive here.
Each Way (E/W) Bet:
Consider an each-way bet on Sir Geoff Morgan. This bet will cover both a win and a place (usually 1/4 or 1/5 odds for a place) if the horse finishes in the top positions.
Outsider (DoB) Bet:
For a more speculative bet, look at Flicka's Girl (Selection 6) as an outsider.
Showed promise on debut but was less impressive in the subsequent race. Could bounce back and surprise at higher odds.
Summary:
Primary Picks for Dutch Bet: Daisy Inthe Breeze, Sir Geoff Morgan, Arabian Cobra
Straight Win Bet: Daisy Inthe Breeze
Each Way (E/W) Bet: Sir Geoff Morgan
Outsider (DoB) Bet: Flicka's Girl
Remember to adjust your stake sizes based on the odds and your betting strategy. Always gamble responsibly and consider the risk associated with each bet. Good luck with your wagers!
Dutch Bet Selection:
A Dutch bet involves selecting multiple outcomes to cover different scenarios, typically to ensure a return regardless of which selection wins. Here, we'll choose three horses that show promise based on their form and recent performances.
Daisy Inthe Breeze (Selection 5):
Won impressively on debut at Brighton and is expected to progress further.
Well-drawn and with a yard that's been performing well with 2-year-olds.
Sir Geoff Morgan (Selection 4):
Runner-up to Daisy Inthe Breeze in their last race, showing promise and likely to improve.
Has a favorable draw and expected to be in contention.
Arabian Cobra (Selection 7):
A newcomer with a promising pedigree and Oisin Murphy booked to ride.
Trainer and jockey combination is notable, and market support is expected.
Bet Strategies:
Straight Win Bet:
Place a straight win bet on Daisy Inthe Breeze. This horse has already shown ability and should be competitive here.
Each Way (E/W) Bet:
Consider an each-way bet on Sir Geoff Morgan. This bet will cover both a win and a place (usually 1/4 or 1/5 odds for a place) if the horse finishes in the top positions.
Outsider (DoB) Bet:
For a more speculative bet, look at Flicka's Girl (Selection 6) as an outsider.
Showed promise on debut but was less impressive in the subsequent race. Could bounce back and surprise at higher odds.
Summary:
Primary Picks for Dutch Bet: Daisy Inthe Breeze, Sir Geoff Morgan, Arabian Cobra
Straight Win Bet: Daisy Inthe Breeze
Each Way (E/W) Bet: Sir Geoff Morgan
Outsider (DoB) Bet: Flicka's Girl
Remember to adjust your stake sizes based on the odds and your betting strategy. Always gamble responsibly and consider the risk associated with each bet. Good luck with your wagers!
Show More
I've used ChatGPT 3 to filter the Timeform data for quite a while and it's a way of quickly getting an overall summary of candidates for different types of bets.
Asked a similar question about the 1.30 at Chester and it told me that horse A is the best option, I'm presuming thast horse A is number 1
Another load of non-entities running today. Why do they bother? Because it's Chester?
May 8, 2024 -- 1:28PM, OilyWragg wrote:
Asked a similar question about the 1.30 at Chester and it told me that horse A is the best option, I'm presuming thast horse A is number 1
Yeah, it depends on the Promp you use. I've experimented and this one seems to work for me. Please give your opinion: 3 picks to use in a Dutch bet and other bet strategies including straight win bet, e/w, and an outsider DoB that might suit this race:
Paste in the runners the Timeform 1-2-3 here.
Please give your opinion: 3 picks to use in a Dutch bet and other bet strategies including straight win bet, e/w, and an outsider DoB that might suit this race:
Including a copy of the prompt at the bottom makes it easy to copy and paste for another race.
Have to say that the bot talks a load of shyte really, tells me that horse number one in the 2.05 has
'This horse has shown consistent form in recent races, with a strong jockey-trainer combination and a good track record on similar turf surfaces.'
Its never ran before!
'This horse has shown consistent form in recent races, with a strong jockey-trainer combination and a good track record on similar turf surfaces.'
Its never ran before!
I’ll Chance Flickas Girl and Seraphim Angel against the rest
Well done Dascombe! You're a better trainer than Mr Palmer.
The BetFairian known as AI can't make a living on here either!
Now it tells me that in the 2.10 Kelso that:
After reviewing the field and considering various factors such as recent form, jockey, trainer, and track conditions, I recommend keeping an eye on "Horse C". This horse has demonstrated solid performances in similar races, with a capable jockey-trainer partnership and a track record that suggests it could excel over the jumps at Kelso.
Its never ran before!!
After reviewing the field and considering various factors such as recent form, jockey, trainer, and track conditions, I recommend keeping an eye on "Horse C". This horse has demonstrated solid performances in similar races, with a capable jockey-trainer partnership and a track record that suggests it could excel over the jumps at Kelso.
Its never ran before!!
May 8, 2024 -- 2:03PM, Distant Relative wrote:
I’ll Chance Flickas Girl and Seraphim Angel against the rest
Spot on. Well I am done!
'Distant Relative', were you not one of Barry Hill's charges?
Askjack- at least you tried & can now eliminate this method!
chatgtp around 6.00pm, going to be muttering under it's breath about doing in the rent money, bent b@stards cheating, while booting the bookies door open, and going back to mrs gtp to explain...? 
It's not going to pick the winner in every race. I did say the prompt summarizes the data input and sometimes spits out useful comments. I've used the picks in Fairbot's simulation mode before placing any real money bets and concluded its strike rate to be no better than Timeform tips. End-of-day, I pick my bets but it has got a positive P/L which is better than me.
All it does if you ask it for the winner of each race - is to simply pick horse A in the first race you ask for, then horse B in the second race you ask for, then horse C in the third race etc etc etc
You're owned by an arms dealer; you're unlucky to run against horses like Markofdistinction (Cumani), Shaadi (daughter- kidnapper) and Zilzal (Sir Stoute).
You'd have been acclaimed by AOB as "the best he's ever trained" if you're running presently.
You'd have been acclaimed by AOB as "the best he's ever trained" if you're running presently.
Done me when I backed Great Commotion,think Pat was on board,good few
years ago.
years ago.
Mrs Flibbles comments: It sounds like Seraphim Angel had a strong performance in her debut race and could be one to watch for improvement in subsequent races. Winning her next outing after showing promise on debut indicates she's developing well. Flicka's Girl finishing second further validates the form of that race.
Being honest it looks the furthest thing i've seen from the golden goose in a long while. 
Primary Picks for Dutch Bet: Daisy Inthe Breeze, Sir Geoff Morgan, Arabian Cobra
walofs
walofs
Alastair the Alchemist has some interesting ways of selecting winners because no matter what your bet strategy is, you'll still need to pick the winner. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrGCEbReaks An interesting watch presented by a smart punter.
When you have a strategy Jack that requires a particular criteria combining a few factors that don't include the form book which is known by every man and his dog , then you won't need to pick horses as they'll select you.
Just like they do in bad e/way multi's
Just like they do in bad e/way multi's
May 8, 2024 -- 3:39PM, Hayden wrote:
When you have a strategy Jack that requires a particular criteria combining a few factors that don't include the form book which is known by every man and his dog , then you won't need to pick horses as they'll select you.Just like they do in bad e/way multi's
Post Your Reply
Please login to post a reply.
Wonder
Instance ID: 13539