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differentdrum
29 Apr 24 11:44
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Maybe I have not noticed this before, but why have some of the reserves weighted higher than horses who are in the handicap?

3.05 Big Debates
4.15 All three reserves higher than Cossack Chach

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differentdrum
When: 29 Apr 24 11:45
^ why are
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ged
When: 29 Apr 24 13:14
Cossack Chach is higher-rated than the 3 below him in the weights (he's a 4yo), so he has priority over them. Don't know about Big Debates. They have other 'protection' factors in Ireland, to give horses preference in a ballot, but I didn't think they would override a weight difference - perhaps his age is a factor, or maybe the fact that he's had a recent run. Don't know.
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ged
When: 29 Apr 24 13:17
*than the 3 ABOVE him in the weights
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The Chicken
When: 29 Apr 24 13:30
3.05 I think it's because preference is given to results in the qualifying races for this Full Series Final. Big Debates qualified with a fifth-placed finish. All the ones in the main field that are rated lower than him have finished fourth or better in a qualifier.

4.15 Unlike in Britain, the pecking order is based on official ratings rather than weight carried. Cossack Church (128) carries less weight than Minx Tiara (125) due to his 4yo weight-for-age allowance (8lb) but is "officially" a better horse.
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differentdrum
When: 29 Apr 24 14:17
Thanks both.
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ged
When: 29 Apr 24 14:52
The Chicken is quite correct - the full conditions for the race specify that HRI Directive 10 (that generally covers balloting out) is suspended for this race, and that instead, there are 3 steps of protection (against being balloted out) - firstly, horses that have finished in the first 3 in a qualifier are protected; if that measure doesn't resolve the field, then the second protection level is for horses that finished 4th in a qualifier; if that doesn't resolve it, then horses who finished 5th are protected. Big Debates is the lowest rated of 4 declared horses who finished 5th in their qualifier.
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ged
When: 29 Apr 24 14:58
...there were 10 qualifiers, 5 in Ireland, 5 in the UK.
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