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Report Amanda Hugnkiss • March 23, 2024 1:38 PM GMT
its really a wonder anyone bothers any more.
Report Jack Bauer "24" • March 23, 2024 1:39 PM GMT
Disgraceful. ATR have no shame, this service is not fit for purpose but they could not care less. Very rarely any issues with RTV.
Report Brian • March 23, 2024 1:39 PM GMT
Doncaster wasn't much better. I'm thinking of going back to TV with the increased delay
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 1:40 PM GMT
every day for over 4 years it's been like this...

utterly shameful from ATR and it's disgraceful Betfair allows it to happen quite frankly...

they should tell ATR to fk off and give them no cash whatsoever...

how on eart anyone can produce such utter filth and get away with it is beyond me...

why no journalists (in racing or otherwise) haven't picked up on this is beyond me...

channel 4 dispatches...

panorama...

Andy Davies from Channel 4 News...

a total and utter scandal imv.
Report ease • March 23, 2024 1:58 PM GMT
ATR a useless, laughable shower
Report ease • March 23, 2024 1:59 PM GMT
Let's see if this race is any better. Probably not.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 2:00 PM GMT
if anyone knows any investigative journalist who wants some easy pickings then get them to look at why for over 4 YEARS we have been submitted to an absolute complete and utter disgraceful Live Video from ATR please ?

the constant pausing on a virtual DAILY basis...

the delay from 'live' to LV (seems to be anything from 1.5 to 2.2 secs why ?)...

why does Betfair continue to pay ATR good money for such a shockingly disgusting service ?

there are 3 things they could get their teeth in to...

those who let this happen should be utterly ashamed of themselves imv.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 2:02 PM GMT
Race 2 at Bangor and yet again it is a pile of utter filth.
Report stewarty b • March 23, 2024 2:08 PM GMT
Amanda!!!! How are you??
Report Rico-Dangleflaps • March 23, 2024 2:09 PM GMT
ATR even on drone is virtually unplayable last 3f..the gps is that far ahead of our eyes its mind boggling.
Report Wicklow • March 23, 2024 2:11 PM GMT
Hard to believe we are living in 2024 and we cant get a live video to run smoothly for no longer than 5 secs without a pause (coincedently at a hurdle/fence). A grim weekend of racing :(
Report Rico-Dangleflaps • March 23, 2024 2:13 PM GMT
unless you're playing way out of what use is ATR BLV?
Report stewarty b • March 23, 2024 2:16 PM GMT
Backed two dogs last wee. I think it was Yarmouth and each race had 10 metres to go before the commentary started.
Report stewarty b • March 23, 2024 2:17 PM GMT
*week.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps • March 23, 2024 2:37 PM GMT
both obv beat as no aftertimed yarmouth bets scene.
Report mitolo • March 23, 2024 2:39 PM GMT
fine here
Report Trident • March 23, 2024 2:40 PM GMT
Just updated Firefox, wow freezes every few secondsCry
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 2:41 PM GMT
so how come race 3 was fine ?

no pauses at all ?

what have they done between races 2 and 3 to 'fix' it ?

and why couldn't they have it in this state PRIOR to race 1 ?

you never get an answer...

the folk who know the answer never speak...

about time an investigative journalist did some digging imv...

anyone recommend anyone ?

iknow Andy Davies has done some digging in the past...

he's probably a good option tbh.
Report Amanda Hugnkiss • March 23, 2024 2:41 PM GMT
How's life stewarty.....I'm still here, just...Laugh
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 2:43 PM GMT
Wicklow  Mar 24 14:11

Hard to believe we are living in 2024 and we cant get a live video to run smoothly for no longer than 5 secs without a pause (coincedently at a hurdle/fence).

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spot on Wicklow...

over 4 years of being treated like a piece of $h1t from ATR (and Betfair goes along with it)...

utterly disgraceful...

i just hope someone will be willing to dig a bit.
Report Amanda Hugnkiss • March 23, 2024 2:45 PM GMT
Video back from the moon landing was faster and without intolerable buffering ins and outs...
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 2:48 PM GMT
they give the game away by actually 'fixing' it imv...

if they can 'fix' it they know why it happens...

if they know why it happens they can 'fix' it without it happening every day...

someone needs to do some digging and those responsible for it held to account imv.
Report Brian • March 23, 2024 2:50 PM GMT
To be fair, it's usually perfect before they start the race.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 2:52 PM GMT
it ain't Brian...

pauses plenty prior to the start of the race at times.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:11 PM GMT
I've had no issue with any ATR BFL feed since I updated to v123.0 on Firefox. I've switched off updates since because it'd been a long time since I had full stability on a Firefox version.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:13 PM GMT
why do you bother with an ATR BLV feed when your drone must be anything between 1 and 2 secs ahead and your GPS must be along similar lines jamee ?
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:16 PM GMT
Different angle, plus audio commentary.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:29 PM GMT
you got a link for that download jamee ?

i might try it...

fk all to lose tbh.
Report stewarty b • March 23, 2024 3:30 PM GMT
Good show Amanda. Was the horse of a similar name anything to do with you? I hope leafy Lingfield is treating you well!
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:34 PM GMT
my Firefox is version 124...

will try it jamee.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:40 PM GMT
just had a pause at Bangor...

so the early races today jamee...

you had NO ISSUES WHATSOEVER ?

well plenty did i can assure you...

very strange imv.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:41 PM GMT
Link to old Firefox versions https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:42 PM GMT
this bangor race is hideous...

pausing constantly...

can't just be me.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:44 PM GMT
I've had not any skip on any BFL stream (ATR or RMG) since I updated to FF v123.0 back on 23rd Feb.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:45 PM GMT
this Bangor race is unwatchable quite frankly.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:46 PM GMT
amazing jamee...

not calling you a liar but that is simply astonishing tbh...

coz everyone else has.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:47 PM GMT
so which 123.0 one is it jamee ?

there are loads ther tbh.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:47 PM GMT
jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:44 PM GMT
I've had not any skip on any BFL stream (ATR or RMG) since I updated to FF v123.0 back on 23rd Feb.


Sod's law. That last race kept cutting out. Felt like it was more like a connection issue than the usual ATR skipping problems though.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:50 PM GMT

Mar 23, 2024 -- 4:47PM, HappyHibby wrote:


so which 123.0 one is it jamee ?there are loads ther tbh.


Don't know, but I would think most likely 123.0

Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:50 PM GMT
ah...

well thyat is what mine has been like for over 4 years jamee...

unwatchable...

surprised i haven't chucked myself off the top of Celtic Park by now tbh.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 3:54 PM GMT
https://www.browserstack.com/guide/downgrade-older-versions-of-firefox
.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 3:55 PM GMT
will try it later tbh jamee...

but i have my doubts tbh...

well yours just paused tbh.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 4:20 PM GMT
Told you Hibby. It's been fine every race since 23rd Feb.

Experience probably a combination of browser version, computer power, internet speed, and stream user volume I should think.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 4:33 PM GMT
well all i can say is you must have top notch equipment jamee...

and everyone else must have cr@p equipment coz mine is like this every bl00dy day...

and has been over 4 years tbh.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 4:39 PM GMT
I do have high-powered PC and superfast internet. Don't know how much of a difference that makes.

But browser for me is still very important. ATR was skipping badly between Firefox versions 118.0.1 released last Oct and and version 123.0 released last month. I've switched off FF updates now I have a stable set-up.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 4:43 PM GMT
will try and download the 123.0 version jamee...

can't see it making any difference whatsoever personally.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 4:43 PM GMT
i take it you have FTTP jamee ?
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 4:52 PM GMT
Yes. About 500mbps to my PC. But sometimes I use my mobile signal which is about 80mbps and there's no obvious difference to the quality or latency of BFL streams.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 4:56 PM GMT
oh dear...

newcastle 4:55...

they are OFF says Tommo...

still going in to the stalls on the LV screen...

you couldn't make the utter vile cr@p up tbh.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 4:59 PM GMT
here they come in to the home straight says Tommo...

just started turning at the bend on the far side on the video...

must be about 15 secs behind ffs...

farcical...

now if anyone tells me that is 'just one of those things' i won't believe them.
Report Wicklow • March 23, 2024 5:00 PM GMT
That was so bad it was funny
Report Jack Bauer "24" • March 23, 2024 5:03 PM GMT
This is the kind of thing the GC would be investigating if they weren't so useless. Punters are getting screwed everyday.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 5:05 PM GMT
someone needs to investigate it Jack coz it stinks to high heaven imv...

and those responsible for it need to be questioned about it.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 5:20 PM GMT
It's ineptitude, not corruptness.

The markets act exactly the same whether the BFL stream is 1 sec, 2 sec, or 10 secs behind. The drone stream leads the market.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 5:22 PM GMT
absolutely NOBODY can tell me that this utter fkn shambles we've been dished up this afternoon was unfixable...

from start to finish it has been scandalous...

i just hope those responsible get their comeuppance at some point.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 5:27 PM GMT
i couldn't give a flying fk about the markets and who leads them jamee...

coz when you are dished up the $hite i've been dished up this afternoon the markets are irrelevant...

i rely on a pausless LV that ain't delayed by 2-3 seconds (which it has been at points over the last 4 years)...

like i say i just hope those responsible have to answer for their disgusting service at some point.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 5:31 PM GMT
oh dear...

Newcastle audio STILL miles ahead of the video...

and no doubt some folk think it's unfixable...

they've been trying really hard for the last 30 minutes trying to fix his but they've just not quite managed it...

do me a fkn favour.
Report Jack Bauer "24" • March 23, 2024 5:38 PM GMT
If the GC announced that in-running betting at ATR tracks is going to be banned unless they can provide a service at the same level as RTV tracks, the problems would be fixed in no time.
Report ease • March 23, 2024 5:42 PM GMT
If only Carlsberg did Gambling Commissions, instead of that  clueless bunch.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 5:45 PM GMT
spot on Jack...

as if by magic...

that's what should happen imv btw.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 5:47 PM GMT
Betfair should NOT be paying ATR for their utterly $h1te product...

end of story...

they are offering their customers a hideous product and they simply should NOT be doing it.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 6:01 PM GMT
Betfair have fixed it this race. **** still miles behind.
Report jamee1 • March 23, 2024 6:01 PM GMT
*purple
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 6:03 PM GMT
bet it must have been a massive job to 'fix' it...

press a button or two...

some folk will give them great credit for 'fixing' it...

laughable.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 6:05 PM GMT
so all of a sudden we get a pauseless stream...

how is that then ?

why has it taken them all day to get a pauseless stream ?

it's laughable tbh...

Comedy Gold as mr.Hunt regularly tells us.
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 6:31 PM GMT
didn't think it would last long...

Newcastle constant pausing again.

(apart from jamee).
Report HappyHibby • March 23, 2024 6:33 PM GMT
even the Suspend monkey's feed was pausing...

big pause right at the end...

didn't suspend until the feed came back...

COMEDY GOLD.
Report Trident • March 24, 2024 1:46 PM GMT

Mar 23, 2024 -- 5:39PM, jamee1 wrote:


I do have high-powered PC and superfast internet. Don't know how much of a difference that makes. But browser for me is still very important. ATR was skipping badly between Firefox versions 118.0.1 released last Oct and and version 123.0 released last month. I've switched off FF updates now I have a stable set-up.


Firefox and ALL browser updates are Very important for your security. I would suggest updating Firefox each month.

Report Trident • March 24, 2024 1:48 PM GMT
I'm on Firefox and I've updated. The ATR streams are stuttering every few seconds for me, almost unwatchableShocked
Report jamee1 • March 24, 2024 2:23 PM GMT
That's why I don't update. All I want is a stable BFL and I have it with v123.0.
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