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Just noticed this has appeared in my account listing.have most people been allotted a monthly spend allowance now?
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Same with me here today......is it the beginning of the end????
They want all sorts of I.D and all that sort of c4@p.....
.lady on chat kept going on about affordability and how could I afford to deposit over £125,000 over the last year.....I did point out that I had withdrawn well excess of that and am I profit,but it was like talking to a brick wall.....emptied my account back to my bank last night.....just a few quid from the golf, left now,which I have been told I cannot touch until I produce proof of income and ID.....account suspended....grrrr
.lady on chat kept going on about affordability and how could I afford to deposit over £125,000 over the last year.....I did point out that I had withdrawn well excess of that and am I profit,but it was like talking to a brick wall.....emptied my account back to my bank last night.....just a few quid from the golf, left now,which I have been told I cannot touch until I produce proof of income and ID.....account suspended....grrrr
My limit is 1.5K, I've only deposited once in last three years(upped balance for big race meeting) and am a regular small winner. My problem when I go for long holidays (one planned next year), I like to clear out my funds. As I like to have a working balance of 6k+ (I mostly lay), that limit wouldn't work for me in those circumstances
Must be very frustrating Skip.
Must be very frustrating Skip.
where in account can you find your deposit limit?
Brian 26 May 25 09:22
My limit is 1.5K, I've only deposited once in last three years(upped balance for big race meeting) and am a regular small winner.
i would suggest upping stakes brains.
My limit is 1.5K, I've only deposited once in last three years(upped balance for big race meeting) and am a regular small winner.
i would suggest upping stakes brains.
swiftynifty26 May 25 09:30Joined: 16 Jan 07 | Topic/replies: 12,741 | Blogger: swiftynifty's blog
where in account can you find your deposit limit?
I don't think you will have one swifty, if you haven't deposited since all the pretence around safe/responsible gambling kicked off. I can't find a deposit limit anywhere on my account.
If you click on "safer gambling tools" it implies you can select your own limit - but I would guess if you select anything more than a trifling amount, that will just draw attention and might kick off all sorts of unwelcome "correspondence" from their crack squad of investigators. So probably best left well alone.
where in account can you find your deposit limit?
I don't think you will have one swifty, if you haven't deposited since all the pretence around safe/responsible gambling kicked off. I can't find a deposit limit anywhere on my account.
If you click on "safer gambling tools" it implies you can select your own limit - but I would guess if you select anything more than a trifling amount, that will just draw attention and might kick off all sorts of unwelcome "correspondence" from their crack squad of investigators. So probably best left well alone.
I think some people thought that if they set their own deposit limit (via the "safer gambling tools" link), it would:
a) Show how responsible they were.
b) Allow them to select an amount higher than would otherwise be inflicted upon them
But (anecdotally) I'm not sure that worked out too well for them! Maybe some people that tried it can comment?
a) Show how responsible they were.
b) Allow them to select an amount higher than would otherwise be inflicted upon them
But (anecdotally) I'm not sure that worked out too well for them! Maybe some people that tried it can comment?
Overuse of parentheses can make writing unclear, confusing, and even irritating for the reader.
They should be used sparingly, primarily for clarifying or qualifying material that doesn't fit naturally into the flow of the text.
It's often better to rephrase the information to make it more direct and concise.
They should be used sparingly, primarily for clarifying or qualifying material that doesn't fit naturally into the flow of the text.
It's often better to rephrase the information to make it more direct and concise.
TM, that's what I thought might be the case. I haven't clicked on 'safer gambling tools' for that very reason. I have had to make deposits though, sadly.
I set a Deposit Limit of £10,000/month a couple of years ago (about treble what I have ever deposited) and it's worked all right for me. Put it this way, I haven't had an affordability check or My Spend Budget inflicted on me (or if I have, I can't find it anywhere).
Deposit Limit: A helping hand to do the counting - Active
Current Limit:
£10,000 per month
£10,260 remaining
Active since 28/04/2023 at 23:33
Limit resets on 01/06/2025 at 01:00
Deposit Limit: A helping hand to do the counting - Active
Current Limit:
£10,000 per month
£10,260 remaining
Active since 28/04/2023 at 23:33
Limit resets on 01/06/2025 at 01:00
... Mines the exact same Screaming, not had any probs or contact with BF at all.
Parentheses should be avoided when writing for a mass audience, but are fine when chatting on a message board. They replicate the meanderings and afterthoughts of real-life conversation.
Thanks screaming & GC - but have you made any significant deposits since setting you own deposit limits?
t2r - I'm of the school of thought that lack of parentheses (especially on "social" media), can lead to confusion and ambiguity, especially when communicating with people that are easily confused and/or argumentative. hth.
I made one deposit of £3,000 last month. No problems with Betfair, but as my net deposits on the current card were minus £12,250, I wouldn't have expected any. I'd just got too c0cky making withdrawals. So, not really representative.
I'm much more concerned about the effect on punters who are losing, because without punters who are losing, there is no chance of being a punter who wins.
I'm much more concerned about the effect on punters who are losing, because without punters who are losing, there is no chance of being a punter who wins.
t2r - I am proud to be a pedant. If the subject matter is complex or easily misunderstood, clarifying or qualifying what you are saying, just seems like common sense to me.
You too are a pedant - feeling the need to constantly post pedantically about my pedantry!
You just don't know it - come out of the closet and embrace your own pedantry.
You too are a pedant - feeling the need to constantly post pedantically about my pedantry!
You just don't know it - come out of the closet and embrace your own pedantry.
No problems with Betfair when depositing, but no end of problems with Nationwide Building Society in getting them to process the deposit. Took a total of five hours and two thirty-minute phone calls before they agreed to let me make the deposit.
"I can't find a record of you making a deposit to a gambling company on this card."
"There's lots of withdrawals."
"I can't find a record of you making a deposit to a gambling company on this card."
"Look, it's a legitimate company and a legitimate transaction with my money."
"For your own safety I have put a block on your card, and if you wish to remove the block on the card, you will have to contact our security department on the following number ..."
And then the same conversation all over again. And then again, with another department. And I'm deaf - the Text Relay operators must have the patience of Job to type out these conversations for people dealing with banks, etc.
"I can't find a record of you making a deposit to a gambling company on this card."
"There's lots of withdrawals."
"I can't find a record of you making a deposit to a gambling company on this card."
"Look, it's a legitimate company and a legitimate transaction with my money."
"For your own safety I have put a block on your card, and if you wish to remove the block on the card, you will have to contact our security department on the following number ..."
And then the same conversation all over again. And then again, with another department. And I'm deaf - the Text Relay operators must have the patience of Job to type out these conversations for people dealing with banks, etc.
Thanks sfbtw.
You can't expect anybody at a bank to understand gambling! - Junk Bonds anybody?
You can't expect anybody at a bank to understand gambling! - Junk Bonds anybody?
The bigger issue which may or may not be further down the line, is that one of the most reliable methods for identifying "problem gambling" or gambling addiction is Time Spent gambling.
And that will be a massive issue for racing if it is ever introduced or considered as a "safety measure". It will also really highlight the catastrophic failure of the Racing Industry to differentiate itself and it's product from addictive games of chance.
If you consider an imposed 2 hour time limit on gambling as an example.
A typical slots/casino addict will probably be actively playing constantly throughout that period, hundreds of games. For a horse player that period might encompass just 12 races (if there's one race every ten minutes) and the vast majority of that period he might even be inactive (either due to the gaps between races or because he doesn't participate in every race). For a football bettor, it might just involve trading one match and a cumulative "active" spell of just minutes. As I said, whereas your typical slots addict will have been "active" for hundreds of games and almost every second of his (imposed) 2 hour session.
The good news is; Luckily the only people with a deep knowledge of "problem gambling" and in possession of the the data to back it up, are the Bookmakers and they have no interest is safe/responsible gambling. They are only interested in the pretence and are only focussed on the optics.
So I'd guess IMPOSED time limits are unlikely to ever come to pass. Equally luckily, nobody involved in safe/responsible gambling outside of the slots/casino industry has a clue what they are doing (MP's, the Anti-lobby, Gambling Commission, etc), again making it unlikely that they will ever push for such measures.
So hopefully things like voluntary (self imposed) "gaming time limits" and "time-out" will be as far as it ever goes. Of course the Racing Industry better hope so, given that they rolled-over and allowed gaming and gambling to be lumped together for regulation and affordability.
Though, given their inability to diverge from the Bookmakers, see the bigger picture or think of the future, my guess would be that they didn't even consider it!
And that will be a massive issue for racing if it is ever introduced or considered as a "safety measure". It will also really highlight the catastrophic failure of the Racing Industry to differentiate itself and it's product from addictive games of chance.
If you consider an imposed 2 hour time limit on gambling as an example.
A typical slots/casino addict will probably be actively playing constantly throughout that period, hundreds of games. For a horse player that period might encompass just 12 races (if there's one race every ten minutes) and the vast majority of that period he might even be inactive (either due to the gaps between races or because he doesn't participate in every race). For a football bettor, it might just involve trading one match and a cumulative "active" spell of just minutes. As I said, whereas your typical slots addict will have been "active" for hundreds of games and almost every second of his (imposed) 2 hour session.
The good news is; Luckily the only people with a deep knowledge of "problem gambling" and in possession of the the data to back it up, are the Bookmakers and they have no interest is safe/responsible gambling. They are only interested in the pretence and are only focussed on the optics.
So I'd guess IMPOSED time limits are unlikely to ever come to pass. Equally luckily, nobody involved in safe/responsible gambling outside of the slots/casino industry has a clue what they are doing (MP's, the Anti-lobby, Gambling Commission, etc), again making it unlikely that they will ever push for such measures.
So hopefully things like voluntary (self imposed) "gaming time limits" and "time-out" will be as far as it ever goes. Of course the Racing Industry better hope so, given that they rolled-over and allowed gaming and gambling to be lumped together for regulation and affordability.
Though, given their inability to diverge from the Bookmakers, see the bigger picture or think of the future, my guess would be that they didn't even consider it!
Hands up, I'm an idiot. I've realised that 1.5k limit I mentioned earlier in the thread is per day and was set up by myself years ago.
I think you are right Swifty. I certainly wouldn't rely being able to that on consecutive days.
The Management 26 May 25 11:56
The bigger issue which may or may not be further down the line, is that one of the most reliable methods for identifying "problem gambling" or gambling addiction is Time Spent gambling.
95% of the forum are on here 12 hrs ev day..FACT
The bigger issue which may or may not be further down the line, is that one of the most reliable methods for identifying "problem gambling" or gambling addiction is Time Spent gambling.
95% of the forum are on here 12 hrs ev day..FACT
Correct. But luckily for the forum, (as I pointed out in that particular post) nobody out there is looking to actually genuinely address "problem gambling".
At best, you could describe their efforts thus far as trying to force losers to lose a bit less - because all of the measures they have explored and/or implemented are just monetary.
Sadly, the reality of "problem gamblers" is far broader than just how much money they have lost. But of course as gamblers ourselves (be it winners or losers), we have to be thankful that nobody knows what they are doing!
At best, you could describe their efforts thus far as trying to force losers to lose a bit less - because all of the measures they have explored and/or implemented are just monetary.
Sadly, the reality of "problem gamblers" is far broader than just how much money they have lost. But of course as gamblers ourselves (be it winners or losers), we have to be thankful that nobody knows what they are doing!
The one thing losing gamblers and winning gamblers have in common - they both want to keep gambling!
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