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By:
DonegalPrince
When: 24 Feb 24 22:51
yes. a sad loss. When I was in London in the late 70'sI used to go to White City dogs frequently. He was there regularly with a pint, a **** and a sheaf of betting slips. Sometimes the night before a game! A genius. Frank Worthington : Tony Currie ; Duncan McKenzie : Charlie George. The present players will be respected but rarely loved as much as those and their like
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 24 Feb 24 22:52
cigarette
By:
ronnie rails
When: 24 Feb 24 23:30
DP
Would you have liked to sit round a dinner table with that lot Stick George in and have big Mal in to manage them.
Ronnie.
By:
The Knight
When: 25 Feb 24 00:11
'If Stan could only pass a betting shop like the way he passes a football'!!

A famous quote attributed to one of Stan's managers during his playing days.

RIP Stan...
By:
tantpis
When: 25 Feb 24 00:21
Throw in Rodney Marsh as well
By:
G Hall
When: 25 Feb 24 05:36
The Knight

I think it was Dave Sexton iirc
By:
G Hall
When: 25 Feb 24 05:47
Sorry it was Ernie Tagg
By:
1st time poster
When: 25 Feb 24 11:09
theres a great old photo currently on twitter of STAN at holgate end at boro whilst ewaiting for a corner picks a programme up and is reading aboput himself in the programme alongside don givens i think it is
famous quote from CLOUGHIE
IF STANLEY COULD PASS A BETTING  SHOP LIKE HE PASSED A BALL HE,D HAVE NO PROBLEMS Laugh
By:
chavman
When: 25 Feb 24 11:34
he was at Forest at the end of his career,sadly his legs and talent were well on the wane by then
By:
stewarts rise
When: 25 Feb 24 11:44
Just read that he was voted their teams greatest ever player by both QPR and Brentford fans, quite an achievement. RIP Stan one of the great entertainers, boozers and punters.
By:
Tattcorner
When: 25 Feb 24 13:26
Did he head the ball a lot? Succumbed to Alzheimer's like a lot of ex-players, but perhaps his wild past life had an impact as well. RIP Stan.

Watched an interesting interview last night on Youtube...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYNmHqMBrbs

And 10 of his best goals, if you're interested :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v4-rulag0-o
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 25 Feb 24 14:13
Ronnie, it would be a fair old time wouldn't it! I suppose distance lends enchantment to the view, and we were younger and more enthusiastic then, but footy seemed  more exciting then. I love watching The Big Match Revisited on ITV 4 on Saturday morning. They showed a rare victory by Everton v Liverpool yesterday. Souness ran 25 yards to have a fight with Mick Lyons! Great villains we had as well in those days. Hope all is well.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 25 Feb 24 14:22
DP.
Sad to say lost the mother in law this morning  dementia  is an awful  thing  RIP.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 25 Feb 24 14:25
DP
Was at Wembley  when Keegan and Bremner got sent off great days.
By:
Macintoshmatty
When: 25 Feb 24 14:27
Stood by him at White City one night on the back straight. I had missed 5/4 a dog, he asked me what I wanted to back, he didn't seem to have a programme so I gave him my page of the sporting life that I had folded up in my back pocket. He layed me  6/4 and paid me out after the race. I actually had been to see him play at QPR when I first moved to London,one of the few players I would pay to watch.
RIP Stan
By:
jimnast
When: 25 Feb 24 14:27
Donegal if I remember correctly souness got a shock when he got there.

Sorry to hear about your mother in law ronnie.
By:
DonegalPrince
When: 25 Feb 24 14:45
very sorry to hear that RR. My condolences. A dreadfully cruel business dementia.

Jimnast, he did. Mick was a very "uncomplicated" defender and the size of a house. Guardiola and he are at opposite ends of the sophisticated footy spectrum.
By:
tobygirl
When: 25 Feb 24 14:46
can remember him playing at carlisle utd    making me feel old
By:
jimnast
When: 25 Feb 24 14:54
LaughYes they are Donegal
By:
DrGordons
When: 25 Feb 24 17:00
Sharp dresser, Stan. His dad had told him, "It's not a crime to be skint but it is a crime to look skint"
By:
1st time poster
When: 25 Feb 24 17:14
i was in the chicken run at ayresome park and saw souness fly in to little tommy craig of newcastle in a derby ,snapped his shin pad in two you could hear the crack in the ALBERT PARK HOTEL
no more than the little ginger koont deserved Laugh
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 17:46
Would be on 200k per week in today's prices. Sadly only managed KO time five minutes beforehand after leaving the bookies.
By:
1st time poster
When: 25 Feb 24 17:51
£200 0r £200,000 makes no odds if its going in bookies sarchel SadSad
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 17:52
Indeed poster. It's all relative.
By:
casemoney
When: 25 Feb 24 18:05
Sadly only managed KO time five minutes beforehand after leaving the bookies.

Sadly Laugh

Stan done it his way Stew he didn't give a Flying mate
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 18:16
Indeed Casey. Probably the best non-trainer in English football!
By:
sparrow
When: 25 Feb 24 18:33
Someone was telling me the other day on the football forum about how unfit players were in the 60s with their smoking and drinking but is taking crack cocaine and heroin etc so much more healthier for many of today's players?
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 18:36
Mmmmm there are drug tests now sparrow.
By:
sparrow
When: 25 Feb 24 18:49
On matchdays maybe but what about the rest of the week?
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 18:52
Doesn't it stay in the system for at least five days?
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 25 Feb 24 19:05
I watched one of his old interviews on YT last night, told how he'd stay in the bookies 'til 2.45 on match days, and once left it until 2.55, which sent Dave Sexton into a rage.

When asked what his biggest bet had been, he answered £4K on a greyhound...It lost.

Asked whether he'd have been richer if he hadn't gambled, Stan answered...Yes, but would I be as happy?
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 19:09
Interesting GEORGE but sad at the same time.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 25 Feb 24 19:21
stewy, the likes of Merton, Shilton & Adams, why did they gamble to excess?

And then they turn on gambling when it goes wrong for them, but while some people may run into trouble because they gambled because they wanted to win money to improve their lives or escape their dreary jobs, this wasn't the case for them, so it would suggest to me that there was something else going on mentally, imo. 
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 19:24
On that note GEOEGE, I'm glad I took my 'punishment' when I was young. I've shared this story many times. I met my mentor when I was young. It took a while but things changed around and I got a grasp of the game. 'Turn  a different corner...'



My fortunes changed and I'm still with BF 23 years later. That said, it's still tough.
By:
GEORGE.B
When: 25 Feb 24 19:41
They had money, status, adulation, admiration, respect, and no doubt no shortage of beautiful women wanting to make their acquaintance, and yet they get themselves into a situation where they recklessly blow vast amounts of money and destroy their lives.

So it seems to me their gambling is a symptom of something else going on, because they never needed to gamble in the first place, but the gambling is blamed as the primary problem.

I don't know, too much money and too much time on their hands?

Finish training on the morning and then an empty void to fill?
By:
stewarty b
When: 25 Feb 24 20:00
No doubt GEORGE. I saw it at Aberdeen with McLeish And Millar  but previous to that, Baxter and his 'pals' took it to a different level at Sunderland , drinking themselves unconscious with Bacardi and cokk on a Friday night before the game. They got off with it but Baxter had so much talent he could get by.


Wouldn't happen now.
By:
casemoney
When: 25 Feb 24 20:06
Stan would be at the White city 3 nights a week ,Wembley on Occasions,  Game schedule allowing ..Snooker Clubs , Card Clubs , Drinking , A few women on the Firm , His mate went out with Miss world at one stage , Regrets he had a few .. As he said the Crowd he hung about with in Manchester as a teen  Were Either in Prison or Dead
By:
casemoney
When: 25 Feb 24 20:06
Stan would be at the White city 3 nights a week ,Wembley on Occasions,  Game schedule allowing ..Snooker Clubs , Card Clubs , Drinking , A few women on the Firm , His mate went out with Miss world at one stage , Regrets he had a few .. As he said the Crowd he hung about with in Manchester as a teen  Were Either in Prison or Dead
By:
casemoney
When: 25 Feb 24 20:10
His biggest Regret was his Mrs foooked him off out of it , Because he went off with some Young Model , not sure if she was Page 3 ,Was probably that and the Lifestyle
he lived that made her Divorce him , They did remain friends
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