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04 Feb 24
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jumping stats told him warrior was done 4 out ,the rest of the fooking world just used their eyes 
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Gives the old boy something to do.
On a more serious note, not sure about these jumping stats. Is it just the jump because you can stutter into an obstacle and 2-3 lengths even if you jump it well enough. Fastorslow who he was bigging up did that several times. |
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They call it a jumping 'envelope'. Measured from several strides before to several strides after each jump.
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of course the faster,lower you get over a fence more chance of hitting one as opposed to popping them and in small field graded races most jocks wont want their horses winging them leasving them in front so ask them to pop
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The race IQ stuff might be interesting for nerds. And I'm probably in that bracket. But it just puts numbers and graphics to what we can see for ourselves. It's not really useful for betting I don't feel.
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the missing piece making it irrelevant to me is not knowing how a jock/trainer wants the horse to jump,i,d imagine most want their horse jumping in hand not been asked for everything at every fence and after timing saying a horse won because of lengths gained jumping is just an opinion,especially as jocks quite happy to give 30 lengths away for nothing at the start
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GW in that beginners chase against a load of inferiors & not offs...33l gained jumping
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Ruby did some decent analyses of it when they were explaining the parameters. What it showed is that horses held up mid pack or at the back have the lengths gained 'throttled' to some extent. For quite obvious reasons. So a good jumper is better off given space. They analysed GDC as part of it, so I don't think it's a coincidence that we've seen a change of tactics and is now gagging up.
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using an opponent or opponents to 'measure' a horse's jumping proficiency is total bs
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Personally, as I've noted I don't think there is much benefit for gambling at all. It probably offers some insight to connections in regard to the best tactics and tracks to race etc
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you can use the stats to show horse A has gained a length at every fence 20 lengths in a 3 mile race but if horse B who,s lost those 20 jumping has made it up on the level,and horse A loses a length to horse B at last those 20 lenghts count for nothing
surely a length gained or lost at the last cant count as the same lenght gained or lost at the 1st, we can all make a 90% correct assumption whether a horse has won or lost a race because of its jumping as compared to the ones that have beat you |