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gerard
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Not just the switch to SSR but the LV is behind even that!

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By:
elise
When: 23 Jan 24 11:53
quite funny really
By:
swiftynifty
When: 23 Jan 24 11:56
don't tell 'em Pike
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 11:56
new LV format...

the speedometer top left of picture suggested it was miles slower than it should be...

possibly teething trouble for race 1 ?
By:
Wicklow
When: 23 Jan 24 11:56
Ohh the irony of it all....
By:
jamee1
When: 23 Jan 24 12:27
Same issue race 2.
By:
Wesdag
When: 23 Jan 24 12:27
farcical scenes
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 12:31
i think the new LV format will make it better than it was tbh Wesdag...

clearly having teething issues regarding speed imv.
By:
Wicklow
When: 23 Jan 24 12:33
Donny a couple of weeks they got it fixed for the final race. What the chances, they flick the switch to normal p!ss take pics for the bumper.
By:
clouded leopard
When: 23 Jan 24 12:35
Hibby, what is the new format exactly or what has changed pls ?

Been away from i/r many years here until recently and it's only still experimental at this stage knowing liquidity has dropped since I was here last... am I chasing unicorns ?

also can anyone tell me what a reasonable response (ms) time these days ?
By:
Big Cat
When: 23 Jan 24 12:36
Highly likely The Racing Partnership do not have a fiber into Newbury. Typically, they take 3 months to install, so don't expect this to get resolved any time soon
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Jan 24 12:37
atr tracks that used satellite were still -2 secs.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 12:39
i don't know the technicalities tbh leopard...

the Newbury LV is a different LV format to what we have been getting ATR wise for years tho...

i am hoping it makes it more reliable (and faster) but who knows tbh.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 12:43
Big Cat Joined: 16 Oct 01
Replies: 56823 Jan 24 13:36 
Highly likely The Racing Partnership do not have a fiber into Newbury. Typically, they take 3 months to install, so don't expect this to get resolved any time soon

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thanx for that info Big Cat...

surely Betfair will keep us informed tho if that is the case..

then again maybe not tbh...

CryCryCry
By:
swiftynifty
When: 23 Jan 24 12:44
top left, just turn the dial
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 12:45
where's bootman when you need him ?
By:
swiftynifty
When: 23 Jan 24 12:48
made hay once he gave in and got the drones, Barbados last i heard.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 12:57
Barbados or Whitley Bay...

tough choice imv swifty.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 12:59
race 3 and it's still fkd...

SadCrySadCry
By:
clouded leopard
When: 23 Jan 24 13:00
ok thanks Hibby
By:
jamee1
When: 23 Jan 24 13:21
clouded leopard • January 23, 2024 1:35 PM GMT
also can anyone tell me what a reasonable response (ms) time these days ?

Drones, GPS via TPD, and RMG (RacingUK) tracks on BFL, all about 0.6s behind live.
ATR tracks on BFL usually about 2s behind live.
By:
duffy
When: 23 Jan 24 13:23
Just turned on and seen the issues, I've just tweeted them as that's the best chance we'd have, don't know if anyone has already tweeted them, I expect Wes would have so probably uphill battle.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 13:27
no disrespect duffy but if they aren't aware of this then i don't know what planet they are actually living on tbh.
By:
elise
When: 23 Jan 24 13:27
if u right click on the little dial in the top left, click on spinal tap and turn up the slider to 11 it's all good
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 13:28
i mean the track has gone from RTV to ATR...

the LV format has changed...

for them not to be monitoring it would be utterly ridiculous imv...

mind you nowt would surprise me tbh.
By:
duffy
When: 23 Jan 24 13:31
Yeah, all too familiar, been here many times beforeSad
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 13:33
the lack of communication is absolutely disgusting imv duffy.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 13:35
oh dear...

race 4 looks like it's about half an hour behind live...

fkn hideous.
By:
jamee1
When: 23 Jan 24 13:35
I wonder what Betfair use to manage the market? In the last at Newbury they suspended about 3 secs before the winner crossed the line on the BFL pictures. So they aren't using the same pictures we get. Do they have a faster 'clean' feed, or perhaps they use GPS?
By:
jamee1
When: 23 Jan 24 13:37
If I was Betfair I would use GPS. You could automate it that way and remove human error and cost. Perhaps they are waiting for GPS data to become readily available from RMG tracks?
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 13:37
end of race suspend has been going up about half a furlong early for every race so far 'jamee'...

they must have someone at the track surely ?

either that or they have joined the drone brigade for ATR races Wink ?
By:
jamee1
When: 23 Jan 24 13:39
HappyHibby • January 23, 2024 2:37 PM GMT
they must have someone at the track surely ?

Could be. GPS is already up and running via TPD at Newbury so they could be using that.
By:
elise
When: 23 Jan 24 13:40
when things go wrong on here, the first thing you should do is check elsewhere, what most do is just moan, that's my betfair for dummies post for today
By:
jamee1
When: 23 Jan 24 13:45
Thinking a bit further, if they were using GPS or someone on track then you would expect the suspend to be much earlier.

Says to me either Betfair have a 'clean' stream that is a few seconds better than the one we're getting, or they know the stream is running behind and are guestimating it.
By:
longbridge
When: 23 Jan 24 13:46
If I were BF I would use someone at the track with a mobile phone.  I am sure they used to?
By:
elise
When: 23 Jan 24 13:53
i think it was start, end, photo & stewards they used to call in

was chatting to one in the paddock at ffos and he forgot to tell them a stewards had opened, that was about 2008 ish i think, did think they did away with them a fair while back, wazza may know he was in the boxes pre drone and so would have seen them
By:
HappyHibby
When: 23 Jan 24 13:54
Says to me either Betfair have a 'clean' stream that is a few seconds better than the one we're getting

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that sounds a bit 'conspiracy theoryish' to me 'jamee'...

careful coz some folk on here will be jumping down your throat with comments like that from you...

oh no hang on...

it's only me who gets pelters for suggesting anything a bit iffy might be going on.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 23 Jan 24 13:55
They used have someone on track with a mobile phone
Susan Jeffrey used do it at Lingfield and a few other Southern tracks prior to Covid.I don't know if she was replaced. She is on the Godolphin Flying start programme
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Jan 24 13:56
jamee1 23 Jan 24 14:35 
I wonder what Betfair use to manage the market?

atr today.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 23 Jan 24 13:57
bf track reps vanished many yrs ago.
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