Lingfield 12:50 - Dire Wolf 216k @1.01 pink side...

could be trippier on the rev.

it's someone who is well ahead of me i know that much Mr.Hunt...

and probably well ahead of you also...

coz you don't risk 216k to win 2.16k unless you 100% KNOW it has won...

in my humble opinion...

oh and you must be pretty sure (if not 100% sure) there hasn't been any interference also.

i'd bet good money he/them don't appear again this afternoon btw...

always seem to pop off as soon as i mention him/them...

a bit like 20k 1.01 pink side photo man tbh.

BFL latency at Lingfield same as usual for me. About 1.5 secs behind TPD (via third party), and about 2 secs behind live.

Jan 15, 2024 -- 1:18PM, HappyHibby wrote:

i'd bet good money he/them don't appear again this afternoon btw...always seem to pop off as soon as i mention him/them...a bit like 20k 1.01 pink side photo man tbh.

Perhaps these dodgy heavyweights throwing their millions around with no bet-delay watch out for your posts on here so they know when they've been rumbled?

good point 'jamee'...

i never thought of that tbh.

Bloke with 216k to splash around looking out for posts on the Betfair forum

You have to wonder how that person got that 216k?

the whole thing is weird imv sparrow.

Counsel...

miles clear...

no chance of any interference...

does 216k 1.01 pink side man appear ?

NOPE.

Certainly is to me,hibby.

in all honesty sparrow...

it seems to be in 55k chunks...

seen it load up that way before...

will be the same person tho imv.

I must take a closer look and watch out for this mysterious punting.

what i don't get is why you would do it once in a blue moon..

they not appear again for weeks ?

makes no sense to me whatsoever tbh.

he/she/it/they probably won't appear for a few weeks now sparrow.

Strange carry on, hibby.

funnier than Carry On Cleo tbh sparrow...

i probably don't spot him/her/it/they every single time tbf...

but it sticks out like a sore thumb when you do spot it tbh.

there used to be a bloke on twitter who used to recreate markets and pop them on there tbh sparrow...

pity he stopped coz this sort of thing would be ideal to pop on there imv.

I rarely look at Twitter so wouldn't have noticed.

i think he was politely asked to stop doing it tbh sparrow.

think it was jamesdean who told me about him tbh sparrow...

anyone on this thread remember him ?

when was this 216k at 1.01 ?

was 5k here

Lingfield 12:50 - Dire Wolf 216k @1.01 pink side...

you must have been looking at a different market to me the only 1.01 bet was 5.7kish at 1.01 , thats how it stayed til the suspend, for me

Jan 15, 2024 -- 2:47PM, kjansch wrote:

you must have been looking at a different market to me the only 1.01 bet was 5.7kish at 1.01 , thats how it stayed til the suspend, for me

£5.7k available or matched?

the plot thickens

you must have been looking at a different market to me the only 1.01 bet was 5.7kish at 1.01 , thats how it stayed til the suspend, for me

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216k at 1.01 pink side as the end of race suspend went up...

absolutely 100% no doubt about it...

i know what i see tbh.

216/2 = 108

Get hulk on the case.

Jan 15, 2024 -- 3:01PM, HappyHibby wrote:

you must have been looking at a different market to me the only 1.01 bet was 5.7kish at 1.01 , thats how it stayed til the suspend, for me--------------------------------------------------------------------------... at 1.01 pink side as the end of race suspend went up...absolutely 100% no doubt about it...i know what i see tbh.

Ok maybe you have virtual bets on?

Im looking at a recording of the race and it is just over 5.7kEUR in the pink on the run in to lay,it increases to just over 6k and then goes down to around 5k before suspension

Perhaps BF feed Hibby different numbers to try keep him off the scent.

kjansch...

i know what i saw...

i know what i've seen...

and my eyes don't tell my brain lies.

Jan 15, 2024 -- 3:38PM, HappyHibby wrote:

kjansch...i know what i saw...i know what i've seen...and my eyes don't tell my brain lies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMB0VV1HiPg&ab_channel=BetAngel

Ok maybe you have virtual bets on? 

Crossing matching! Of course. So Betfair is cross-matching all the £££s available to back at 1000 on the field, to create a 'virtual' £216k available to lay on the winning horse.

Well done Kjansch.

bear in mind lads HappyHibby has a low IQ

289 replies in 15 years...

fk me.

https://twitter.com/lingfield628291/status/1746946382693376264

well all i can say is i can 100% guarantee you i saw it with my 2 eyes kjansch...

the person who did that video..

do they have 'show cross matched prices' and/or 'apply cross matching formula in recognised markets' ticked ?

coz i do.

no Happyhibby they don't

Jan 15, 2024 -- 5:45PM, HappyHibby wrote:

well all i can say is i can 100% guarantee you i saw it with my 2 eyes kjansch...the person who did that video..do they have 'show cross matched prices' and/or 'apply cross matching formula in recognised markets' ticked ?coz i do.

Cross-matching makes total logical sense and explains why you saw it even though it wasn't really there. Did you watch the youtube video? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMB0VV1HiPg&ab_channel=BetAngel

The twitter video posted would have been without virtual money which explains why the £216k was not visible.

kjansch/jamee...

sounds like that is the difference then...

so if 216k @1.01 is a cross matching 'bet'...

how come it only appears once in a blue moon ?

coz i would suggest the amounts on the blue side are generally the same race in race out...

and i would guess that is where the cross matching liquidity comes from on the pink side ?

only thing i can think of is someone put in big lays at 100 on everything but the winner and it was 'cross matched' to the winner at 1.01 on the pink side ?

but as everything but the winner was at 1000 you wouldn't be able to spot it with only 3 price tabs open.

i've just ticked 'highlight liquidity created by cross matching'...

just for a laugh.

kjansch...

any chance of recreating that market using 'ladders' in place of 'grid' ?

that way you will see the activity on the BLUE side of the 'other' horses that actually created the 1.01 216k activity on the winner.

ta.

and if you can recreate it with the boxes ticked i have ticked then the 216k will be shown...

thank you again.

I would think most of us on here have pressed the wrong button before, that alone would stop me leaving a big amount on here. Not that I have a spare £216 K anyway.

it seems pretty clear it was the x-matching BOT that created the 216k tbh second again.

Case solved.

would still like to see the bets that actually made it happen tbh swifty.

kjansch ?

not sure if he's recorded grid only. Is the assumption that maybe 11 other horses were being offered at 1000 for about 20quid?

ok, seen it was a 6 runner race so maybe £43 at the max on the other five (or equivalent total)

i reckon the lays would be around the 100 mark tbh swifty...

that is pure guesswork tho...

i don't mind admitting the inner workings of the x-matching BOT is a bit of a mystery to me....

but as i've said before it seems to go in in chunks of 55k on the pink 1.01 side...

and it always seems to be around 210-250k at the 1.01 end...

which would mean the person would be hitting the 100 mark for about 4 to 5 horses...

if that makes sense ?

but i am guessing which is why it would be good to see that market in ladder form tbh.

I dont have a ladder recording sorry

on the grid display all five beaten horses are 3 figures at 1000 when the market suspends at end of race , the lowest being 237Eur the highest 537Eur, thats quite unusual in itself

You do get the odd flat race where a three figure layer at 1000 appears out of nowhere having not appeared previously

no probs kjansch...

no idea if you can tick the boxes i have ticked (prior to this race yesterday) so that when it happens next time your recording will show the x-matching amount at 1.01 pink side ?

don't worry about it if you can't be @r$ed btw.