Best day for mths...

meanwhile in the past you have told me you ALWAYS get in 1st...

correct hibs...things evolve.

you'll never beat the 20k 1.01 pink side bloke Mr.Hunt...

managed it twice today.

did you not read what i said above Mr.Hunt ?

20k 1.01 pink side bloke is on an extended holiday...

every time i see him and mention it on here he goes off on holiday rather sharply...

strange don't you think ?

last race was 10k in pink wen opened..sew he's about.

and was he in in under 1 sec ?

silly Q tbh...

coz even if you saw he was you would say he wasn't.

impos to time.

you know the difference between 1.2 secs and 0.2 to 0.5 secs mr.Hunt...

it's obvious...

i might not be the most intelligent person who has ever walked Planet Earth...

but i ain't the thickest either.

don't ask for a vote

timing wen it unsuspends and timing when a bet appears is alomost impos.

elise appears to be stalking me now...

very strange.

no it ain't Mr.Hunt...

it's bleedin obvious man...

stop playing the 'everything is above board' card ffs.

hard to avoid you when you're on every thread with your latest conspiracy theory, but as you sad y'day, you're no expert

there ain't no 'latest' conspiracy theory...

my theories have been with me for years...

and until it is shown i am wrong i will carry on with them...

no i'm no expert on anything...

if you are well done...

you 'jamee' and Mr.Hunt should get together some time...

pat each other on the back every 5 minutes.

tell me hibs..how ewe precisely time when bet is accepted from the suspend?

i didn't say it was precise Mr.Hunt...

but i know how lonbg my bets take to hit the system (1.2 secs app)...

so when i see one hitting the system in an absolute blink of an eye...

i know something ain't right...

folk can slag me off all they want on here...

i know what i see Mr.Hunt...

and others have seen it too...

unfortunately they won't admit it now but hey ho.

being wrong and mis-informed for years doesn't make you right, you're just a typical i can't do it it's all bent merchant

get your api interface, subscribe to tpd, buy some drone pics, work out a few edges then find out if you have the skills & mental ability and once you've realised you don't you might at least be able to work out how some do so you can stop your fecking constant whine

Fair comment elise, I was simply going to say about the fundamentals of speed of connection, individual reaction time and type of equipment used, much the same thing imo. Breaking times down to less than a second is impossible hibby considering simple fundamentals imo.

oh God...

here's another one ffs.

the site has been sharked for years, it's nothing new, there are always people with an advantage, they are just different ones to those 20 years ago, those that can adjust survive, the rest go skint or quit, the well is dry, the systems are efficient, the plebs are broke, the house has an advantage, what we have left are a few that can still make it pay and a load of people scrapping about over a few quid and wishing it was the good old days, well it's not and it never will be so you have a simple choice, adapt or die

Are you suffering from the Ellison stable banging in winners hibby, maybe time to bring Quixall back whilst they are hot?

i don't disagree with any of that elise.

Me neither, I said as much on rico's rebranded fred.

managed to get in 1st

did you get in front of padi's 20k 1.01 pre-load or did the boys in dublin just have it switched off ??

WHAT YOU WILL DO As a Sports Trader, you will work in a customer-focused team spanning Dublin and Leeds, with the following exciting responsibilities : tracking customer engagement with our products and working with colleagues to manage liabilities and reduce risk Loading 20k at 1.01 clear foto winners before Rico gets a fookin chance Liaising with operations teams to ensure timely delivery and settlement of markets for customers Contributing to brand commercial strategies for key events and giving input into each brand's headline offer 

wtf

saddo...

some folk on here seem to think coz i have plenty to say about the dark side on here it means i'm struggling big time...

and whilst it's blatantly obvious it's a hell of a lot harder than it was a decade ago...

it doesn't mean i'm out on the streets every day asking for some spare change please...

i talk about the dark side coz some of the things i have seen simply ain't right...

and i also know that when money is involved there will be stuff going on in the background where folk are (shall we say) cutting corners...

most folk don't want to talk about that sort of thing...

that's up to them...

but it seems that when i talk about them all i get is abuse...

i get accused of being someone i ain't...

folk who have changed their names come out of the woodwork and all of a sudden start haranguing me...

i ain't the sort of person who wants to talk about this trainer being great and that jockey being wonderful and this pundit being outstanding etc...

that sort of crap doesn't interest me in the slightest...

i say what i see...

and i'm happy to say what always happens when decent amounts of cash is floating about...

folk cut corners...

the 20k 1.01 pink side bloke...

i know there are folk on here who have told me they have seen the same thing...

i won't name them coz it's obvious they don't want to be part of the conversation...

fair enough...

but i can't see things and just let them go...

it ain't my nature to do that...

anyway i won't lose sleep over it...

just find it bizare saddo.

and what if it's not betfair?

remote access? tv program incoming

i'll just add that steve told u he got matched today which you're struggling with, well i do similar most days but i'm not after the 1.01 winner, same process so if he can do it an i can do it and another few hundred can do it, it's just a fecking race to be first and ifd you want to join the race figure it out

swifty, you know from a pm conversation we had months ago about one aspect of this because we discussed the pros and cons at that time, it's obv changed since then but the angle would be you asked and you looked yourself, made some effort to get a handle on it rather than just getting smacked in the face by what they were doing

and what if it's not betfair?

only one person / company has the capability to identify bets placed by individually selected (flagged) accounts.  and place bets in front of them.  either manually (via a trader) or automatically (via a bot). 

that person / company is the owners of the site. 

unless you can provide a full list of all the bets i placed on the 15:12 at Naas ??

elise, maybe HH has had a look. Unfortunately the different angles/tools available haven't led to an increase in liquidity, quite the opposite.

who moved my cheese

hulk, ive told you b4, get off the betfair interface

i'll also tell you on several nights last summer i was sticking up 108s all over the place for you to pish yourself on, sorry about that but i did find it rather funny

elise 12 Jan 24 19:56 
hulk, ive told you b4, get off the betfair interface

i'll also tell you on several nights last summer i was sticking up 108s all over the place for you to pish yourself on, sorry about that but i did find it rather funny

What an absolute fkn helmet you are……ffs

hello fat boy, how's the diet going?

i was sticking up 108s all over the place for you to pish yourself on

interesting.  how may i ask did you know what my bets were so you could stick them up one tick under ??

what i'll do now is go to the racing markets for tomorrow, place a back bet on one horse running and you can stick up £108 one tick under, ok ? 

of course, you'll say how the fk will i know which bet is yours.

answer is you won't.

but a bf trader will.  his bot will.

that's my point. 

hth.

one click, ba, ladder, fill the gaps

this is the script...
when theres a photo i try to stop the atr/rtv pic on the line live..most times i get it spot on..odd times i dont..
IF i get it near enuff on line to identify the winner and BF have opened the market quickly witch they mostly do..but,sometimes they dont, i crash in and sometimes get great value before they go really short,but,for a while now on occasions when its a clear winner,ie,over 5-6" as soon as the market opens theres a chunk instantly in the pink...there is no rime or reason to it but even if you're multi clicking while suspended you rarely get a match when it does open.

and the light flickers

Where’s the other peddle bin ?

it's prob outside your garage door with all of those  potted conifers you had lined up

Horse Racing: £667.25
Total P&L: £667.25
Horse Racing
Showing 1 - 33 of 33 markets
Market
Start time    Settled date    Profit/Loss (£)
Horse Racing / Wolverhampton 12th Jan : 6f Hcap
12-Jan-24 18:30    12-Jan-24 18:32    4.15
Horse Racing / Dundalk 12th Jan : 1m Hcap
12-Jan-24 18:15    12-Jan-24 18:19    14.04
Horse Racing / Wolverhampton 12th Jan : 1m Mdn Stks
12-Jan-24 18:00    12-Jan-24 18:04    18.31
Horse Racing / Dundalk 12th Jan : 1m Mdn
12-Jan-24 17:45    12-Jan-24 17:49    4.81
Horse Racing / Wolverhampton 12th Jan : 1m1f Hcap
12-Jan-24 17:30    12-Jan-24 17:34    10.78
Horse Racing / Dundalk 12th Jan : 1m Mdn
12-Jan-24 17:15    12-Jan-24 17:18    2.94
Horse Racing / Wolverhampton 12th Jan : 7f Hcap
12-Jan-24 17:00    12-Jan-24 17:04    12.95
Horse Racing / Dundalk 12th Jan : 7f Hcap
12-Jan-24 16:45    12-Jan-24 16:48    2.94
Horse Racing / Dundalk 12th Jan : 6f Hcap
12-Jan-24 16:10    12-Jan-24 16:16    1.82
Horse Racing / Huntingdon 12th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Chs
12-Jan-24 15:55    12-Jan-24 16:01    3.29
Horse Racing / Sedgefield 12th Jan : 2m1f NHF
12-Jan-24 15:42    12-Jan-24 15:56    20.69
Horse Racing / Naas 12th Jan : 2m INHF
12-Jan-24 15:47    12-Jan-24 15:54    9.64
Horse Racing / Wincanton 12th Jan : 1m7f Mdn Hrd
12-Jan-24 15:30    12-Jan-24 15:42    6.29
Horse Racing / Huntingdon 12th Jan : 2m7f Hcap Chs
12-Jan-24 15:20    12-Jan-24 15:28    7.15
Horse Racing / Naas 12th Jan : 2m3f Hcap Hrd
12-Jan-24 15:12    12-Jan-24 15:24    149.03
Horse Racing / Sedgefield 12th Jan : 2m1f Hcap Hrd
12-Jan-24 15:07    12-Jan-24 15:18    7.57
Horse Racing / Wincanton 12th Jan : 3m Mdn Hrd
12-Jan-24 15:00    12-Jan-24 15:10    9.67
Horse Racing / Huntingdon 12th Jan : 2m Juv Hrd
12-Jan-24 14:50    12-Jan-24 14:56    8.82
Horse Racing / Naas 12th Jan : 2m Hcap Hrd
12-Jan-24 14:42    12-Jan-24 14:50    8.06
Horse Racing / Wincanton 12th Jan : 1m7f Nov Hcap Hrd
12-Jan-24 14:30    12-Jan-24 14:46    34.87
Horse Racing / Huntingdon 12th Jan : 2m Nov Hrd
12-Jan-24 14:20    12-Jan-24 14:24    1.70
Horse Racing / Naas 12th Jan : 2m Mdn Hrd
12-Jan-24 14:12    12-Jan-24 14:21    7.87
Horse Racing / Sedgefield 12th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Hrd
12-Jan-24 14:07    12-Jan-24 14:14    14.41
Horse Racing / Wincanton 12th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Chs
12-Jan-24 14:00    12-Jan-24 14:08    2.94
Horse Racing / Huntingdon 12th Jan : 2m4f Nov Hrd
12-Jan-24 13:50    12-Jan-24 13:57    2.94
Horse Racing / Naas 12th Jan : 2m4f Grd1 Nov Hrd
12-Jan-24 13:42    12-Jan-24 13:49    5.88
Horse Racing / Sedgefield 12th Jan : 2m5f Nov Hcap Chs
12-Jan-24 13:37    12-Jan-24 13:45    5.37
Horse Racing / Wincanton 12th Jan : 2m4f Hcap Hrd
12-Jan-24 13:30    12-Jan-24 13:44    258.46
Horse Racing / Huntingdon 12th Jan : 2m3f Hcap Hrd
12-Jan-24 13:20    12-Jan-24 13:26    3.72
Horse Racing / Naas 12th Jan : 2m Hcap Chs
12-Jan-24 13:12    12-Jan-24 13:19    4.90
Horse Racing / Sedgefield 12th Jan : 2m4f Mdn Hrd
12-Jan-24 13:07    12-Jan-24 13:17    8.48
Horse Racing / Wincanton 12th Jan : 2m4f Nov Hcap Chs
12-Jan-24 13:00    12-Jan-24 13:06    4.04
Horse Racing / Naas 12th Jan : 2m Nov Chs
12-Jan-24 12:42    12-Jan-24 12:49    8.72

as elsie sez..technology has taken over in running..last 3f is brutally hard as its all controlled and theres nothing free anymore..tis wot it is sew onwards we go.

one angle is switch from racing, understand some don't want to but sometimes you need to look at easier markets with the right make up

Yew still laying 100 WINNERS in 3 runner races Rico?????

not today.

Yew we're caught out son. Not as good as you claim sadly.

everyone gets caught slickster, the difference was it took a days to fix years back and now it can take weeks lol

or mths elsie..

Slick ain't been caught. And unlikely to be.

well fair play and good luck, im away to cook a steak and open a red

I feel a challenge coming on Rico vs Slickster lifetime p/l about to be posted   

slick int won 3 million eether.

slickers been around for ages, can't rem who he used to post as but he used to wind one of the irish lot up, he's ok he just likes his laugh

slickers wears knickers.

#FACT

Fair enough elise , didn't think slicks was ever serious but didn't know his previous username , i'll leave him alone from now on   

when its a clear winner,ie,over 5-6" as soon as the market opens theres a chunk instantly in the pink

either 'someone' has the capacity to bet with zero delay, or 'someone' can load bets on when the market is suspended so that it's sitting there on the unsuspend.  and beating you.

now who do you reckon that could be ...... ??

Slick has NEVER had another username elise or hulk. FACT. Thank u.

No knickers denial tho?

eye conquer,but,how khan they be certain there wont be a stewards?

krotchless wuns swifty wiv his testikoolies dangling.

You can have a stewards Rico but.... RESULT STANDS.

how khan they be certain there wont be a stewards?

same way you khan when you're furiously banging the back button trying to get on at 1.05

ive done thousands in dozens of times betting on photos and winner being disq.

you make it back though

and they can see that.  they can see everything you do.  hence they want to stop you.

because the only person they want winning on 'ere is them.

they're not fkng daft.  not sitting there saying this rico character does quite well, how does he do it, not bothered. 

of course they're fkng bothered.  all about dosh on here, if you can do it so can they.

how does he do it ??  backs clear winners on photos at 20 grand a pop.

ok, we'll fkng do that too.  just make sure we're in front of him, take away the delay or pre-load it when the markets suspended, he can't do that.

i concur with ewe...as ive said..technology has evolved to give them the edge.

but,how are they so sure its won before the slo mo appears?

flutters worth £22.59 billion.  think they give a fk about losing a few grand on a stewards ??

dont think its that blase..ewe cant be risking £10,000 unless sure when you're winning £200.

you can't, certainly.

it's not betfair, but it could be someone with a bespoke arrangement with betfair, a market seeder, maybe a perk is 0 secs bet placement, granted that doesn't explain how the money gets loaded during suspension.

a company the size of betfair wanting a trader to nick £100 at a time betting 1.01s in photos, no chance.

if you're making a million a year from photos, with a few reversals along the way.  do you really think he's not going to have his traders take a look at what you're doing and task them with doing the same thing ?  at your expense.  with the advantage he holds he'd be a fkng idiot if he didn't.

funny ewe menchun that swifty..no names menchunned,im aware of a syndicate that seed football/golf markets,obscure markets ...they dont pay PC.

scandalous.

hulk23Jan 24 21:12 
if you're making a million a year from photos

if ewe had the privilege to get £10,000 in at 101 before the market unsuspends you're obv only gona win up to £100 max..it may happen twice a week.

perhaps it's more to stop you getting on. 

same way when they stick £108 up at 7.8 when you're in at 8.0 it's not because they think it's going to win, it's to stop you getting on. 

??

Per Hulk's post at 21:12

That goes on for sure , I worked as a consultant for **** ****** and one revised strategy was not to restrict the top echelon winning punters but to take bets , follow them in and exacerbate the transaction.

It's still used in at least one decent sized company for sure.

but as ive stated before..they can only jump in front if there are gaps in the market.

why would they do that ?

cos they can see you've laid it at 7.4

they can see everything ....

can someone explain this to me please?

can someone explain this to me please?

munich are way better than hoffenheim.  harry kane etc

bet 1.08..now 1.01 to lay..other 2 1000 and if i click close positions its a £6 loss.

Rico, many moons ago when i was whinging about my fixed rate they offered a free training course on market seeding with a new rate if I added more liquidity. So there are deals out there.

simply wrong tho.

maybe, in the old days punters provided liquidity, arbing with the bookies, now they can't get a bean on with the bookies hence a.m. markets are dead

hulk23 12 Jan 24 20:40 

when its a clear winner,ie,over 5-6" as soon as the market opens theres a chunk instantly in the pink

either 'someone' has the capacity to bet with zero delay, or 'someone' can load bets on when the market is suspended so that it's sitting there on the unsuspend.  and beating you.

now who do you reckon that could be ...... ??

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it's obviously the man in the fkn moon hulk ffs.

Rico-Dangleflaps 12 Jan 24 20:59 

i concur with ewe...as ive said..technology has evolved to give them the edge.

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for years i've been banging on about 20k 1.01 pink side bloke who gets in very very very quick...

for years you have poo poo'd it...

told me i'm a conspiracy theorist...

told me i'm a clown...

told me to fodc...

no doubt put me on one of your childish lists...

but NOW you have come round to my way of thinking...

so when does the apology appear Mr.Hunt ?

or are you not big enough to do such things ?

for years i've been banging on about 20k 1.01 pink side bloke who gets in very very very quick...

not everytime.

takes guts to hold your hands up and say 'sorry - i was wrong'...

fair enough.

not everytime.

too proud to say 'i'm sorry'...

wouldn't look good for all your buddies on here to see you do the right thing...

no problem...

an apology would mean nowt to me anyway.

for years i've been banging on about 20k 1.01 pink side bloke who gets in very very very quick...

no where near 20k..no where near for yrs..and isnt in veery very quick everytime..i beat him twice yest..wonder why that was?

i told you yesterday i hadn't seen him for ages.

he went AWOL for a while after i last mentioned him on here.

which is why i hadn't mentioned him for a while.

he went AWOL for a while after i last mentioned him on here.

so have ewe on plenty of occassions..isset ewe?

if i had a 0 sec in running delay account i would be doing my best to poo poo it if anyone ever mentioned it Mr.Hunt...

come to think of it quite a few on here do poo poo it.

Races every 5 minutes

God bless the hib.....were ever he may b