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when is this issue going to be addressed?

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By:
differentdrum
When: 11 Nov 23 13:19
What can they do? Would starting earlier help at all? Probably not, but it is happening more and more, and turning races into a farce. We have enough flat racing as it is.
By:
dambuster
When: 11 Nov 23 13:23
Was there no sunshine 20 years ago.?
Never use to happen
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Nov 23 13:24
COC said there is nowt they can do about it...

i'm sorry but that is NEVER an answer.
By:
dambuster
When: 11 Nov 23 13:25
COC in other words,can't be bothered
By:
in hell
When: 11 Nov 23 13:35
The sun isn't directly head on to the hurdles and is from around 10 o clock.

Ridiculous
By:
barstool
When: 11 Nov 23 13:37
Coulld always try sunglasses.
By:
stu
When: 11 Nov 23 13:42
I must have missed when the sun shining suddenly became a big issue must admit. I realise there could be extreme cases where a fence is made slightly shadowed or blind by very very low sun - but they seem to do it all the flaming time these days just because there's a bit of sun shining on a fence!
By:
Tiger Tiger
When: 11 Nov 23 13:44
eVysor Equine Goggles for horses have been available for a number of years at around £200 a pop, used a lot in Equestrian events, can only assume that they have been deemed not suitable for horse racing or else surely they would have been used by now?
By:
steerforth
When: 11 Nov 23 13:54
Its a farce and one reason I have stopped betting on NH racing. No point in spending any time looking at form.
By:
Ibrahima Sonko
When: 11 Nov 23 14:16
this is the last......
By:
barstool
When: 11 Nov 23 14:16
The horses are probably ok with it. Not so the jockeys. Thinking more of a tinted visor or goggles for them with my comment.

If you have a good jumper why waste an entry at Aintree in the Autumn.
By:
keithmac
When: 11 Nov 23 14:25
I was at the last Aintree meeting. I was stood next to the final hurdle. Harry Skelton instead of going to the start came to the hurdle to test how the sun may affect the riders. The sun by that stage was at 2 o’clock and a giant cloud was approaching. Skelton indicated to those close by that there was no problem and he made his way to the start. The stewards still decided that the hurdles in the home straight should be omitted
By:
keithmac
When: 11 Nov 23 14:25
I was at the last Aintree meeting. I was stood next to the final hurdle. Harry Skelton instead of going to the start came to the hurdle to test how the sun may affect the riders. The sun by that stage was at 2 o’clock and a giant cloud was approaching. Skelton indicated to those close by that there was no problem and he made his way to the start. The stewards still decided that the hurdles in the home straight should be omitted
By:
mrcombustible
When: 11 Nov 23 14:51
6 minutes late at Aintree on a busy day, split screen Kelso
By:
.Marksman.
When: 11 Nov 23 15:07
Looked out of my window just as the last race at Aintree (14:45) was going to start and the sun wasn't that low at all.  Didn't see what the problem was. The longer they just stand there talking about it, the further down the sun goes.  Disgrace.
Just checked sunset in Liverpool today is: 16:22
By:
.Marksman.
When: 11 Nov 23 15:23
Getting worse: missing 4 from this race.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Nov 23 15:54
memo to the clowns who run Aintree Racecourse...

might be a good idea to re-schedule the bumper next year ?

so there IS something you could do.
By:
Sir Epicure Mammon
When: 11 Nov 23 18:00
Do they ever miss out jumps for low sun in France ?
By:
barstool
When: 11 Nov 23 18:06
Might be a good idea if the starter just said those who want to race line up and have the others withdraw.

Sure some of the lads who dont get many rides would give it a go.
By:
strontium
When: 11 Nov 23 21:48
Yes, can at least order the racecard so the biggest races of the day will not be affected, even if that means running them at the start/end of the card and running the bumper/conditionals handicap in the middle.

Humans have been able to predict the position of the sun for thousands of years. Unless they work in race planning.
By:
CROPSICK
When: 11 Nov 23 22:02
No fences missed out in France due to low sun.
By:
duffy
When: 11 Nov 23 22:19
And yet in France they just get on with it with no bother
By:
duffy
When: 11 Nov 23 22:19
Didn't see thatGrin
By:
ladycarla
When: 12 Nov 23 00:18
Never happy low sun too much sun too much rain not enough rain frozen tracks add in fog and early dark nights why bother Cry
By:
HappyHibby
When: 12 Nov 23 10:20
why they don't use drones to block the sun out is something i will never understand...

can't be too difficult to attach some sort of polythene sheet to a couple of drones...

to say there is NOWT we can do is just poppyc0ck piffle from Sulika Varma.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 12 Nov 23 10:24
Heavy lift drones, designed for commercial and industrial use, can carry substantial payloads from 5 to 20 kilograms (10-45 lbs), with some models capable of even more.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 12 Nov 23 10:28
What is the heaviest drone you can fly?

Model                            Max lifting weight    Drone type

JOUAV CW-80E                    25 kg (55 lbs)            VTOL
Draganfly Heavy Lift Drone    30 kg (66 lbs)            Octocopters
Ehang 184                    100 kg (220 lbs)    Octocopters
GRIFF Aviation 300            227 kg (500 lbs)    Octocopters
By:
HappyHibby
When: 12 Nov 23 15:20
Naas...

i'm sorry but no way should the last 2 fences in the home straight have been excluded there...

they showed a view down the home straight from the final bend and there was no issue at all...

no glaring sun (which looked to me like it was coming from the side)...

a dreadful decision imv.
By:
steerforth
When: 12 Nov 23 15:55
Fences, no fences, fast soft or heavy, rain hail or shine - it doesn't matter. Every race boils down to one choice and one choice only. Lay or back the Mullins horse? And whatever you do it'll be wrong. Irish jumping is desperate.
By:
04arsenalfc.
When: 12 Nov 23 18:03
Doesn't say a lot for English jumps then does it...
By:
sageform
When: 12 Nov 23 19:52
The Irish may have the best horses but when 3 yards have around 60% of the runners and all of the ones with any chance in many races, it is not a great watch. With so much racing on, I choose to ignore the Irish to give me time to study the English.
By:
Sir Epicure Mammon
When: 13 Nov 23 00:10
Wonder why they don't have to miss out fences for low sun in France then ?
Is it because they school their horses better and teach them to jump with minimal assistance from the saddle?
By:
Somerset Sam
When: 13 Nov 23 04:51

Nov 12, 2023 -- 3:20PM, HappyHibby wrote:


Naas...i'm sorry but no way should the last 2 fences in the home straight have been excluded there...they showed a view down the home straight from the final bend and there was no issue at all...no glaring sun (which looked to me like it was coming from the side)...a dreadful decision imv.


Absolutely spot on, look at the shadows during the beginners chase, they're literally at right angles to the fences that were dolled off, meaning the sun cannot be in the faces of horse or jockey

Jump Jockeys not wanting to jump fences, jesus wept.

By:
sageform
When: 13 Nov 23 08:45
The courses are happy as there is less fence repair to do, trainers get less fallers and bumps and bruises to deal with. Everyone is happy apart from spectators.
By:
strontium
When: 13 Nov 23 10:11
Sage - that's an argument for making every race a flat race.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 13 Nov 23 12:55
wouldn't surprise me if Paul Townend blamed the low sun on his earlier faller and the stewards decided to whip out the last 2 fences at Naas...???

i might be wrong tho.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 13 Nov 23 12:56
oh dear...

here we go again...

Fakenham Farce now.
By:
sageform
When: 13 Nov 23 13:18
strontium, together with the animal welfare folk, low sun etc could easily finish jumping in 10 years.
By:
in hell
When: 13 Nov 23 13:31
More rubbish with the sun, shadows look like it's side on again
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