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cacique
28 Oct 23 17:07
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Is he any good?
Where would i get his historical picks,,,, He pricked my ears when he said Honeysuckle couldn't win the 2023 mares hurdle.

And then today he said Flooring Porter couldn't win...



https://www.racingpost.com/news/opinion/comment/flooring-porter-is-the-lay-of-the-weekend-i-just-cant-have-him-on-my-mind-for-his-chase-debut-ajiJk0k4ncPl/
https://www.racingpost.com/news/opinion/comment/im-taking-on-facile-vega-honeysuckle-and-gaillard-du-mesnil-none-of-them-will-win-aK8dv1E0JoH2/

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By:
the dealer
When: 28 Oct 23 17:16
He is sometimes on a podcast called upping the ante, well worth a watch
By:
Ramruma
When: 28 Oct 23 17:40
Upping the Ante returns to the Racing Post Youtube channel on Tuesday, 7th November, or in a week and a half.
By:
cacique
When: 28 Oct 23 17:43
Are they any good at picking winners/value bets?
By:
tanglefoot
When: 28 Oct 23 18:16
Ex bookmaker,prof punter,gets info and only backs non handicaps.
By:
tanglefoot
When: 28 Oct 23 18:20
Not sure about Flooring Porter though made it one of better bets today,shows we can all get it wrong
By:
cacique
When: 28 Oct 23 18:26
Ok.. I'll listen to the podcasts
thanks
By:
the dealer
When: 28 Oct 23 18:34
He is quite a funny guy, always found the podcast  entertaining
By:
formoftheace
When: 28 Oct 23 18:38
I don’t rate the guy…..
By:
Cider
When: 28 Oct 23 18:44
He did the betting people thing if you're keen...
By:
cacique
When: 28 Oct 23 18:45
@ Formoftheaces
based on.... ?

His opinion cannot be great if he completely wrote off Flooring Porter on chasing debut and now is 10/1 to win at the festival.
I think the best opportunity for a classy hurdler is to win on his chase debut... they mightn't do much else after.

This must be the opportunity to mine his selections!!
By:
cacique
When: 28 Oct 23 18:45

Oct 28, 2023 -- 6:44PM, Cider wrote:


He did the betting people thing if you're keen...


? whats that

By:
formoftheace
When: 28 Oct 23 18:47
Just like the rest of us since the game began……opinions…nothing else

Pricewise used to be the risen look now….ffs

The all come and go…..
By:
formoftheace
When: 28 Oct 23 18:49
People ‘tip’ golf and cricket ffs……
By:
Cider
When: 28 Oct 23 18:51
.https://www.starsportsbet.co.uk/bettingpeople-johnny-dineen/
By:
cacique
When: 28 Oct 23 18:55
I don't mind so much people tipping other sports...

But call out the good players before they become famous.
Who is the next Sachin Tendulkar, Roger Federer, Wayne Grezty, Stephen Hendry amongst the current under 12's?
By:
Hayden
When: 28 Oct 23 19:00
Never be another Gretzky for me , Sydney Crosby & Connor McDavid have excelled but Gretzky will always be the daddy  Happy
By:
impossible123
When: 28 Oct 23 19:43
He's always bigging up his selections. I hope he's betting with his own money otherwise karma will catch up with him sooner rather than later.
By:
wondersobright
When: 28 Oct 23 19:49
was against FP @ odds on & said evens was about its price
By:
wondersobright
When: 28 Oct 23 19:49
lots of cromwell donoghue pink button action you are going to lose imo
By:
mrcombustible
When: 28 Oct 23 20:32
He often naps a Mullins/Townend odds on fav in a novice hurdle and they often lose.

I no longer read him
By:
comingupthehill
When: 28 Oct 23 20:37
He’s pretty good,knows a lot. He said at last years festival,Nichols wouldn’t have more than 1 winner,he had 2 so was only out by 1.he knows his onions,plus entertaining.always has winners.
By:
mrcombustible
When: 28 Oct 23 20:44
I could have told you that about Nicholls, he wins very little at the festival nowadays
By:
strontium
When: 28 Oct 23 20:57
So he was only wrong about Nicholls by 100%?
By:
cacique
When: 28 Oct 23 21:13
Any other podcasts worth listening to?
I've not listened to "upping the ante" yet,,,
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 28 Oct 23 23:29
I think it is impossible to judge these "pundits" that you see on YouTube or racing channels/papers.

They have to pick horses for Cheltenham months in advance or the big races shown on terrestrial TV.

Most of us know it is impossible to have an opinion on every race, so will only specialise in a certain division of racing.

As entertainment value, Jonny is right up there.

Does not take himself seriously and sees it for what it is.
By:
geoff m
When: 29 Oct 23 08:44
Mum was mortified when i told her i was going to watch "Upping the Ante".
By:
lead on
When: 29 Oct 23 08:57
just about legal..quite common up in the Black isle..
By:
Ramruma
When: 29 Oct 23 20:03
Today's Paddy Power NH season preview podcast has Johnny Dineen along with Ruby Walsh and Frank Hickey.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0iKtmqxuTw
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Oct 23 20:25
Gavin lynch was worth a listen.
Calvin’s is ok
Road to chelt always good.

There are some shockers.they drone on and seem to be doing it from their bedroom.

A lot of jumps fans,chelt fans,will listen to anything anyway,so even the shockers are worth listening to.
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Oct 23 20:38
Do they do money back if tipping a loser? These charlatans are voicing for their paymasters ie the bookies.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Oct 23 20:38
dineen has strong opinions but he never specifies wht price he is laying or backing

did he lay porter at 6/4? or the nicholls thing he was dead against that also won. if so, hes had a bad day

aside from that hes ok and at least hes there to look foolish, as he frequently does
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Oct 23 20:40
usual bollox from unbearable321

you think dineen is paid to give out losers?
By:
comingupthehill
When: 29 Oct 23 20:43
They are employed to stimulate interest,to offer a view.what else can they do.say nothing,it would be a bit boring if no one commented on a race for fear of tipping a loser.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 29 Oct 23 20:47
Mitolo.
All about opinion  I took 2 on laid flying porter and the one of Nicholls for more than I would  normally  do thought  I would have to lay evens and 6/4 ending  up laying  13/8 and  5/2.thought to myself  how on earth did I lay  them prices.
By:
brandyontherocks
When: 29 Oct 23 21:02
So true Mitolo.

The lad just waffles b@ll@x continuously.
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Oct 23 21:04
all about opinions indeed ronald. one of me fave cliches

fazackerley. i was looking to be against both meself but the prices i had to lay were simply too big, so i let them go. unusual for a mug like me. but its all about choc ices
By:
duffy
When: 29 Oct 23 21:22
Here's a question, if the prices became too big to lay for any individual do they then by definition automatically become backs or is there a little space, like no mans land before they reach the back price?
By:
mitolo
When: 29 Oct 23 21:31
good q

im too opinionated to do that. i wont back certain horses no matter what, porter being one. in theory, it was 1/2

prob is if something goes for a ball of chalk you think its not off or something is wrong and when it wins you are slapping your forehead. coragh rambler on sat was one on sat. i place laid it too big but got away with it
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