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Rico-Dangleflaps
13 Oct 23 17:39
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winner carried 2nd a few yards left Plain
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Report duffy October 13, 2023 5:40 PM BST
nothing
Report asparagus October 13, 2023 5:41 PM BST
the winner followed the 2nd across rather than taking him across.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 5:42 PM BST
clear daylight between them...cud no say its cost 2nd the race?  no imo.
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:42 PM BST
0 contact
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:42 PM BST
was surprised photo betting, had 2nd as under 1.5
Report geoff m October 13, 2023 5:43 PM BST
reckon 2nd drifted winner followed. shold keep that imo.
Report geoff m October 13, 2023 5:43 PM BST
no contact
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:44 PM BST
would be ridiculous reversal, but then again we've seen them...
Report jamee1 October 13, 2023 5:45 PM BST
Long nose. No contact. Keeps it in my (usually incorrect) opinion.
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:47 PM BST
winner went off at 80. Blimey.
Report AandH October 13, 2023 5:47 PM BST
Get it overturned for the punters
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 5:47 PM BST
why not just go full time on photos and stewards Mr.Hunt ?

you are the best after all.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 5:48 PM BST
carried it 8yds left whilst a clear gap..non lost momentum..harsh to disq but seen it happen
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:49 PM BST
wtf does 'carried' mean though with 0 contact. They're allowed to run on any part if there's no other horse there to stop them...
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:49 PM BST
could say the 2nd carried the winner over to the side, or maybe 'sucked' it over Grin
Report geoff m October 13, 2023 5:50 PM BST
Its 1 of them yer wouldnt be surprised @ reversal and it gets it back on appeal!!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 5:50 PM BST
'carried' in the stewards eyes 'intimidated'.
Report Tom Salt October 13, 2023 5:50 PM BST
Guaranteed to be overturned as backed the second to win and cashed out to reduce liability. I'm used to the great celestial boot giving me a good kicking!
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:51 PM BST
which is meaningless rico, as sure you know...
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 5:51 PM BST
if the winner wasnt there would the 2nd have went same way?

not imo.
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:52 PM BST
if they chuck out these sort, may as well only run races in tracks with metal walls between every horse Laugh
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 5:52 PM BST
so you think the 2nd will get it Mr.Hunt ?
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:52 PM BST
other way around imo rico, winner followed it when it hung
Report isleham October 13, 2023 5:54 PM BST
taking their time
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 5:55 PM BST
where have i sed that hibs?
Report Big Boss October 13, 2023 5:55 PM BST
cannot have the bookies going home in profit, needs reversing
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 5:55 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps 13 Oct 23 17:48 
carried it 8yds left whilst a clear gap..non lost momentum..harsh to disq but seen it happen
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 5:56 PM BST
Rico-Dangleflaps Joined: 07 Sep 18

if the winner wasnt there would the 2nd have went same way?

not imo.

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sounds like you think the 2nd will get it to me Mr.Hunt.
Report stu October 13, 2023 5:56 PM BST
I literally have about 8 quid difference (well green both) whether this is reversed or not, but I'd still be fuming if this is reversed.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 5:57 PM BST
so if FPTP wasn't there the 2nd wouldn't have drifted...

so the FPTP caused the 2nd to drift over and lose ground...

but you don't think the 2nd past the post will get it...?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 5:59 PM BST
revised result
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:01 PM BST
so you were wrong AND right Mr.Hunt...

very good.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 6:01 PM BST
HappyHibby 13 Oct 23 17:56 
Rico-Dangleflaps Joined: 07 Sep 18

if the winner wasnt there would the 2nd have went same way?

not imo.

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sounds like you think the 2nd will get it to me Mr.Hunt.


correct hibs..wd rico.
Report Tom Salt October 13, 2023 6:01 PM BST
Told ya'
Report isleham October 13, 2023 6:01 PM BST
thats ridiculous never touched the second and dont even think it was intimidation just followed the bend
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 6:02 PM BST
stu

fuming..fire brigade called.
Report Big Boss October 13, 2023 6:02 PM BST
seen a lot worse not thrown out, plus you have to consider the conditions with tired horses
Report jamee1 October 13, 2023 6:04 PM BST
I don't think the stewards bother with assessing the race or speaking to the jocks. They just take a quick look at my Betfair P&L and go with the red.
Report geoff m October 13, 2023 6:05 PM BST
Ouch . only loss of day.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:05 PM BST
how long before someone says 'where's the consistency' ?
Report stu October 13, 2023 6:05 PM BST
Yep utterly ridiculous
Report AandH October 13, 2023 6:05 PM BST
Books on course be fuming
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 6:05 PM BST
isleham 13 Oct 23 18:01 
thats ridiculous never touched the second and dont even think it was intimidation just followed the bend


seen plenty with clear gap between them disq..stewards say its intimidation that cost the 2nd ground.. harsh today imo
Report stu October 13, 2023 6:06 PM BST
just glad I was still actually green on the race, or I'd have needed to buy a cat...
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:07 PM BST
Mr.Hunt says the original 2nd would have not gone 8 yards to the left if the original winner hadn't went that way itself...

then says it's harsh for the original winner to be chucked...

Crazy
Report stu October 13, 2023 6:08 PM BST
someone needs to nudge BF BTW or they will stay asleep on settling this again...
Report geoff m October 13, 2023 6:08 PM BST
Stooards have a few quid on @ 3s crack open the cigars/brandy & port. Gets reversed on appeal .Stooards no accountability whatsoever.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 6:08 PM BST
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 6:09 PM BST
mr hunt is the greatest photo judge and inq judge the fourum has ever scene..

#FACT!
Report hulk23 October 13, 2023 6:09 PM BST
billy the kid.

talks a good game too ... Wink
Report geoff m October 13, 2023 6:10 PM BST
Yer learn from experience thats a harsh decision , but nobody really surprised.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:14 PM BST
oh the stewards are dodgy now mr.Hunt...?

always someone else's fault.
Report duffy October 13, 2023 6:14 PM BST
crazy reversal, so now any horse that drifts one way, if it is subsequently followed by another the default is to assume that the secondary horse influenced the firstCrazy
Report bilbobaggins October 13, 2023 6:18 PM BST
By the standards of that decision whenever a steward's is called the winner has to get chucked out. Zero interference - zero intimidation. Probably the worst decision I have ever seen.
Report bilbobaggins October 13, 2023 6:18 PM BST
By the standards of that decision whenever a steward's is called the winner has to get chucked out. Zero interference - zero intimidation. Probably the worst decision I have ever seen.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:20 PM BST
duffy...

if you don't know by now there is no consistency then i have no idea what you've been watching all these years tbh.
Report bilbobaggins October 13, 2023 6:21 PM BST
I actually laid the wrong horse in the stewards and won because of it but that decision was the worst ever. No confidence in stewards ever again.
Report duffy October 13, 2023 6:23 PM BST
HappyHibby 13 Oct 23 18:20 
duffy...

if you don't know by now there is no consistency then i have no idea what you've been watching all these years tbh.


Yes, I've often thought that you'd had no ideaGrin
Report racingfish October 13, 2023 6:29 PM BST
I had the eventual winner and laid it off like a nutter, there seemed nothing in it. Oh well,  In USA I would have been more confident for sure, here i the UK it is a lottery for sure
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 6:34 PM BST
never forget..3 amateurs mekking these calls.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:42 PM BST
at least one of them is a PRO Mr.Hunt...

it's not just 3 amateurs.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:44 PM BST
An enquiry was held to consider the placings in this race after interference inside the final furlong when the winner, OSO RAPIDO (IRE), ridden by Andrew Breslin, interfered with THUNDER ROAR, placed second, ridden by Billy Loughnane. The Stewards considered that the interference had improved OSO RAPIDO (IRE)’s placing as OSO RAPIDO (IRE) had carried THUNDER ROAR off its intended line for a considerable distance and by several horses’s widths. The Stewards were satisfied that considering the official winning margin of a nose, had the interference not occurred THUNDER ROAR would have finished in front of OSO RAPIDO (IRE) and revised the placings as follows: First: THUNDER ROAR, Second: OSO RAPIDO (IRE), Third: ELDRICKJONES (IRE), Fourth: CRAVEN. Breslin was suspended for 2 days for careless riding as he allowed his mount to drift left-handed for a considerable distance without timely correction intimidating THUNDER ROAR notably off its intended line.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:44 PM BST
Adrian Sharpe (Chief Steward), Caroline Tellwright (Stewards' Panel Chair), Greg
Pearson (Steward), Josie Brown-Smith (Assistant Steward), Helen Kinsella (Raceday
Assistant)
Report geoff m October 13, 2023 6:45 PM BST
thats a complete loada boll@x from stooards. But again theyve got to make summert up.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 6:52 PM BST
so the winner carrying itself off a true line didnt cost it any distance Crazy
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 6:57 PM BST
it's clear what they are saying Mr.Hunt...

the original 2nd wanted to run in a straight line but couldn't coz the original winner was moving to the left (8 yards according to you)...

they have no idea if the original 2nd was going to run in a straight line or not...

they are just guessing...

just like we all are.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 8:39 PM BST
but,if the winner and 2nd both ran 8yds deviating left havent they both cost themselves the same distance of ground.?
Report tanglefoot October 13, 2023 8:47 PM BST
Brit stewards make it up as they go along,as mentioned seen much worse proper interference keep a race.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 8:49 PM BST
BUT the stewards have clearly come to the conclusion that the original 2nd was going to run in a straight line but COULD NOT due to the original winner going left by 8 yards (according to you)...

they are BLAMING the original winner for the original 2nd going 8 yards to the left (according to you)...

i have no idea who is to blame...

i put it in the 'i wouldn't be surprised what they did' category...

as i said they are just guessing...

like we all are.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 8:50 PM BST
jussed checked again..was 9yds.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:01 PM BST
244k at 1.01 if you want on Portugal to beat Slovakia Mr.Hunt...

2.0 as i write this.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:05 PM BST
Belgium 3 up...

trading at 1.02...

help yourself Mr.Hunt.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 9:14 PM BST
Back (Bet For)
Odds
Stake
Profit
Belgium
1.01
£44.69
£0.45
Total stake:
£44.69

ta hh.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 9:15 PM BST
portugal 2-1 Shocked
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:16 PM BST
been watching the Belgium game Mr.Hunt...

your money is safe...

Austria are awful.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:17 PM BST
3-1 Portugal...

panic over.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 9:20 PM BST
Austria are awful.

scored Happy
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:20 PM BST
3-1 Belgium...

20 yard pot shot.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 9:20 PM BST
Back (Bet For)
Odds
Stake
Profit
Belgium
1.03
£144.69
£4.45
Total stake:
£144.69
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:21 PM BST
they are huff n puff merchants Mr.Hunt...

it was a 'oh i may as well hit it' pot shot...

just relax.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:24 PM BST
good grief...

the clown ref has just sent ONANA off.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:25 PM BST
makes a good tackle...

can't help but slightly follow through...

2nd yellow...

OFF.
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:26 PM BST
Portugal 3-2...
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:29 PM BST
Austria pen...
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:30 PM BST
3-2 Belgium...

going a wee bit pear shaped tbh.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 9:33 PM BST
Surprised
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 9:39 PM BST
Back (Bet For)
Odds
Stake
Profit
Belgium
1.15
£244.69
£36.45
Total stake:
£244.69
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:42 PM BST
Portugal win 3-2...
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:43 PM BST
all over Mr.Hunt...

well played...

Belgium win 3-2.

hanging on in the end tbh.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps October 13, 2023 9:44 PM BST
happy daze
Report HappyHibby October 13, 2023 9:46 PM BST
Belgium went 3 up and relaxed too much...

red card...penalty...pot shot...made it a bit messy towards the end...

wasn't impressed with Belgium tbh.
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