Hats off to Hollie

pmsl

Pmsl

The horse won the race, not the jockey; the jockey could not restrain the horse, and had little choice but to let it run. Nashwa (Irish Champion Stakes)?

The commercial rider in second handed her the race because of his incompetence…..imo

The horse is a monkey; the jockey was an accomplice. I'll never forget his ride on Mehdaayih (fav) for The Oaks; the winner was Dettori.

impossible123 15 Sep 23 19:38 
The horse won the race, not the jockey; the jockey could not restrain the horse, and had little choice but to let it run.

Pmsl

Great ride.

Just 689 winners in the past 5 years until today

Apologies 4 years

Why did she not get the gig at Clairhaven stable eg Gregory?

One of the best rides since Piggott.

Anyone who thinks that wasn't a top class ride by Hollie shouldn't go anywhere near a horseracing forum.

Terrible ride imho i still cant believe the horse won.

The credit goes to the trainer for having the horse fit to run for its life off a break and wind-op.

But the race fell apart, this is the main factor -

Coltrane blew out completely.

Sweet William an upgraded handicapper who had a stone to find with the winner.

Broome a 7YO who was peaked in the spring for the big money in the desert and has been on the downgrade since.

The Grand Visir, a 9YO who's been getting beat in handicaps.

As for the jockey, she failed to get the horse settled and was carted to the front a long way from home. These are inefficiencies of trip that would usually get a horse beat, but they got away with it today as there were holes in the opposition as outlined above.

Trainer has been Training for Donkeys Years George that is the least he could do.

acey, please name me the last trainer to bring a 7YO back off a 4-month break to win a domestic Group 2.

Nope, I can't think of one neither, so let's give Kingy some credit, albeit it wasn't the strongest of Group 2s once Coltrane wasn't running any sort of race.

I confidently predict Ged will have the answer to that question by 10 am tomorrow

Acey- watch the race again from the start and if you come back with terrible then.....

99 times out of a hundred horses ridden like that get stuffed.

Impossible- Worst statement I've read for a while, Hollie did a great job early doors to contain the horse without blowing it out then when middle race the pace was still a snail pace she took the race in her own hands- clever to go down the middle too then drift back when the challenge came, had enough to kick on again, time bang on standard- you can't ask more from a Jockey than that ride imho.

Disagree Acey horse was never pulling that much, pace was snail, never went bigger than 14s in running

sparrow 15 Sep 23 20:21 
Just 689 winners in the past 5 years until today

Paul Hanagan, multiple champion who rode thousands of winners.

Sacked by Hamdan.
Sacked by Fahey.

Does riding a few hundred winners exempt jockeys from criticism (or the sack)? Nope.

Maybe i am being a bit harsh on Hollie.

A match made in heaven is definitely Sweet William and Jamie Spencer- would love to see that.

Good StuFF Hollie.

Runaway with couldn’t hold the horse

Check Leoparstown last Saturday…..ffs

Hollie is a good jockey. Nevertheless, she did make a couple of riding errors in prestigious races just lately eg The Nassau and Irish Champion Stakes (100%); the latter more obvious than the former. Yesterday, Trueshan had ground and very possibly (wind op) on his side - I was a fan of Trueshan, until lately. Will I back him next time time? Emphatically no, unless he wins again and proves he's truly back. However, I'm glad he won yesterday. 

I think Coltrane was still recovering from his exertion last time. Maybe the tacky ground was an impediment too; Sweet William is a monkey; Broome a pacemaker. As such, if the two market readers were taken out there was not much depth in the race.

Horse betting is a game of opinions. I got Auguste Rodin correct (went against the many so-called bookies-paid "professionals" who did not "understand" what happened to him in the 2000G. Maybe they felt professionally suicidal to go against the grain and be contrary.

I'd be wrong with my opinion of Ms Doyle on Trueshan yesterday. If so, sobeit. Nothing in this game is always correct. But, I'll not back Trueshan next time - plain and simple - regardless of what bookies-paid voiceboxes might opine.

I put my own money where my mouth is unlike bookies-paid disingenuous "professionals"; I backed Dancing Gemini yesterday but did I gloat about it? No. It was merely an opinion - slightly more than a hunch - I was lucky.

My horseracing betting decisions/opinions are not guided by the opinions of bookies-paid often disingenuous "professionals".

B@ll@x utter talk do You

formoftheace16 Sep 23 08:36Joined: 17 Apr 12 | Topic/replies: 9,872 | Blogger: formoftheace's blog
Runaway with couldn’t hold the horse

Check Leoparstown last Saturday…..ffs


Form- Did you watch the race? A runaway horse which was never better than 4 of 5th for a mile and a quarter then Hollie made her move turning in and still had enough up her sleeve when a challenge came.

Trueshan refused to settle yesterday off the very slow pace set by Moore.

Hollie decided to give her horse his head turning for home. That move was the difference between victory and defeat, so yes it was a very good ride.

It is a great to see a jockey using some nous.

Some how impossible123 has managed to elbow in the fact that he has backed A couple of winners, even though a few pundits on YouTube fancied something else!!

Well done ,you

I think she stitched up Havlin,for me Dettori would have won on the second…..but she seems to fight a bit on Trueshan..

Leoparstown separates the wheat from the chaff plenty of riders have been found wanting round there

Remember Holland on Falbrav against High Chaperral,Kinane done him like a kipper.I was there that day and it was all the talk…

If she couldn't restrain the horse why was it in 4th place
in a 5rnr race for much of that race?
Looked to me like she decided to make that move herself.
Won her the race in the end.

Formoftheace. Because Kinane squeezed him up against the rail in the last 100m?

Yep he did but Holland was in a position earlier which would have kept him out of trouble.

I’ve never seen a horse look so well as Falbrav did that day,criminal it didn’t win imo…

But you said Kinane did him up like a kipper.

Which part of the race are you referring to?

The race riding you referred to,Lester was the daddy…..check out the class horsemen in past history

Mick just let him know…..

Form- first of all you go back to last Saturday, now you've gone back 20 years- what have either rides got to do with yesterdays ride? If memory serves me right from 20 years ago, didn't Holland decide to go up inside from turning in and and the gaps never came till last 20 yards?

The art of race riding LC…..

Remember Lester and some of the Irish guys rat-a-tat-tat I’m coming through,it’s gone now unfortunately

How did Hollie Doyle stitch up Havlin?

Form- I give up, good luck with your punts today.

Anyone remember her feck up in race last year at 2/9

Anybody remember Glendower, ridden by Gordon Richards, who was beaten at odds of 1-20 in a two-horse race just after the war.

George b has it spot on

GL today LC

Don’t ignore Gregory in the Leger…..