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06 Sep 23 17:24
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1,rip
2,skinto
3,paralysed
4,banned
5.loosing

1 number answers please.

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By:
Gaze733
When: 06 Sep 23 17:26
Everyone going skinto except a handful of us.
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 06 Sep 23 17:32
Stew y b on gave up on horses. On footy forum doing a Celtic Man city league double
11/8 for 9 month of pure excitement
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 06 Sep 23 17:32
Considering I have a spend budget imposed on me, I'll take it.

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By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 06 Sep 23 17:36
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By:
freddiewilliams
When: 06 Sep 23 17:36
Can gayzer borrow ure camera
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 06 Sep 23 17:37
His hides steaks
By:
Andrew.in.Sweden
When: 06 Sep 23 17:40
6 work

Wink
By:
Gaze733
When: 06 Sep 23 17:40
I'm not skinto freddie https://snipboard.io/BfyZW0.jpg
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 06 Sep 23 17:41
Freddie and gaze you two mocked me for withdrawing £3 last Friday but the important thing is that deposits remain ZERO

And that will be the only thing that matters to me.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 06 Sep 23 17:42
wd scotty..similar to my p&l nowadaze.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 06 Sep 23 17:47
I nearly fluked myself into a £800 win earlier, when having been matched on Dovena at 1000 for admittedly a pound the nag nearly hit evens seconds later
By:
swiftynifty
When: 06 Sep 23 17:48
Cardinal Scott • September 6, 2023 5:41 PM BST
Freddie and gaze you two mocked me for withdrawing £3 last Friday but the important thing is that deposits remain ZERO

And that will be the only thing that matters to me.


Scotty, you've got the game by the balls Your Eminence.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 06 Sep 23 17:49
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By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 06 Sep 23 17:55
I still remember thew day I turned up on this forum and was confronted with a forumite called

*Nashwan's Pungent Undergarments*
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 06 Sep 23 17:55
how much half a duzzen t towels scotty?
By:
DIFERENT GRAVY 12
When: 06 Sep 23 18:38
7.  Can't be àrsed most of the time.
By:
DIFERENT GRAVY 12
When: 06 Sep 23 18:38
7
By:
BULLET TOOTH TONY
When: 06 Sep 23 18:57
The price in winners have deterred somewhat. Appears most results are to obvious these days
By:
swiftynifty
When: 06 Sep 23 19:26
BTT, what?
By:
leif
When: 06 Sep 23 20:27
I still remember thew day I turned up on this forum and was confronted with a forumite called

*Nashwan's Pungent Undergarments*

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a legend banned by BetfairCool. A sample of his work and someone's interpretations of his musings.Grin


"
top 10 nashwan phrases and what they REALLY mean!

what i remember nashwan most fondly for.

in no particular order....


1) (usually at 3am after a evening game) "Just back from the game, the roadworks on the M6 played havoc with my Mercedes, just pouring a baileys and ice then off to bed"

Reality - "Awful night, resisting the urge to post on the betfair forum for 10 hours nearly killed me. Drove the K reg white fiesta round mcdonalds drive thru for some comfort food. Counting down the seconds till 3am. My hands are shaking, where did I put that bottle of diamond white? RESIST URGE TO POST."

2) "had a grand on over 2.5 goals in the Coventry v Preston game, taken a bit on here and the rest at my local independent"

Reality - "had 20 on over 2.5 goals, not enough money matched on betfair to back up my fictitious 1000 bet claim. Thank god for my (fictitious) local independent"

3) "Right lads, stay lucky. Just waiting on a taxi to pick me up for a night of casinos, clubbing, strippers, prostitutes, Cuban cigars etc."

reality - "ok Ive just rang the dominoes pizza, should be here in 10 mins. Got a 2 litre bottle of fanta and a packet of Time to draw the curtains and get ready for the 4 hour W A N K fest. RESIST URGE TO POST"

4) (horse forum, always AFTER the race) "How the hell did horse xxxxx trade at odds on in the 5.10?? Who the hell backed it? Never looked like winning"

reality - "** sake, blown a tenner on horse xxxxx in the 5.10 in running at 1.3"

5) "my record on this forum speaks for itself; everyone knows I tipped 10 over 2.5 goals correctly on the bounce last year

reality - "getting some stick again for aftertiming, remind the forum of past results (i.e. two 1.3 winners on the bounce back in 2005) thank god fred77/gubbed does not go that far back

6) "I just spoke to the president of Cyprus on the phone to congratulate him on winning the election"

reality - "just spoke to that bloke from Leicester who used to post as dimitrios, congratulated him on passing his driving theory test"

7) "Where is the best place to buy Rolex watches? Im thinking of buying my girl and her dad a small present"

reality - "does anyone know where I left the sodding argos catalogue? got my eye on a sporty casio number for the west ham bird, even has a stop watch"

8) "Ive drank in the Louden Tavern millions of times before rangers games

reality saw a nice boozer in brigton on the real football factories, will use that in the forum, may make my claims that i've actually been to glasgow seem a tad believable"

9) "Won about 2k since Friday but that means feck all to me. Its over with the bird , lost something which was of great personal value to me and we have just got stuffed by our bitter rivals. Can things get any worse"

reality - "lost 100 over the weekend on bet, really making me cross. It takes me a whole week of solid cleaning toilets in the hotel to earn that back"

10) "one of the 20 year old hookers that**ged ronaldo in the news of the world, I've had one of them ;-) beofore he had her too)

reality - "saw that blonde peice from toadys NOTW before in one of my brother's penthouse mags. He got mighty**ed off with me when i gave him it back damp and smelly"
By:
BULLET TOOTH TONY
When: 06 Sep 23 20:27
I’m finding swifty that the prices on here on the winners seem to be a lot less marked up to industry prices than they use to be. The added edge seems to have evaporated these days
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 06 Sep 23 20:36
gaazoo had a winning cycling bet on his pee hand hell other day..

now vanished.
By:
Gaze733
When: 06 Sep 23 23:42
yes rico because tour de france was more than 30 days ago ydc
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Sep 23 06:26
Cardinal Scott

That’s the first I’ve seen of this ‘spend limit’, what is it showing?
That you’ve withdrawn £43 this month, and are allocated £100 a month?
And what is it a deposit limit or a net loss limit?
If you already had a £1000 in the account for eg what would happen if you lost £150 next race?
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 07 Sep 23 07:02
Dusty, just Google " Betfair spend budget " plenty of info there.
I Didn't realise all 18 - 25 Yr old are put on these budgets, it's Big Brother gone Mad.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Sep 23 07:48
Hmm thanks Glasgow but it’s still about as clear as mud.

Your Budget is based on your net deposits for the month, which means that depositing will reduce the amount available and withdrawing will increase it. If you’ve set up a deposit limit as well, your Budget won’t ever go above the amount you set. Your Budget gets reset at the end of that month.

You can only ‘spend’ what’s in your account, you can’t spend what’s not in it…so how can depositing reduce the amount available?
Surely depositing limits the amount of further deposits, but increases available funds to spend?
I’m still unsure what happened in Cardinal’s case if he already had 1000 in the account then lost 150 next race.
Is a budget a net loss limit?

Depressing stuff. It says it resets at the beginning of each month like it’s doing you a favour. If you happened to win a grand and be up running total over the month and it resets to 100 quid first of next month.

If you don’t want to say Cardinal then fair enough but you did post your situation- what was the general state of your account before this was imposed, shot to sh1t I’m guessing?
By:
ladycarla
When: 07 Sep 23 07:56
Agree Glasgow- apparently young people can't think for themselves nowadays, when and who decided that is anybody's guess.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Sep 23 08:01
What information would I need to provide?
Budgets are based on the financial data we have available to us. But we know that there are ways you can fund your account which may not appear on our checks – such as: savings, sale of a property, inheritance, insurance pay out, trusts/investment funds. So if you’re funding your account through one of these methods, you’ll need to provide some additional documents.


So bf do (presently?) account for wealth and not just income?
By:
GLASGOWCALLING
When: 07 Sep 23 08:09
Doesn't make sense, it also says the budget is set at £500 a month ? .... maybe Cardinal asked for it to be reduced. ??
By:
top2rated
When: 07 Sep 23 09:00
So, Cardinal Scott, whose 'Date Joined:' is 18 Jul 08, falls in the category of an 18-24 year old?

I smell a 🐀
By:
BoosterRooster
When: 07 Sep 23 09:02
Spend budget is what gets put on your account after the “intervention”.

If you already have money in your account, then that’s fine, it’s not included. £100 seems to be the spend budget for people who can’t, or won’t provide documents to show an income. You can get it increased, though you will struggle to get it much above £500, even if you show large amounts of money in savings.

If starting from zero, and you have a £500 monthly “spend budget”. You can deposit £500 today. If you lose that £500, you have to wait until 1st of October until you can deposit another £500.

If you win £1k, and withdraw it. So say you deposit £500, you win £1k, and you decide to withdraw it, leaving your balance back at £500. It gets added back to your monthly spend budget. So your spend budget is now the £1k you withdrew, for the rest of the month. So if you lose your remaining £500, you can still redeposit the £1k that you withdraw in winnings, but only for that month. It still resets at start of next month.

So if you deposit £500. Win £4k on the month. And on the last day of the month, you withdraw all your balance. You can still only deposit £500 on the first day of the next month.


That probably makes it sound a lot more complicated than it actually is. Basically, it resets every month. You can withdraw and redeposit winnings, but only in the same month!
By:
top2rated
When: 07 Sep 23 09:11
Thanks for the info, BoosterRooster.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Sep 23 09:12
Ok ta

So in cardinal’s case he only has a net loss limit for the month of a total of £143, if he loses that he has to wait until next month when he can deposit another £100?

Straightened times, there must have been something significant for such drastic limitation.
You could in theory still build a bank and not withdraw and at some point be in a position where the ‘budgeting’ has no affect on you, but that would mean absolute discipline and no little amount of skill.

That is if I read it correctly; that even though the month change limits deposit again to 100, your net limit would be the grand total of your net wins.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Sep 23 09:14
* I say drastic because I know for a fact the £1k loss over 24hrs isn’t a criteria (yet?) on here if you are in profit.
By:
dustybin
When: 07 Sep 23 09:17
People have scoffed at me saying this as though it’s me being a tw4t, but while everyone has the chance they need to build a bank and hold money aside in the account on future bets which you can’t accidentally lose IR laying something by mistake for eg.
That way you have a buffer to take a breath and concentrate without them coming for you.

I’ve a;so said that facility is the least bf should be offering now for customers akin to the old Aus wallet where you could hold money in separate to your betting bank.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Sep 23 09:21

Sep 7, 2023 -- 9:00AM, top2rated wrote:


So, Cardinal Scott, whose 'Date Joined:' is 18 Jul 08, falls in the category of an 18-24 year old?I smell a

By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 07 Sep 23 09:22
Double Spaced Cry

No I am not 18-24 I'm 40+

BoosterRooster has explained it accurately
By:
ladycarla
When: 07 Sep 23 09:27
Just press show more under my spend budget for info.
By:
BoosterRooster
When: 07 Sep 23 09:30
Yes, that right. I’m not sure what cardinal scotts remaining balance is.

But he started the month off with £100 deposit limit, which he seemingly hasn’t used. Has withdrawn £43, so that gets added on to his spend budget which now shows at £143. So if he lost his remaining balance, he then only has £143 left that he can deposit this month. Then on the 1st of October, he is allowed to deposit another £100 and it starts again.

The net limit only applies to that month. If you win, and don’t withdraw then you still have that balance to play with. But the winnings dont carry over, they are only in play for that month if you decide to withdraw them. If he wins £5k this month, withdraws all his balance on September 30th, then he will still only be allowed to deposit £100 on October 1st. If he then loses that, he has to wait until November 1st to deposit another £100, despite winning £5k in September.  If he doesn’t withdraw, he can still lose the £5k next month before his £100 spend budget applies.

As you say, it is possible to build up a bank, and if you are winning, and winning regularly then it shouldn’t ever really be a problem. So long as you keep a high balance, and don’t withdraw until you can do so without really effecting your bank.

Though in the grander scheme of things, with liquidity visible dropping on here by the day, it’s a massive issue. Especially as you say the limits are for £1000 in a day. So setting the limit for most people at £100 per month, and even at £500 per month seems drastically low, and it is going to do little to help liquidity. Will basically just end up as winner vs winner.
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