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By:
hulk23
When: 04 Sep 23 18:39
marquands had a shocker on that Rhubarb.

tracked that, capable of much better.
By:
sparrow
When: 04 Sep 23 18:40
Time Patrol but stable money was supposed to be on the other horse in the yard.
By:
Gaze733
When: 04 Sep 23 18:40
You know what's sad? My grail said I should back it at BSP 11-50, if the megamug market hadn't laid it I woulda backed it at 50.
By:
Hayden
When: 04 Sep 23 18:42
My usual reply sparrow

Bottom weight and handicap debut
By:
Gaze733
When: 04 Sep 23 18:42
at BSP 100-500 the grail had just 1 winner in 416 runners, now two.
By:
wroughtironronn
When: 04 Sep 23 18:43
Missed the race as I was cooking our tea - bit of a shock

18:30 Windsor
Time Patrol - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:319699334519 | Placed: 04-Sep-23 17:57:33    Back    180.00    1.00    --    --
179.00
Won
By:
hulk23
When: 04 Sep 23 18:44
1 winner in 416 runners

is that technically a grail ??
By:
Gaze733
When: 04 Sep 23 19:57
6495 runs, 524 wins, 8% SR, 80% ROI at BSP 11-50. But at BSP 100-500 it was only profitable in the place market so I ignored it but I guess a winner was due.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 23 20:07
6495 runs, 524 wins

thats 1 winner ever 13 races?
By:
sageform
When: 04 Sep 23 20:11
How much of the high price was due to a woman riding? There sere 22 flat races today and 6 were won by women riders but most of them start at longer odds that their form justifies.
By:
Gaze733
When: 04 Sep 23 21:20
Yes rico, I see math is your strong suit.
By:
TOP3MAN
When: 04 Sep 23 21:25
come on.........its payday for the Tony Carroll handicap debutant system after running under a loose rain with no homework over the incorrect trip and laid for the fees.

the analysis of previous runs....outpaced. so drop it back in trip Cry
By:
TOP3MAN
When: 04 Sep 23 21:26
Rico-Dangleflaps • September 4, 2023 8:07 PM BST
6495 runs, 524 wins

thats 1 winner ever 13 races?

thats correct and the **** didnt back one at 430-1 - he has all the data and no idea
By:
TOP3MAN
When: 04 Sep 23 21:28

Sep 4, 2023 -- 6:39PM, hulk23 wrote:


marquands had a shocker on that Rhubarb.tracked that, capable of much better.


rhubarb is a mincemeat of a horse.....a bookie horse

By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 04 Sep 23 21:29
wel sed topman.
By:
TOP3MAN
When: 04 Sep 23 21:46
Also lets not forget dear Tony had 15 runners across the country today, in which he put dear old Jason Watson up on the two shortest priced runners and he has expertly as he does for David O'Meara managed to get his runners well out the frame!!!!

What a fantastic cash cow dear Jason is
By:
Gaze733
When: 05 Sep 23 10:39
What part of 1 winner in 416 runners did you miss? Do you back every rag with a 0.24% chance to win? Go ahead and back every handicap debutant that drifts above 200, you might get a winner in a year or two.
By:
Rico-Dangleflaps
When: 05 Sep 23 14:41
Gaze733 04 Sep 23 19:57 
6495 runs, 524 wins
By:
sageform
When: 05 Sep 23 14:52
Massive difference between a 100/1 shot with plenty of form and one with hardly any.
By:
Gaze733
When: 05 Sep 23 15:11
HC debutants never need any form
By:
Hayden
When: 05 Sep 23 15:12
When a horse has had 3 runs in a non handicap punters should class it as a debutant as the " form " is irrelevant.

When a horse is a handicap debutant you should think of it having its first run in a new career.

As we all know handicaps are formed so that theoretically the field dead heats , so laying handicap outsiders is fraught with danger.

If you don't believe me ask connections.


Why do you think Rico never uses handicaps when laying his longshots   Happy
By:
Gaze733
When: 05 Sep 23 16:07
"As we all know handicaps are formed so that theoretically the field dead heats"

Then why does every other race have a 2/1 fav? If the handicappers did their job correctly, a 10 runner field would have each horse at 9/1 no?
By:
Gaze733
When: 05 Sep 23 16:08
I'd rather back Frankel carrying a bag of bricks than a 45 rated horse.
By:
sageform
When: 05 Sep 23 16:41
Gaze you are right in theory but a handicapper has to weigh recent form and old form. If a horse that starts the season on 100 and finishes nearly last 3 times in handicaps beaten (say) 15 lengths over a mile, how would you rate it? If taken literally it should be 70 but is more likely to be 90. So it will start at 33/1.
By:
11kv
When: 05 Sep 23 18:25
Well done ironronn
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