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29 Aug 23 17:45
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... me to do some Research - and read an interesting story.

Gillian, Lady Howard de Walden - Horse - Graham - Won the 4:15 Newbury - , made so famous by so many of her late husband's horse - often trained by Henry Cecil - notably  - Derby Winner Slip Anchor - and top-miler Kris

Lady Gillian is now 86 - and moved out of the family home some ten years ago - leaving Lord Howard's stepson to live there.

There is a Stud there, at Avington - (Not, of course, the famous, ex- Lord Derby, Plantation Stud - from which Lord Howard bred most of his horse)

The most telling line in the following article is a quote from Lady Gillian ...

‘I am moving all my mares, foals and yearlings to another stud – Trinity – which is near my new house. Avington Stud, meanwhile, goes into the hands of the family. I don’t know its future.’


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2474603/RICHARD-KAY-Widow-racing-billionaire-moves-bungalow-hands-family-home-grandson.html

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By:
onlooker
When: 29 Aug 23 17:48
* a line not produced in posting ..

'Graham - Won the 4:15 Newbury -carrying the APRICOT SILKS, 'made so famous by so many of her late husband's horses'
By:
jimnast
When: 29 Aug 23 17:54
Kris was my favourite in those colours only even beaten by 2000 guineas winners.
By:
differentdrum
When: 29 Aug 23 18:13
Hannon and Balding, the two southern equivalents of Mark Johnston. This horse was well backed at Salisbury (a course he had won at before) on his previous start, and was absolutely woeful.
By:
blackbarn
When: 29 Aug 23 18:18
Good stuff Onlooker. Not sure it is me but I am sure in the days of Kris and before, the colours were proper Apricot. Not the washed out colour we've seen more recently. Might be my memory.  I am going to watch a Kris video to check.
By:
blackbarn
When: 29 Aug 23 18:19
Didnt take long - https://www.focusonracing.com/image/I0000zwgKbNb0rAM
By:
jimnast
When: 29 Aug 23 18:37
Raced from 1978 to 1980 blackbarn last run was at ascot against known fact in the qe 2
By:
jimnast
When: 29 Aug 23 18:38
Sorry hadn’t seen above post
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Aug 23 18:40
I remember Slip Anchor from my student days. What a horse he was? He showed Piggott (Law Society) and Shadeed a clean pair of heels.
By:
jimnast
When: 29 Aug 23 18:44
Quite amazing kris started outsider of two for the st James palace which was the last race on the card at the 1979 royal meeting,he even once graced Folkestone now sadly allowed to close Sad
By:
jimnast
When: 29 Aug 23 18:47
Impossible I remember the great match up at Newmarket between slip anchor and Commanche run pebbles destroyed them both
By:
penzance
When: 29 Aug 23 18:49
On those colours (Grand Lodge) when he just got done in the Guineas
by Mister Baileys.
By:
onlooker
When: 29 Aug 23 18:51
blackbarn -

As I am sure you remember - Lady Howard de Walden - had her own Colours =

(the same) APRICOT - but with Black Sash and Black Cap

She did not have too many runners, though - and I have a feeling that she supported Julie Cecil - when Henry Cecil's ex-wife started Training in her own right.

Lady Gillian (today's Winning Owner) - has obviously inherited her late husband's (original) APRICOT Colours.
By:
jimnast
When: 29 Aug 23 18:51
Grand lodge was Lord Howard’s other st James palace winner
By:
tomo1984
When: 29 Aug 23 18:58
The stepson!!
By:
blackbarn
When: 29 Aug 23 19:00
Onlooker - I do know her colours.  Re my earlier point, in the B and H book they look almost orange!!!.
By:
penzance
When: 29 Aug 23 19:05
Was @ R.Ascot when those Apricot & Black colours won the Hardwicke.
Sandmason was the horse.The other Apricot colours were worn by the
jolly,Wellbeing.
By:
impossible123
When: 29 Aug 23 19:17
'jimnast', that was some race. To be fair Slip Anchor was never the same horse in the Champion Stakes post an injury.
By:
ronnie rails
When: 29 Aug 23 19:24
Shavian winning the st James Palace at the greatest  meeting trained by the greatest  trainer and ridden by the kid don't think I ever shouted one home as much great days  sad to say gone forever.
By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 29 Aug 23 19:29
This horse was well backed at Salisbury (a course he had won at before) on his previous start, and was absolutely woeful.

??

He was beaten just 3.5 lengths, 4th of 11, at Salisbury. The Prescott winner is now rated 10 lb higher, while the third has won since of the same mark. Graham was only a head behind that third horse, and was running off the same mark today.

I don't see what Graham did wrong there. He was backed for a good reason today.
By:
jimnast
When: 30 Aug 23 08:35
Good morning Ronnie

I had forgotten shavian maybe the kid and the trainer have gone but it’s still the greatest meeting.
By:
top2rated
When: 30 Aug 23 09:26
The stepson and heir apparent...

Count Peter John Joseph Czernin von und zu Chudenitz,[1] otherwise known as The Honourable Peter Czernin, (born 1 January 1966) is a British-born film producer.

Early life and ancestry

Count Peter is the only son of Count Joseph Czernin von und zu Chudenitz[2] (9 August 1924 Prague, Czechoslovakia – 13 April 2015 Kensington, London)[3] and Mary Hazel Caridwen Scott-Ellis, 10th Baroness Howard de Walden (born 12 August 1935).

He is the heir apparent to the English peerage title of Baron Howard de Walden, which was created in 1597 by Queen Elizabeth I for Admiral Lord Thomas Howard, a younger son of Thomas Howard, 4th Duke of Norfolk.[4]

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By:
screaming from beneaththewaves
When: 30 Aug 23 10:11
de Walden ... what a man needs when a von and a zu just aren't enough.
By:
onlooker
When: 30 Aug 23 13:44
top2rated -

Peter CZERNIN .... 'He is the heir apparent to the English peerage title of Baron Howard de Walden,'

- and looks like Stepson CZERNIN - has NO interest in Horse Racing, whatsoever ...

Given that there is No Czernin listed as an Owner on Racing Post - and Avington Manor  is now a luxury Wedding and other Corporate events facility.
By:
Cardinal Scott
When: 31 Aug 23 17:55
His Carmelite House did not train on but his Paean won in ground that these days would have forced an abondonment at Royal Ascot

As a young Cambridge student fresh out of Eton, he was driving a new car in Munich when a man walked out in front of him and was knocked down. "He was only shaken up," recalled de Walden. "But had I killed him, it would have changed the history of the world." The man was Adolf Hitler.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/1999/jul/12/guardianobituaries.davidhadert
By:
jimnast
When: 31 Aug 23 18:02
Never knew that Cardinal incredible
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