WFA - BIG EVS

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Race Conditions as per the Racing Post.

RACE CONDITIONS  £533,750 guaranteed For  2yo+ NOTE: Horses will only be eligible to run in this race provided that they have a current BHA Handicap Rating of 80 or higher at midday of the confirmation stage. Horses which do not qualify for a rating may also be eligible providing the BHA Handicapper is satisfied that the horse's racecourse performances up to and including the day before confirmation merit a provisional assessment of 80 or higher. Horses which have not run will not be eligible Weights  2yo colts & geldings 8st 3lb; fillies 8st; 3yo colts & geldings 9st 11lb; fillies 9st 8lb; 4yo+ colts & geldings 9st 13lb; fillies 9st 10lb NOTE: In the event that a two-year-old filly is declared for this race, all weights will be raised by 2lb at the 48-Hour Declaration Stage Weight for age  2yo from 3yo 24lb 3yo from 4yo+ 2lb pay £2,175 Penalty value  1st  £302,689.62 2nd  £114,756.24 3rd  £57,431.50 4th  £28,609.00 5th  £14,357.88 6th  £7,205.63

Yes, I copied and pasted the relevant part in my post

brian waltzer intent on making an early splash on the forum

Hahaha …my smiley face didn’t appear

I can be a bit tightly wound, apologies . I’m working on it

Fascinating entry and one that spices up a sport in need of variety.
Tough gig but can be done.

Last 2 yr old winner -Lyric Fantasy 1990 -Richard Hannon snr - Owner Lord Carnarvon -'Mouse' Roberts -7st 8lb -Ow 1 lb

won by a length - Lester Piggott on the runner-up Mr Brook 9st 6lb

Hope it wins

id like to work on you as i also can be tightly wound. very tight. almost lethally so

how tight do you go brian? you are welcome addition. the forum is so buttoned-up nowadays

look forward to us getting it on

Who’s Brian?

Oh no it’s Cumbrian Waltzer — was a horse in the 80s. Decent handicapper but no superstar but nevertheless one of my favourite horses

The Platinum Queen is much more analogous. Having obviously been beat by the jolly. She faltered at the end of the race, after showing a lot of speed, leading easily. Still a bit immature. Could definitely see BE doing the same with his flyweight, and he seems a much more robust sort at the same stage of his racing career. Feel a back to lay opportunity at the very least, and I can see him winning it. I'm a massive fan of Bradsell as well, who is interesting back at York, and the jolly is a legend. A great race in prospect. One could easily see FD getting involved if they overdo it at the front end, but much less likely at York on fast going.

Leif - Kingsgate Native was the last 2yo winner. The "pocket rocket" was the last 2yo filly

ah! thanks Blackbarn.
How many have won in total , if you happen to know?

5 only since 1922

Five it seems, certainly isn't many. I hope he wins. I like fast 2yo's.  I started with Sky Gipsy!!!

Not many at all.
I notice Kinsgate Native was runner up in both the Windsor Castle and the Molecombe, both of which Big Evs has won. Doesn't have a direct bearing on the chances tomorrow but a parallel nonetheless.

is there a 2yr old who,s  ran in nunthorpe who hasnt run in either windsor castle or mol,or both

1st time poster....probably several.  The Platinum Queen would qualify from not long ago!!!!

The filly Lyric Fantasy ran in the Queen Mary and then at Newbury [sales race]
could be umpteen others who ran in it but never won it.

Leif - is that a question?

not really - too much digging required.

Horses can make mugs of you, that's what could have been expected in the Nunthorpe. And I wouldn't buy that it was because he was a 2yo.