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SlippyBlue
14 Aug 23 19:41
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For those of us who are of a certain vintage, then this absolute gem  of a film, Ken Loach's first feature, is sure to bring back memories of a bygone age. David Bradley, Colin Welland & Brian Glover amongst the cast.
Pause Switch to Standard View "Kes." Tonight on Film4 @ 23.20.
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Report madhatter August 14, 2023 7:43 PM BST
the football match sequence.....classic!
Report Early Morning Riser August 14, 2023 7:45 PM BST
A very good film worth watching.
Report saddo August 14, 2023 7:47 PM BST
German Bight
Report SlippyBlue August 14, 2023 7:50 PM BST
The football match was superb, Brian Glover as Mr.Sugden.
Marvellous stuff.
Report halcyon days August 14, 2023 7:52 PM BST
Great film....
Report elisjohn August 14, 2023 8:26 PM BST
madhutter,   agree its priceless, i just laugh thinking about itLaugh.
Report Ramruma August 14, 2023 11:08 PM BST
Is Kes a great film? It is a film with a couple of classic scenes but imo it was a mistake not to cast proper actors.
Report penzance August 14, 2023 11:12 PM BST
Ivy Tilsley, think she played the mum in it.
Report ----you-have-to-laugh--- August 14, 2023 11:59 PM BST
I think Ken Loach had Poor Cow released before
Kes. Another working class drama.

Poor Cow introduced John Bindon to acting, he would
go on to meet princess Margaret, and spawn quite
a few films about bank robberies and photos, allegedly.
Report Sir Epicure Mammon August 15, 2023 12:03 AM BST
The kestrel was owned and trained by Robert Nairac. Later murdered by the ****s.
Report Trendy August 15, 2023 8:27 AM BST
One of my favourites.
Report sparrow August 15, 2023 9:09 AM BST
Excellent film and so well received at the time.  Has certainly stood the test of time.
Report DIE LINKE August 15, 2023 9:50 AM BST
Dennis Law's in the wash
Report SlippyBlue August 15, 2023 10:51 AM BST
I agree Sparrow, I enjoyed watching it again last night and I can remember as a youngster, around 1974, that the film made quite an impression on me way back then.
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Report sparrow August 15, 2023 11:08 AM BST
1969 slippy..
Report FOYLESWAR August 15, 2023 12:01 PM BST
when that headmaster was ranting off just before he was going to cane those smoker lads and they  are trying not to laugh !brings back memories ,had the cane a few times at school ! that poor younger kid who went to give the headmaster a message got caught with the tabs/f ags!LaughLaugh
Report Cutter27 August 15, 2023 3:02 PM BST
I knew Brian Glover, and he really disliked Ken Loach for having a live kestrel knecked (killed) to create realism in the film when Billy took the dead kestrel out of the bin.
Report Tattcorner August 15, 2023 3:25 PM BST
Enjoyed the sequel as well...The Eagle has Landed...Happy
Report s.kenbo August 15, 2023 3:35 PM BST
I remember watching it at primary school. I think we’d read the book first then saw the film. Not sure what I thought of it back then but have watched it as an adult and wasn’t very impressed!
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 3:38 PM BST
the youngen at the time took a great part..fine actor.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 3:40 PM BST
https://pauseliveaction.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/dai-bradley-holby1.jpg

billy casper 54yr later ^
Report breadnbutter August 15, 2023 3:54 PM BST
As a nieve youngster I thought it was going to be a film about Falconry, was so disappointed, lol, but after watching it again many years later, it's a fine documentary of the times.
Report xmoneyx August 15, 2023 4:12 PM BST
named my budgie kes
Report saddo August 15, 2023 4:14 PM BST
I've been near Barnsley this morning, went along Jebb Lane, another blast from the past. Beautiful.
Report breadnbutter August 15, 2023 4:23 PM BST
To elicit a realistic emotional response for the film’s bleak climax, in which Billy’s self-loathing brother Jud (Freddie Fletcher) kills Kes, Loach approached Fletcher and Bradley in the lunch queue and told Fletcher to go off with Richard Hines and slaughter Hardy for the required corpse. Bradley says he wasn’t convinced – “I just couldn’t believe these nice people could be so cruel” – and after shooting the scene was reunited with Hardy (the one on camera had died from natural causes). “I said to them: ‘I knew you wouldn’t kill him! I knew you wouldn’t!’”


That's to cutter,tbf it's from the gurnyad.
Report Cutter27 August 15, 2023 4:29 PM BST
Breadbutterskull: Brian Glover told me Ken Loach had the kestrel killed fresh before they put it into the bin for Billy to pull out of.
Now, was you there? No. Brian was, and Ken Loach had the kestrel killed. Fact! Brian said so.
Report sparrow August 15, 2023 4:30 PM BST
https://whatculture.com/film/10-iconic-movie-scenes-made-possible-by-enforced-method-acting?page=2



Ken Loach Told David Bradley That Kes Had Been Killed For Real In The Final Scene - Kes (1969)
kes Ken Loach has made some of the most beloved British movies of all time, one of which is Kes, a drama which centres around a young boy (as played by David Bradley) who befriends a kestrel. It's a sad and happy movie all at once, and one renowned for its gritty realism, realistic performances and great cinematography. If you've seen the movie (and stop reading now if you haven't), you'll know that it ends with the unfortunate death of the movie's eponymous kestrel, because that's how filmmakers like to punish us for paying to watch their movies. It's the kind of ending that might make even the toughest of Northern factory workers cry. When filming the movie's final scenes, though, David Bradley, who was fourteen at the time, was approached by Ken Loach, who told him that they'd have to really kill one of the three "Kes" kestrels that Bradley had bonded with over the course of the production. Bradley, just as anybody in his position would be, was devastated, and channelled all his upset and anguish into the subsequent scene - the one where he finds out that Kes has been killed. Which meant he had played right into Loach's hands, of course, because they didn't kill any of the birds, but had instead used a kestrel that had died of natural causes. Normally we wouldn't advise that anybody tell such a horrific, manipulative lie to a child, but in the case of Kes, it worked - emotional scars aside, the pay-off was well worth it.
Report Cutter27 August 15, 2023 4:32 PM BST
Sparrow, Brian said they had the kestrel killed. I hope your account is true, and Brian, bless his Yorkshire soul, is wrong.
Report sparrow August 15, 2023 4:34 PM BST
https://bigdog.media/2011/11/kes-2/#:~:text=He%20discovered%20that%20no%20birds,lack%20of%20it%2C%20ever%20made.



Yet another report.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 4:38 PM BST
Cutter27 15 Aug 23 16:29 
Breadbutterskull: Brian Glover told me Ken Loach had the kestrel killed fresh before they put it into the bin for Billy to pull out of.

pmsl..cutter WAC Laugh
Report Cutter27 August 15, 2023 4:39 PM BST
Why did Brian tell me he murdered the kestrel? I do not understand that? He had no reason to lie, and Brian was deeply headbeat when he told me the account?
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 4:40 PM BST
i know billy casper,he was friends with my mate..the bird died of natural causes.
Report dustybin August 15, 2023 4:47 PM BST
One of my mate’s uncle was one of the kids Glover takes the p1ss out of on the football pitch

The manuscript is in the Sheffield Art’s tower along with other personal items of Barry Hines
Report breadnbutter August 15, 2023 4:54 PM BST
Kestrels  used to be such a common sight, quite rare now Sad

Had kestrels  that nested in a huge Oak local to me,had been kestrels nesting in it since I was a kid, so couldn't have been same pair, they cut the fckn tree down for no reason, there one day gone the next, was no disease , they had been building closer and closer to it, was a magnificent tree  old but beautiful.
Report Cutter27 August 15, 2023 4:55 PM BST
Breadbutterhead, my apologies, but you need to return to a Barnsley school to get your spelling and grammar corrected.
Report breadnbutter August 15, 2023 5:30 PM BST
OK cutter, will do, can they cure dyslexia in Yorkshire,they tried to cure it in Scotland, still got the scars.


Sir epicure, never knew  Robert Niarac was a Falconer, some boy, RIP, was into his fishing as well I see, proper soldier,RIP.
Report Cutter27 August 15, 2023 5:33 PM BST
Council estate flesh? Confusing. I need some real talent.
Report breadnbutter August 15, 2023 5:48 PM BST
And in English?
Report CROPSICK August 15, 2023 6:15 PM BST
Absolute brilliant film, absolutley mirrored the school i attended in the early 70's also the mining village i lived in and still do.Christ,we had fck all expected fck all and wer happier for it.
Report Smoky Hill August 15, 2023 6:39 PM BST
Classic Film

So was Ptang Yang Kipperbang  uh  lol
Report SlippyBlue August 15, 2023 6:59 PM BST
Very good CROPSICK, I totally get that.
Report Ramruma August 15, 2023 7:28 PM BST
Cropsick -- "we had fck all expected fck all and wer happier for it."

What's that to do with Kes though? The boy has fck all and expects fck all but is *not* happy. The story is the kid trying to escape his destiny, or fate might be a better word, but this is British not American so he can't. Can you tell I've forgotten the kid's name?

One of the recent child battering cases in the last year or two had a six-year-old lamenting "no-one loves me" shortly before his parents killed him. Sorry to bring the mood down but that is the other half of Kes: he's not getting any support at home either. The only person who might be on his side for one brief moment is the English teacher.

And that's the point. His family fails him; his school fails him; he is doomed to go down the pit. And so are all his mates and all the other kids up and down the country. It's one long conveyor belt from birth to grave via back-breaking drudgery with no hope of escape.
Report sparrow August 15, 2023 8:35 PM BST
Smoky Hill 15 Aug 23 18:39 
Classic Film

So was Ptang Yang Kipperbang  uh  lol





Now you're talking. Brilliant stuff...........................https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beRBBch-g_c
Report leif August 18, 2023 10:58 PM BST
It's No Joke Living In Barnsley - Brian Glover : Plus Bonus Footage

It's No Joke Living In Barnsley - Brian Glover : Plus Bonus Footage

Have you ever seen a man put a polecat doon his trousers?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1ovgGu9ViM


they dont make em like this today.
Report saddo August 18, 2023 11:17 PM BST
That's a good vid, I was at Cannon Hall on Wednesday.
Report LoyalHoncho August 18, 2023 11:59 PM BST
Amazing film.  A brilliant chronicle of the times.
Report The Dragon August 19, 2023 7:42 AM BST
yes great film but so sadSad
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