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casemoney
13 Aug 23 20:17
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Photos and Names available  ,Have the BBC put the Item up on their Website , Have they foook

How is this not a Headliner on there , Totally beyond belief that there is not full coverage of What has Happened

Was a Quick report on the Incident 2 days ago , As soon as further Info has become available they have given it

A Massive Swerve , Aunty is Rancid to the Core
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Report sparrow August 13, 2023 8:20 PM BST
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-66469043
Report Regbutler August 13, 2023 8:40 PM BST
Case, in one of the first BBC news reports about this case, they said that the family who had lived there and subsequently fled abroad, were from Pakistan.

Not been mentioned on following reports, which I found strange
Report FOYLESWAR August 13, 2023 10:16 PM BST
on first reading this it read like  a ten year old girl had murdered 3 men ..........very sad !
Report casemoney August 14, 2023 3:06 PM BST
Sparrow there are Pictures and Names now available the BBC have totally wiped the news Item  , If they have fled abroad Put the Pictures up on the site

its called the World Wide Web , if this was 3 white blokes would be full updates daily ,if not more frequently

Shocking case of Non Reporting  , but Standard  ,anyone paying this Rancid mob the yearly Tax needs their Head Examined IMVHO
Report casemoney August 14, 2023 3:07 PM BST
Lord only knows what has happened to this Little Girl  Sad
Report sparrow August 14, 2023 3:13 PM BST
So all news agencies are giving out the news surrounding this murder except the BBC who have "wiped it" as you say.
Report knot in wood August 14, 2023 3:23 PM BST
A couple of months in Pakistan and they soon be rushing back, just say the dog did it and probably get a suspended sentence then..
Report formoftheace August 14, 2023 4:20 PM BST
One of the same origin kidnapped a young boy in Glasgow a few years back,captured in Pakistan and pictured looking out of a stinking prison window begging to be sentenced in the Uk

Shipped back and found guilty,now living it up in Kilmarnock prison (hotel) ruling the roost

Young boy was found beaten and burned…..vomit inducing b@stard…
Report Mat22 August 14, 2023 4:22 PM BST
They often pack the Victim in a Suitcase.
Report 1st time poster August 14, 2023 4:24 PM BST
doesnt seem to bother newcastle,henderson,neymar,etc,etc
Report formoftheace August 14, 2023 4:25 PM BST
I rise above racism but I can see why people are so upset and face the law regarding
Report casemoney August 14, 2023 4:41 PM BST
Detectives investigating the death of a 10-year-old girl at a house in Surrey have said no-one else was in the property when she was discovered.

The girl was found at the address in Hammond Road, Woking, at about 02:50 BST on 10 August.

Detectives are trying to trace three people who they say were known to the girl and who have left the country. No arrests have been made.

A post-mortem examination is due to be held on Tuesday afternoon.

No names and No Photos WHY ? It is common knowledge who the Police are looking for
Report casemoney August 14, 2023 4:46 PM BST
That has Just been Posted on the BBC  ,The BBC have a news site for Pakistan ,would it not be an Idea to get the Full info up on that ? Instead of the 3 of them disappearing into the Tribal Areas , until they return with a New ID on a Bote in a few Years ,This is nothing to Do with Racism , it is Blatant Non Reporting

The Little Girl who was shot by the Drug Dealer in Liverpool was Headlines for Days on The BBC
Report wroughtironronn August 14, 2023 4:54 PM BST
The BBC is a maggot hill of woke'ism and propaganda, feeding it's tainted views ranging from Climate Change (panic), Immigration (great for the UK),Brexit (bad) Lineker (Saint) and Oil/Gas (bad).
Report 1st time poster August 14, 2023 4:57 PM BST
did they report, did you demand they report put a photo of the ROZZA tory mp on their news feed ?
Report 1st time poster August 14, 2023 4:59 PM BST
theyve basically ignored the DAN WOTTON story wheres your post demanding they give that full coverage ?
Report spyker August 14, 2023 6:20 PM BST
So in a country that is around 85% white you are  having a go at the national broadcaster for concentrating on crimes with white people? Can I suggest you google '10yo girl murdered uk' and see how many you've heard of both name and even the story?
Report impossible123 August 14, 2023 6:27 PM BST
How come more is not reported about this poor child eg who was she?; who were her parents?; who were the people who left the country?; how were they related to the dead child?; where did these people go to after leaving the UK?

I think it's a sad day if a news embargo has been put on this case.
Report penzance August 14, 2023 6:46 PM BST
Picture of the little girl in the current bun.
Can't do links.
Very sad.
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 9:22 AM BST
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
Report impossible123 August 15, 2023 11:14 AM BST
The poor girl is Sara Sharif. And, the scumbags involved or associated with her murder have absconded to Pakistan, it seems , their country of origin. No doubt holed-up in a distant village in a concrete contraption like bin Laden.

What a bunch of cowards!
Report casemoney August 15, 2023 1:37 PM BST
So in a country that is around 85% white you are  having a go at the national broadcaster for concentrating on crimes with white people?

Like when thousands of young Girls were being raped Spyker , It took them a bit of time to Concentrate on that  , BEEB are rancid to the Core
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 1:46 PM BST
we live in a dysfunctional world..simple as..lets hope its nuked asap.
Report casemoney August 15, 2023 2:12 PM BST
Polish Mother  , Father was given full Custody , Looks like another Fine move by the courts
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 2:22 PM BST
had to be a reason that mother wasnt given it casey..
Report Rico-Dangleflaps August 15, 2023 2:22 PM BST
polish mother and an ounce of baccy is a deadly combo.
Report impossible123 August 15, 2023 2:39 PM BST
Why do the Police not name the 3 adults in question or where they might have fled to? I understand this has turned into an International manhunt so why withhold the identities?
Report Ramruma August 16, 2023 3:10 AM BST
I do not know why the police are withholding the identities but it is possible they do not want to prejudice extradition hearings. They will not want these people to argue in court that they should not be extradited back to Britain because they will not get a fair trial owing to three weeks of Daily Mail headlines telling any potential jurors these men are guilty.
Report Cider August 16, 2023 8:15 AM BST
A 10 year old child being found murdered in a posh Surrey area would ordinarily be leading the news in the broadcast media for days. Utter tumbleweed for this, can't think why.
Report dustybin August 16, 2023 8:31 AM BST
The mother said the daughter wanted to be a model and move to LA when older.

That must have gone down like cold lumpy sick with the pakistani father Laugh
Report Cider August 16, 2023 8:37 AM BST
The article I read in the Surrey Comment read that the body was discovered by police in Hammond Road at around 2.50am on August 10.

Why would the police be breaking into a random house, in a sleepy town, in the middle of the night? There is plenty that must be getting suppressed about this.
Report saddo August 16, 2023 9:36 AM BST
A judge recently set one of these chaps free after he beat and injured his daughter with an iron rod outside her school. Not the first time he'd injured her but he was allowed home. Crazy
Report jimnast August 16, 2023 9:43 AM BST
How on earth can a father ever do any harm to a daughter?
Report saddo August 16, 2023 9:49 AM BST
I read that she'd gone to school wearing makeup. I think the mother suggested she wear it to hide the bruises he'd recently inflicted. It must be more acceptable to injure your kids if religious culture is involved.
Report jimnast August 16, 2023 9:57 AM BST
I don’t have a clue to the answer but what are the chances of this fella been caught?
Report dustybin August 16, 2023 10:01 AM BST
I believe it’s called ‘honour’.
It’s what happens when enough lies have been told over centuries to simple folk receptive to fanciful nonsense of the almighty, all wrapped up in misogyny.
Report impossible123 August 16, 2023 10:37 AM BST
"A judge recently set one of these chaps free after he beat and injured the daughter with an iron rod outside her school"

If what you said about the chap was true I'd like the chap brought back to the UK (the offence happened in the UK) and be flogged in public if proven guilty in court. I'd even advocate a task force sent to where this chap might be and either forcibly kidnapped him or execute him in his country.

An eye for an eye in my book esp to a young defenceless child. No mitigation - period.
Report Cider August 16, 2023 10:54 AM BST
The iron bar fiend is a different case. He was let off by a uk judge after the daughter he beat with an iron bar pleaded for leniency in court on his behalf. Possibly as she thought if he went to jail, she would be ideologically blamed and end up dead.

People have no idea how far the cps and judiciary has been corrupted.

The other day I saw footage of a thug taking a long run up and sucker punching a policeman straight in the face. He could have ended up dead. This was all caught on cctv. Irrefutable. The judge gave the thug a £135 fine.
Report saddo August 16, 2023 11:00 AM BST
I think the judge was seriously mistaken in giving credence to a mercy plea from a vulnerable victim.
I suspect the real reason he was allowed to walk was his religion, just my opinion.
Report Ramruma August 16, 2023 11:02 AM BST
Some posters are mixing up two completely different cases owing to the ambiguous phrase "one of these chaps".

The iron bar chap hit his daughter who was wearing makeup to hide the last time he'd hit her. This has nothing to do with the dead 10-year-old. This daughter is still alive, and presumably still getting bashed about on a regular basis.

Back to the 10-year-old Sara. Dad might have killed her but is he really likely to be a religious nutter if he married her Polish Catholic mother in the first place? My guess would be she was "unintentionally" killed (even if pain was intended) and then they panicked and fled the country.
Report impossible123 August 16, 2023 11:03 AM BST
Offence happened on British soil thus appl=uy British Law. Country of origin of offender or religion  or faith does not come into it.
Report Cider August 16, 2023 11:04 AM BST
The iron bar fiend is very up on the identity ladder. Two elements, yes that's the leverage that the judge used to be able to get him off, but also there would be widespread outrage in the media if the perp had been a different pigmentation/persuasion.
Report Cider August 16, 2023 11:07 AM BST
Back to the 10-year-old Sara. Dad might have killed her but is he really likely to be a religious nutter if he married her Polish Catholic mother in the first place? My guess would be she was "unintentionally" killed (even if pain was intended) and then they panicked and fled the country.


Nobody knows do they. Can you recall the last time that a child was murdered in the UK, and it didn't even reach broadcast news?
Report Ramruma August 16, 2023 11:08 AM BST
Cider -- the daughter's plea for mercy in the iron bar case was probably genuine. What the kids usually want is dad (or mum) to stop hitting them or fondling them but they don't want the family broken up. They still love the 90 per cent of daddy who takes them to McDonalds, pushes them on the swing and reads them bedtime stories. Unfortunately, social workers do not have magic wands.
Report Cider August 16, 2023 11:12 AM BST
No idea if it was genuine or not. But it should not be relevant. How can you trust the testimony of a child that gets beaten in public with an iron bar by her family? There are millions of families with an absent father these days anyway.
Report Ramruma August 16, 2023 11:19 AM BST
Cider -- "Can you recall the last time that a child was murdered in the UK, and it didn't even reach broadcast news?"

If it is true that three children are killed by their parents each month, then lots do not make the broadcast news. Especially since the media (and public) got excited about child sexual abuse and forgot about old-fashioned baby battering.
https://www.lbc.co.uk/crime/child-abuse-three-killed-every-month-england/

Earlier on the thread I suggested one reason the police might be keeping things from the media: so they do not prejudice the extradition hearing. If Sara's killer is arrested in Pakistan, the next step will be a Pakistan court hearing and perhaps also a political hearing to decide if he can be extradited back to Britain. His defence lawyers will argue that he cannot get a fair trial in England if the media has been running hysterical headlines.

Now, I might be wrong. Maybe they are just worried about "racists" stirring up trouble, which is why the raped girls in Rotherham were ignored, but it is at least plausible and, imo more likely.
Report impossible123 August 16, 2023 11:20 AM BST
Look, no adult must be allowed to iron-bar a kid esp a sibling in public outside their school irrespective of behaviour. British Law must be uphold regardless.

I'm old school.
Report Cider August 16, 2023 11:25 AM BST
36 children were killed in 2020 by mistreatment or neglect.

Sorry, I will try again. Can you recall the last time that [b]a child was murdered in the UK, and it didn't even reach broadcast news?[/i]
Report Cider August 16, 2023 11:30 AM BST
The systematic abuse stuff is an entirely different category. Equally horrendous. But typically those are cases that involve failures with different agencies, general state incompetence. It is notoriously difficult to prove murder in those cases where a baby dies. Esp in lockdown when all the agencies 'worked' from home. And we don't want to go down that particular rabbit hole as it's not related to this murder afaik.

This is apparently a cold blooded murder.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 2:43 PM BST
It tripped across this story looking for something else. It is genuine (from 2022)


A 45-year-old man has been found guilty of murdering a 15-year-old boy and attempting to murder the boy’s mother in Miles Platting in June last year.

Suleman Altaf attended his ex-partner’s home uninvited shortly after 9pm on 9 June 2022. He was carrying a knife and wearing a baseball cap, a surgical mask and latex gloves.

After letting himself into the house, he launched an attack upon her, stabbing her numerous times. When her 15-year-old son, Jakoub Szymancki, came to her aid, he stabbed the boy to the throat.

CCTV showed Altaf in the area of the house for three hours before the attack. He was in the house just two minutes before he was seen running away with blood on his face.

Jakoub Szymancki received a catastrophic injury to the blood vessels in his neck, plus defence wounds to his arms and was pronounced dead at 10.26pm. His mother received 13 stab wounds to her head and body, plus multiple facial fractures, a fractured rib and a collapsed lung.

After fleeing the scene Altaf took a £350 taxi to Slough where he attempted to cross the English Channel in a dinghy.

At 6.45pm on 10 June 2022, he was intercepted by RLNI lifeboat crew. After an hour of negotiations, when he told them he had intended to sail to France before travelling on to Portugal, he eventually agreed to leave the dinghy and was taken back to shore where he was arrested.

In interview he told police officers he had acting in self-defence after being attacked by the boy and his mother.

Today he was found guilty of murder, attempted murder and possession of a knife in a public place.
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 3:00 PM BST
Vomit inducing read Cider what a cesspit we live in at times,a disturbing story….
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 3:01 PM BST
Watch some of these channel 5 programmes and listen to plod asking the undesirable if they want sugar in the coffee…..ffs
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 3:03 PM BST
This mob in the big house on the Thames don’t have a fkn clue…..
Report duffy August 17, 2023 3:10 PM BST
It's a wonder how Judge John Deed ever made it onto BBC screens, wouldn't these days.
Report impossible123 August 17, 2023 3:14 PM BST
Why do asylum seekers or economic migrants from S Asia not choose the Far East and South East Asia countries? Like England these countries speak English, established infrastructure, friendly climate, good standard of living and tasty food, etc. Why not?
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 3:19 PM BST
Because they like the promised land,the land of milk and honey…..
Report jimnast August 17, 2023 3:22 PM BST
Would you like sugar in your coffee LaughLaugh unbelievable
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 3:26 PM BST
You couldn’t make it up jimnast

Another beauty “mind your head on the car roof” ffs
Report jimnast August 17, 2023 3:29 PM BST
LaughLaughLaughstop it form
Report Cider August 17, 2023 3:34 PM BST
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Report Cider August 17, 2023 3:42 PM BST
Opening the case, prosecutor Alexander Leach KC told the court that Ms Bastek and Mr Altaf were in a relationship between 2012 and 2015. She had three sons including Jakub, and they both had a son together, he said.

The relationship broke down in 2015 and Family Court proceedings began in respect of Mr Altaf having contact with their son, which concluded in May this year.

.....

Mr Altaf accepted that he must have struck Ms Bastek and Jakub with a knife but denied any intention to cause harm and said he was acting defensively. He added that he wore the gloves and mask due to his concerns about COVID, jurors heard.

Mr Altaf, of no fixed address, denies murder, attempted murder and possession of a knife.

Jurors have been discharged in the case after Judge Patrick Field KC informed them that Mr Altaf was poorly and would not be well enough to return to court this week. The case was adjourned to January 9 next year for a new trial date to be fixed.
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 3:47 PM BST
At one time they cost a penny…….
Report ProSniper August 17, 2023 3:48 PM BST
A complete waste of money keeping the filth alive who could carry out such a savage act. The best thing to do would be to pin them against the nearest wall and blast a huge bullet into their scumbag skull.
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 3:53 PM BST
Cider - what is the point of posting details of this case from 2022? which may or may not have similarities to the recent case?.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 3:55 PM BST
The issues are multi faceted, that the savagery is happening is one thing. But I don't even recall hearing about this case. It's pretty hard to find significant detail on the mainstream outlets, that pic and detail is from the MEN. Couldn't see any significant reporting of the conviction. The initial quote is from the CPS.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 4:00 PM BST
I am aspergers blackburn, and it has its benefits and negatives in equal measure, however it's something that I definitely wouldn't want to change. Anyway, it seems normal to me, but apparently one of the traits is that I identify patterns. I asked another poster to give me an example of a child being murdered in cold blood that didn't dominate the media. Purely by coincidence, I noticed this one when searching for something unrelated. Quite uncanny, the apparent correlation, do you not think? And the common denominators.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 4:05 PM BST
We did have weeks of a footballer kicking a cat, two wags wasting their husbands' money in court, a bloke touching up other blokes in a private club. And about six years of trump. You can see that those in charge of creating the narrative ensure that we are on top of the important stuff.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 4:10 PM BST
*=#blackbarn
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 4:11 PM BST
Cider - the "old" 2022 case you mention resulted in a conviction earlier THIS month. Loads of stuff to see, if you want, just by googling the convicted surname.
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 4:12 PM BST
Cider - no bother re the name!!  Common on here. Spellchecker doesn't know I have a black barn!!!!
Report impossible123 August 17, 2023 4:17 PM BST
Anyone remember Lord Ali and his two family members? The former was found guilty after a trial of grooming young boys and girls in the 80's. The former was sent down still protesting his innocence; the other two were too ill (emotionally/mentally) to be brought to court. But, all of them are still in the UK no doubt drawing benefits. However, I hope the former Lord will be sent back to his home country upon his release.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 4:21 PM BST
I'm not saying it's absolutely impossible to find info on it. I have posted it on here.

Where you honestly aware of the story before I posted it on here? I was not.

It's something that's tangibly impossible to prove, we can only use benchmarks and comparisons of ostensibly similar incidents.
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 4:31 PM BST
Cider "Where you honestly aware of the story before I posted it on here? I was not".

Neither was I, but then this is not the kind of story I would be looking for. Presumably this is the kind of story you were looking for.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 4:36 PM BST
That's what I'm talking about. I guarantee you knew that they apparently found a risk of legionnaires on the bibby, or it was warm in europe recently. If the perp in this case was white, and the victims were protected identities, you would have heard about it.
Report saddo August 17, 2023 4:38 PM BST
I suspect cider thinks such a horrific attack worthy of the 6.00 news blackbarn, as would I if I watched it.
Report Cider August 17, 2023 4:41 PM BST
Like the riveting tale of an old lady who worked for the royal family, asking an attendee to a royal function, where they were from?
Report basilbrush August 17, 2023 4:52 PM BST
Blackbarn, you really are the lowest of the low, give it a break ffs.
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 5:13 PM BST
Basil - I am aware that you do not like me, but sometimes your posts offend commonsense. This is thus far a perfectly courteous and friendly debate. If you wish to take offence at something I have said, please post me and we can discuss. Thanks
Report jimnast August 17, 2023 5:16 PM BST
Why would anyone dislike you on here blackbarn?
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 5:20 PM BST
Jimnast - I am opinionated, but try to be polite and courteous. I think my posts evidence this. Basil seems to have taken a consistent dislike to me. I know not why, perhaps he will tell me one day.
Report jimnast August 17, 2023 5:23 PM BST
Always found you courteous and an asset to this forum.
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 5:32 PM BST
Well thank you Jimnast. We have shared several historical threads as I recall.
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 5:35 PM BST
blackbarn 17 Aug 23 17:13 
Basil - I am aware that you do not like me, but sometimes your posts offend commonsense. This is thus far a perfectly courteous and friendly debate. If you wish to take offence at something I have said, please post me and we can discuss. Thanks
basilbrush 17 Aug 23 16:52 
Blackbarn, you really are the lowest of the low, give it a break ffs.


Wow!

Take a pull ffs
Report blackbarn August 17, 2023 5:46 PM BST
formoftheace - I think you are confused.
Report Reynard August 17, 2023 6:12 PM BST
After fleeing the scene Altaf took a £350 taxi to Slough where he attempted to cross the English Channel in a dinghy.

He was subsequently arrested and charged with travelling the wrong way on a one-way route Plain
Report saddo August 17, 2023 6:25 PM BST
Laugh
Report jimnast August 17, 2023 7:12 PM BST
We have blackbarn
Report impossible123 August 17, 2023 7:49 PM BST
Only a desperado or very stupid person would try to cross the Channel in a dinghy. Was it night time? If day time he'd be bound to be caught.
Report formoftheace August 17, 2023 7:54 PM BST
Probably asked the toilet if he wanted a warm drink and blanket ffs….upend the thing and say accidents happen….
Report casemoney August 17, 2023 8:33 PM BST
The iron bar fiend is a different case.

Plenty of Iron bar cases

Landing daily on the South Coat
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