Charlie Applebys horses

Someone was saying they misplaced the magic carrots , don't believe that for a moment myself...

Perhaps just one of those  years when fewer good horses come along and a few of the older ones regress.

Mr Mahmood al-Zarooni came back for his carrots.

Probably one of the best Trainers in England is Ralph Beckett imho,i worked for him Years ago and his attention to detail is second to none, as good as Gosden and Dick Hern who i also worked for.

The ones he sent Stateside have all flopped…and miserably too.

They even tried dragging Jamie Spencer all the way to Colonial Downs on Saturday to no avail.

My guess is you’ll see most of these bounce back in Meydan during the winter with their reduced handicap marks.

maybe the dogs and hounds of meydan is part of the problem its like man city/utd.psg,madrid,barca etc warming up for new season / ch lg at hartlepool,rochdale etc bears no resembalance to summer flat racing in europe anymore

Another brutal run

Another shocker, how anyone can currently bet a Appleby horse  at odds on is beyond me

exponista , brings back memories of flockton grey at notts as well wasnt it ?, what was the 3yr old dressed up as 2yr old flockton grey called ?

I absolutely would expect a different result. All those Frankel, Dubawi, Sea The Stars, Night Of Thunder etc donkeys??? Come on he's just not up to it.

I would expect the same result if Aidan and Charlie swapped places...

Its the staff and the horses and the vets that are driving the success in Ballydoyle. Aidan is just the front man to talk to the cameras.

did CA say recently that his 3yo's were a moderate bunch

@ Truehoncho...
He took over from the wife who took over from Joe Crowley... so not really had to prove himself from the ground up.
Unlike Gordon Elliot who i think is out of this world when it comes to training horses, but an odious man in every other respect.


Aidan has proved that he is quite excellent as CEO of a racing stable, and i use the phrase CEO in the sense that he is 4 or 5 layers of management away from the horses. But Ballydoyle and Coolmore were already the dominant force with Magnier, as chairman, there running the show. I have no doubt that if Aidan didn't produce he wouldn't have lasted.

But circling back to Appleby, he almost certainly doesn't have a chairman that demands results, or when the results are delivered no new standards are requested.

Godolphin were a fantastic idea back in early days, Moonshell/Balanchine/Mark of Esteem/Cezanne/Flag Bird but then started to expand and lost their way a bit.
Now they are just another stable with runners in handicaps... not what Godolphin were originally about.

Bin Suroor has trained 1 classic winner since 2009 and still has a job.

I'm not sure what you are getting at regarding Appleby. He has a boss who owns everything and I assume he has to answer to? That's not really the point which is he is just not getting results and I think it won't get any better. As far as SBS is concerned, it's pretty accepted that he was put in the job as an Arab face of Godolphin and the show was run by someone else. Saying that he hasn't done badly with what he's been given which hasn't been very much over the last five years or so. AOB's record speaks for itself and he has had success with horses other than Coolmore, maybe he is just lucky that everywhere he goes all the horses are great and CA is unlucky that the biggest spending owner in the world is buying and breeding dross.

Another woeful day so far. They dont seem fit. Just stop like trains

Why does Buick have to constantly change the reins on a horse? It's very rare to see a horse run straight for him, and it's no wonder.

He ran a group horse in a class 3 to get a winner today. It's desperate stuff.

Stable rotten as a pear.

acey deucy14 Aug 23 13:49
Probably one of the best Trainers in England is Ralph Beckett imho,i worked for him Years ago and his attention to detail is second to none, as good as Gosden and Dick Hern who i also worked for.