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https://www.racingpost.com/news/britain/fancy-staying-at-frankies-dettoris-mansion-on-the-market-and-trophy-collection-offered-in-once-in-a-lifetime-online-auction-aoCi68k6tEfL/
flogging off some old boots and a few gongs at auction- something of a not to Barney's charity [kudos there]
no mention of it on there but some speculate he may join a USA barn over the winter/spring
flogging off some old boots and a few gongs at auction- something of a not to Barney's charity [kudos there]
no mention of it on there but some speculate he may join a USA barn over the winter/spring
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How big is the market for racing memorabilia? Frankie seems to be dumping one heck of a lot of stuff. Having said that, it is mostly trophies which do have a certain decorative value.
The auction site is: https://www.the-saleroom.com/en-gb/auction-catalogues/cheffinsfineart/catalogue-id-srche10284 |
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And why does Frankie, who has dozens of kids and horses, want to live in London anyway? It doesn't sound like he has thought this through.
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London is a shaithall, wouldn't want to live there.
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I reckon he's going travelling to places where he can be anonymous, cuz he's like that. Shy
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London is the finest city in the world but is not natural horseriding country.
This looks like the classic retirement mistake of moving to some supposed idyll and hate it after six months because your routine, your friends, your life is where you lived for the last several decades. |
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Are you sure Rumruma?
London was ranked as one of the worst cities in the world to live as an expat — even before the coronavirus pandemic hit. That is according to the annual Expat Insider 2020 report by InterNations, which surveyed more than 15,000 expatriates representing 173 nationalities and living in 181 countries. For a city to be featured in the Expat City Ranking 2020, a sample size of at least 50 survey participants per city was required. Out of the 66 cities, London ranked 51st. |
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Surprised to see a trophy for winning this years Oaks on Soul Sister already up for auction, only had it a month.
29% charges on top of winning bid, it's worse than the tote take out. |
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Also London ranks 46 according to global liveability index 2023. It's shaite.
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So we are agreed then, Gaze733, that Frankie should not move to London.
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I guess he's renting out his gaff instead of selling it, because in 6 months he'll be back from that total Sh1t0le,
I lived in Hoxton for 28 years until 1991, we all knew each other, i go and see my brother in Islington and my 91 year old father in law. Its a mix of left wing woke Gullibles and Immigrants, crime ridden and getting worse, largely thanks to Mayor **** |
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Understandably perhaps, this auction is more about what he is NOT selling. E.G. Virtually no Group 1 stuff. Despite the excellent provenance, much of this stuff has limited collectors appeal. The Italian stuff is a very narrow market, the silver plate is ordinary, most of the cut glass is also ordinary. Silver and Gold scrap prices will underpin some of those items. Bit underwhelming really!
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It's mostly tat.
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Probably going to London so he does not need to listen to Whinging people North of Watford.
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Having looked at the catalogue in detail, I think this might be a "test the market" auction". Possibly to be followed by several others with better stuff. Hard to be precise about the numbers as the catalogue descriptions are a bit haphazard. BUT, he is selling just FOUR British Group 1 trophies representing about 3% of his total British Group 1 wins. Similar story elsewhere, except Ireland where items on offer represent 17% of his Group 1's and Italy where he is offloading more than half.
Lots of bids in already but beware of trophies, if it does not say silver, it is NOT. If it says silver it should have a stated weight BUT unlike many auctioneers they do not use the term "weighable silver" so the quoted weight includes other stuff such as the stand, mount etc. A good example is Swains Irish Champion Stakes Trophy which is quoted at a whopping 49oz, but is merely a silver plaque mounted on a stone block. If all silver this would be about £700 scrap. |
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Great post Blackbarn
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A new twist on a Frankie meltdown.
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Highest bid item so far...........Not described as gold but perhaps it is? One handle falling off does not seem to inhibit interest.
LOT 4 A 37TH RACE MEETING HH SHEIKH TAMIM BIN HAMAD AL THANI TROPHY, AWARDED TO FRANKIE DETTORI, In The Frankie Dettori Sale - Timed Online Current bid 3,200 GBP 36 bids Additional fees apply 29.40% Inc.VAT/sales tax (19 watching) Timed Auction:Bidding ends:18 Jul 2023 17:03 BST Auctioneer:Cheffins A 37th Race Meeting HH Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani trophy, awarded to Frankie Dettori,with decorative horse head twin handles and relief and hammer decoration, internally and externally decorated with Arabic script, opposing plaques one with Arabic script and the other engraved '37th Race Meeting / HH Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad Al Thani - EMir of State of Qatar / Trophy - Thoroughbred Horses / Class :3 Years Old - Distance 2400m / 27 February 2014 / Jockey Cup' 84.74oz 29cm high Provenance: Frankie Dettori Loss to one handle - provided |
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Descriptions deliberately vague. If it's gold it would be worth at least £50,000?
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