Wins like a 487/1 shot should

Murray MINTS

sparrow will not be happy.

Easy game this,for the bookies.

according to jockey they were confidant at home.

best horse won the races.  sore one of you laid it.

Yeah sure.

Nice SF with the second at SP 66/1 too!

150-1 shot beat 66-1 shot

Anyone had the FC

Didn't just win, looked different gear completely.

UK racing - farce - if you can win at this, you are a special person :D

Couldn't find it but here's some pointers

- Just beaten by His Majesty on debut, which ran a cracker alone on the stands side today.
- Ran solo on the wrong side of the track last time out and still ran very well to a horse who ran great earlier this week

And the normal rubbish after the race, after every race in fact, no matter how big the price, the jockey says connections were confident. Total nonsense. Roll on Cheltenham...

according to jockey they were confidant at home.

talking through his fkng backside then. 

if they were remotely confident its not going off at a million to one.

3,478-1 SF

Sure all the p1ssed up punters there had that one...

thanks poppydog - you could make pointers for most of them TBF. such little form substance in the 2yo races

Fahey failed the hattrick

i was being sarcastic.

Jun 22, 2023 -- 2:37PM, Poppydog. wrote:

Couldn't find it but here's some pointers - Just beaten by His Majesty on debut, which ran a cracker alone on the stands side today.  - Ran solo on the wrong side of the track last time out and still ran very well to a horse who ran great earlier this week

Behind His Majesty both times

Actually, thinking about it you'd have to be p1ssed to pick it

Jun 22, 2023 -- 2:39PM, stu wrote:

Actually, thinking about it you'd have to be p1ssed to pick it

doesnt work either

I'm off to the pub

14:30 Royal Ascot
Valiant Force - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:311333697746 | Placed: 21-Jun-23 23:06:45    Back    185.40    0.50    --    --
92.20
Won

Royal Ascot lottery meeting just makes me pine for Cheltenham & Aintree...

lol, darn there was me thinking it was a holy grail

Try watching his first 2 races.

Had His Majesty well beaten first time up until getting tired close home (soft ground).

Blitzed them for speed 2nd time (including His Majesty) for 4 furlongs when running a solo.

Should never have been that price on faster ground.

No I didn't back it.

Farcical result, will never win another race. Possible golden highway.

Think of all the SP punters what they have lost,3 times more back on here.

Yeah,
- lost to His Majesty who won his race on the wrong side today
- lost to Givemethebeatboys who won his race on the wrong side in the Coventry. (hit 2/1 IR when blitzing it on the wrong side of the course)

That last run was over 6f and was still in the lead at the one pole in a G3 so a case could be made dropped back to 5f (but not by me before the race though :( )

Trained by A P O'Brien he goes off at 14/1 or so.

I'm off to the pub

14:30 Royal Ascot
Valiant Force - Win
Betfair Bet ID 1:311333697746 | Placed: 21-Jun-23 23:06:45    Back    185.40    0.50    --    --
92.20
Won

bog

Noche Magica who finished 5 lengths in front of Valiant Force last time, finished stone last today.

Does anyone admit to backing it I wonder, though would be an aftertime sadly now...

oh, sorry missed wroughtiron's post

WP iron

Agree with ged, debuted in a listed race and the 'moral' winner vs couple of AOB hotpots. There are plenty of 500 shots that 'can't' win. The owner's retained jockey picking their other runner will always influence the market.

proppa muglayers

in hindsight shudnt have been near a 450/1..form figures of 25 were overlooked.

Jun 22, 2023 -- 2:59PM, Gaze733 wrote:

proppa muglayers

you tell them graze.

system number 200005678 would have told you that winner

Jun 22, 2023 -- 2:50PM, kevo wrote:

Noche Magica who finished 5 lengths in front of Valiant Force last time, finished stone last today.

sshhh. It was the obvious winner if you read this thread.

Looked an easy Winner to me

Would of needed many picks to find it

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Why?  Did you think I laid the horse?

What was it on Purple?

Hardly obvious, nobody claiming it was.

Some massive outsiders that win, one would struggle to find after the race, like that 1000 shot in Ireland earlier this week.

This one was one that could have been backed with some reasonable hope of a good run.

Was the sort I often stick a 'free bet' offer on, if I'm ever lucky enough to get one from somewhere...but not this time of course!

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Mad one here but Valient Force ran really well In what has turned out to be a very hot maiden. He then raced all on his own over 6 furlongs in another very hot race. This step back to 5 furlongs should suit,and he is on what should be the pace side.

2pts ew 150/1 generally
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Also on that threat someone had Valient Force x Desert Hero £15 Double for £20,000

Bravely admitted he cashed out for £800 before Desert Hero

* Also on that thread.....

Apologies, it was a £15 E/W Double

Some great tipping and reasoning given for the valient force selection.

But have guys so shrewd never heard of betfair and the exchange??

Tipping a 150's shot that could have been well over 450's instead...

Valiant Force might have got more backers at 25/1 than 150/1 simply because more people would read the form at the lower price. There was a case to be made for him but most people, including myself, barely look at the complete rags. Heck, some people don't look at double figures, though that is more an old-fashioned mindset I think.

stu 23 Jun 23 09:38 
Some great tipping and reasoning given for the valient force selection.

But have guys so shrewd never heard of betfair and the exchange??

Tipping a 150's shot that could have been well over 450's instead...




A good number of those people would just be looking from an old traditional each way bet angle and not even considering a win and place bet of say 20% win and 80% place.

I tip generally with bookies prices, as I’m looking at the place price for a selection like this. And it’s generally  the way tips are done

I pretty obviously had a bet myself at 370 win on betfair . Missed the near 500 though.

My main thought was this was no way 30/1 to  place in the 4 given the similar form of 2 others in the market at about 10 to win, at the time

I tip generally with bookies prices, as I’m looking at the place price for a selection like this. And it’s generally  the way tips are done

I pretty obviously had a bet myself at 370 win on betfair . Missed the near 500 though.

My main thought was this was no way 30/1 to  place in the 4 given the similar form of 2 others in the market at about 10 to win, at the time

Fair enough - what were the places prices like on here in comparison? Must have been fairly big.