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HappyHibby
11 Jun 23 15:11
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anyone have any idea what it is ?

money that could be going back in to racing goes to folk who are not needed and bring absolutely nothing to the table anyway...

The Horse Watcher boys are on virtually every day raking the cash in for saying bland/basic things that are all in the public domain yesterday...

and i'd love to know how much they give Paul Mulrennan for being their ambassador at the same time.

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By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 15:14
folk like Gordon Brown slobbering over people like Gordon Elliot at every opportunity...

Donn Mclean must be the most boring person ever created on God's earth and he picks up money for saying everyone is great / every winning ride is wonderful and at the same time has never spotted a non trier in his life (or one he would say so on air at least)...

i could go on but the head honchos at RTV really should be asking themselves why they need all these presenters / pundits and do they really earn the money they get.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 11 Jun 23 15:35
If Jonathan Needham , Eddie Freemantle etc worked for £10 an hour freeing up £x , how would that £x go back into racing?
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 15:45
RTV says all it's profits go back in to racing...

racing losing out on millions imv just so folk like The Horsewatchers can have a cosy lifestyle...

talking of which...

Chris Dixon on at Beverley again today...

can't remember the last time one of the Dixon numpties wasn't on RTV tbh.
By:
UnluckyForSome
When: 11 Jun 23 15:45
Is there anything you don't moan about you miserable old goat?
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 15:47
17 runner race...

Amy Ryan and Chris Dixon give a couple of sentences on a few horses pre-race that anyone could have come up with and if anyone bases their bets on what they say then god fkn help them imv.

a total waste of money having these folk on imv.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 15:48
just trying to do what's best for racing UFS.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 11 Jun 23 15:51
But how do the profits go back into racing? Let's suppose RTV makes a profit of £1m -who gets the £1m
By:
differentdrum
When: 11 Jun 23 15:52
The only surprise about this thread is the delay in Mitolo turning up to rubbish Sky Sports Racing.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 16:01
i ain't got a clue ManoLeeds...

i'm just telling you that is what RTV tells it's audience...

i'd rather money went in to horse racing in general than helping to fund The Horsewatchers project and give folk like Paul Mulrennan a nice little earner.
By:
mitolo
When: 11 Jun 23 17:04
sorry about that-just nipped out to the offie

rtv is well worth it despite the recent influx of twerps like this jones geezer. the dixons are worth having on and are punters-the baldy one is always worth a listen and i will re-visit my opinion after hearing his neesom is the best of all. pundits arent a problem its the presenters like harding and lightweight. although i dont see the need for 3 of em at beverley

compare them to the dismal creatures on the garbage channel. luck hislop gob or ryle mapletoft boyce?

will this do?
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 17:11
if you are basing your selection on what the Dixon Brothers say then i feel very very sorry for you mitolo...

that pair must make a fortune from RTV...

barely a day goes by without one of them being on...

why anyone would listen to them is beyond me.
By:
Cider
When: 11 Jun 23 17:34
But how do the profits go back into racing? Let's suppose RTV makes a profit of £1m -who gets the £1m


Had a quick look, it's owned by a parent company, RMG. The racecourses themselves are the shareholders of RMG. So 'profits back into racing' means paid back out to the racecourse 'owners'.

Racecourse Media Group (RMG) will pay racecourses £117.6 million in payments generated from their media and data rights in 2022 – compared to £110m in 2021.

The payments are derived from a range of RMG businesses, including via betting shops (Racecourse Retail Business), online bookmaker streams (Digital Streaming), pay TV channel (Racing TV), international betting (Racing TV International) and non-betting distribution, mainstream TV (ITV agreement) and data (Racecourse Data Company).


There is no broken down financial information for RTV in the public domain that I could find. But I only did a 2 minute search.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 17:40
cheers Cider...

still cannot understand why they would want to make Paul Mulrennan an ambassador year on year...

very strange imv.
By:
mitolo
When: 11 Jun 23 17:43
thanks for the sympathy. i didnt say that and fwiw both of them are winning punters and have been for a long time
By:
Cider
When: 11 Jun 23 17:50
RMG:

This is a revolutionary approach to sports media rights management and allows the racecourses to own, manage and exploit their intellectual property across all platforms. All profits are returned to the courses.

Senior Production Coordinator:


Overview of position:


Day to day management of production staff; production and update of staff rosters, managing annual leave requests and sickness cover (includes out of hours) via absence management system.

Day to day management of freelance staff; arranging bookings and training / shadow dates, negotiate fees, assist process of employment / freelancer contracts.

Day to day management of production related schedules; TX schedules, EPG schedules, edit suites.


.https://www.racingtv.com/Productioncontroller
By:
Cider
When: 11 Jun 23 17:55
I think it might be:

Kirstie Mitchell-Brown
Senior Production Coordinator, Floor Manager and Gallery PA
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 17:57
both of them are winning punters and have been for a long time

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aye sure they are.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 18:01
This is a revolutionary approach to sports media rights management and allows the racecourses to own, manage and exploit their intellectual property across all platforms.

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but when some dongbell turns up and flies his drone over the vicinity of the racecourse and sells the pictures to his clients we just let them carry on and do nowt about it...

well done indeed.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 18:07
both of them are winning punters and have been for a long time

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Chris Dixon is such a good punter he also has time to be a jockeys agent / be on RTV virtually 7 days a week and also do whatever he does for David O'Meara...

of course he is.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 11 Jun 23 18:42
Thanks Cider
So if a racecourse got an extra £500 000 due to RTV presenters being paid less would it
1. Go the shareholders of that racecourse
2. Be used to improve the stable block /car parking/private boxes
3. Be used for bonuses for the clerk of the course/senior executives
4. Improve prizemoney
By:
HappyHibby
When: 11 Jun 23 18:54
obviously it goes in to the big pot for the racecourse and they divi it up how they want to divi it up...

much rather that than giving it to presenters / pundits to tell us the first 3 favourites have a decent chance of winning a race and a colt bred by Galileo out of Minding is a well bred type.
By:
ribero1
When: 11 Jun 23 20:26
I was at Beverley today,Stanley was there too.
By:
barstool
When: 11 Jun 23 22:50
Used to be £500/day, probably around £650 now with exs on top.

As for the pundits, of course they know a lot more of what is going on. You will not here it broadcast of course.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 12 Jun 23 07:24
£650 plus expenses...

deary me...

some work if you can get it...

£650 for mainly talking a load of pi$h / saying every jockey/trainer/owner is a wonderful human being / never seeing any wrongdoing despite it happening on a daily basis / and reading out basic stuff that anyone who has any sort of clue about racing could come up with / and throw in a few stats like 'Gordon Elliot has had 8 winners in the last 2 days' always makes it sound like you are a top professional...

the money going out of racing from RTV for this garbage is unbelievable...

racecourses constantly claiming they ain't got no money...

cut out all these presenters / pundits and you might well have a few more extra £'s to play with...

coz if any RTV subscriber subscribes to listen to presenters/pundits i'd be absolutely shocked...

and that's before we even get to Paul Mulrennan and his ambassadorial role...

some ambassador.
By:
HappyHibby
When: 12 Jun 23 07:25
so it's fair to assume that the presenters/pundits at Beverley yesterday cost £2k...

laughable really.
By:
the.mad.dog.man
When: 12 Jun 23 09:23
most of them failed punters
By:
howard
When: 12 Jun 23 09:58
An extremely stupid and bitter thread. You obviously have a problem with successful people.
By:
isleham
When: 12 Jun 23 15:19
not successful people mainly just who mummy and daddy are
By:
mitolo
When: 12 Jun 23 15:24
^another small-minded idiot joins the resentful whinger-fest
By:
differentdrum
When: 12 Jun 23 15:42
^ From someone who continually rubbishes Sky Sports presenters.

The vast majority of things they come out with you should be able to find out yourself. The only thing they can really add are paddock inspection and again the vast majority seemingly make that up as they go along. I have never heard anyone suggest that a horse has been turned out badly, and if that were true then it would render observation pointless.
By:
Manoleeds
When: 12 Jun 23 15:57
If you switch to RTV Extra at 15.30 when a race is due off at 15.50, it's pretty boring without the pundits talking away. Of course some are better than others but I enjoy listening to Jonathan Neesom, Lydia Hislop, Eddie Freemantle and Stuart Machin.£650 a day seems reasonable when you consider that they don't work everyday, are self employed so don't get holiday or sick pay and have to make their own pension provisions.
By:
hong kong fooey
When: 12 Jun 23 16:05
£650 a day.Crazy I retired in 2019 .I never earned more than £1250 a month all my working life.Laugh
By:
mitolo
When: 12 Jun 23 16:06
and another one. i rubbish sky presenters because they are indeed rubbish

and i was on about pundits, not presenters. rtv has neesom mellish fremantle the dixons, all worth having on course. fremantle and mellsih have been pro-punters for decades. dunno about neesom, but hes steered punters in the right direction many times

well worth 20 quid a month
By:
Manoleeds
When: 12 Jun 23 17:18

Jun 12, 2023 -- 4:05PM, hong kong fooey wrote:


£650 a day. I retired in 2019 .I never earned more than £1250 a month all my working life.


That will be true for most of us but people like Eddie are at the top of the tree . Pick any industry and the few at the top get paid way above the average.

By:
hong kong fooey
When: 12 Jun 23 17:34
I agree some of these pundits are very good. But how do they keep their accounts open? In my heaviest
betting years between 2000 and 2018  i had a lot of accounts restricted, so as not to make it worth while. Do you have to work for tv to keep an account open.
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Jun 23 17:40
£2.600 per month for Nevison…..?
By:
formoftheace
When: 12 Jun 23 17:40
£2.600 per month for Nevison…..?
By:
Hayden
When: 12 Jun 23 17:46
Agree with mitolo in the main , really like the RUK coverage in its entirety and as for pundits / tipsters or whatever you like to call them it's immaterial to me as it's in one ear and out the other , it's the coverage i like including the races themselves , all the chat between races and the likes of Luck on Sunday.

As for Sky racing it isn't not in the same league as RUK but far better than we've had in the past , remember the bad old days of racing once a week if you were lucky and having to get results from teletext.

As for what these guys & gals get paid i've no interest tbh but all i know is that for coverage we've never had it so good.


Good luck all  Happy
By:
The Spinmaster
When: 12 Jun 23 17:55
Some pundits add value but for ones like Graham Cunningham, who tried to make a go of it in the real world with his tipping service that was a disaster, the next best thing is to get a gig on RTV talking all day about what could and couldn't happen in each race.
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