stall malfunchun

Disgusting

Welldone Rico. Always helping the punters

should be a void race

Horse racing run by complete fools

A scandalous photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxtGWy8WYAA2ea1?format=jpg&name=900x900

A scandalous photo

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxtGWy8WYAA2ea1?format=jpg&name=900x900

Was 3.20 void?

It should be looking at several stalls not open and others open in a sprint race.

I froze on replay, was even worse than that pic at one point some stalls still totally shut others open

Has to be voided?

Jun 3, 2023 -- 4:01PM, Poppydog. wrote:

A scandalous photo https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxtGWy8WYAA2ea1?format=jpg&name=900x900

Thank You. What the F**k is going on with this sport?

Horse racing run by complete fools

Jun 3, 2023 -- 4:06PM, Rico-Dangleflaps wrote:

Horse racing run by complete fools

So, is there any news on this, or will they just let it stand - wants reporting if so.

And bookmakers have paid out which further adds to the issue because they went 'weighed in'.

stu 03 Jun 23 16:10 
So, is there any news on this, or will they just let it stand

2 hrs ago stu..weighed and payed hout.

Horse racing run by complete fools

No retrospective voiding permitted for this kind of thing? There is in US.

race has to be Void Shirley ?

Crazy carry on

It seems they are leaving the result as it is. Crazy!!

It seems they are leaving the result as it is. Crazy!

Did the Jockeys in slow stalls not say anything After race ?

result stands, weighed in.

How would a jockey have noticed? The delayed openings were a fraction of a second.

yood think 3 wood av know tissed the rest were out b4 em..

Spec on a Front runner Woould be ready to Blast

Ancient times fell out

Slow stalls filled 3 of the last 6 places

Needs picture putting in press.

fraudulent to let that result stand.

Voiding would be a disaster for pretty much everyone. The connections of the horses affected should perhaps have their expenses covered. (I backed one of those affected)

Lihou hit his head twice, when seeing the one next door escape out..

Pmsfl Don't give a foook do they

good explanation Stewward.

Fooking useless  , Weighed in called , so they could do fook all is the answer

If it were a 10 Runner races , Given would have been More obvious , RACE VOID IMO

stewards now called

**** me listen to this bolloxs from the steward

my theory - they have pushed and pushed for this "World Pool" nonsense and tried to promote the bigger days overseas, they don't want to upset all these customers they've brought in following British racing in the World Pool by voiding on one of the big days

if that happened at Catterick on a wet Wednesday it would have been voided within 5 mins

Agree with Flemenstar, seems Lihou and Live in the moment were most affected with the R/P comments for Lihou ..

Stall opened fractionally late, dwelt start, always behind, never on terms (jockey said gelding banged his head leaving the stalls; vet said post-race examination failed to reveal any abnormalities)

The Stewards reviewed the start, prior to clearing the race, and interviewed the Starter who explained that the stalls were tested prior to the race, as per normal procedure, and found them to be functioning correctly. They therefore noted that ALLIGATOR ALLEY, drawn 14, anticipated the start, accelerated and broke open the gates shortly before the start was effected resulting in the rider, Jason Watson, becoming unbalanced. The Stewards were satisfied that ALLIGATOR ALLEY had gained no advantage as a result of this incident. ANGLE LAND, drawn 17, anticipated the start and accelerated the gates at the same moment as the race had been effected, enabling the filly to break quickly. The Stewards further noted that stalls 16, 18, 19 and 20 had opened fractionally slower than the balance of the field and having reviewed recordings of the start in normal speed, were of the view that none of those runners’ chances were materially impacted, and they therefore took no further action.

should be voided but they  have put themselves in a corner and because of that are in a difficult posi cos of this world pool stuff , were the higher drwn runners at a disadvantage......yes ..........did the lower drawn runners gain an advantage ........yes

good punditry on ruk saying all the early pace was low

RP hardly mention it

Should be a void race 100%

Why is the BHA run by South Africans and Australians

They finally mentioned it at 11.45 this morning

Epsom Dash branded a 'farce' after four stalls open late and stewards take no action
Four of the highest drawn stalls in the Epsom Dash failed to open correctly
Four of the five highest drawn stalls in the Epsom Dash failed to open on time
Credit: Racing TV
Trainer David Evans has criticised the stewards at Epsom for failing to void Saturday's Dash, calling the circumstances which saw four of the stalls open later than the other 16 as a "farce".

While acknowledging stalls 16, 18, 19 and 20 had opened "fractionally slower" than the remainder, stewards on the day decided the chances of the four runners in those stalls were not "materially impacted" by the start and therefore took no further action.

However, Evans, who trained 11-1 chance Lihou from stall 18 to finish last in the race, was adamant the start had cost his horse his chance and was left in disbelief by the judgement of the stewards.

"It just doesn't seem right that they've allowed the race to stand," said Evans. "Those four horses didn't have a chance. They're all fancied runners and they've just let it stand." 

Abergavenny based trainer David Evans by his 3 and a half furlong sand gallop at his stables Ty-Derlwyn Farm13.9.10 Pic:Edward Whitaker
David Evans: critical of stewards' judgement
Credit: Edward Whitaker
The stewards noted that Alligator Alley, drawn in stall 14, had anticipated the start, accelerated and broke open the gates shortly before the start was effected by the starter but again decided that horse had gained no advantage as a result of the incident.

As well as Lihou, 6-1 favourite Live In The Moment (stall 20), 15-2 chance Vintage Clarets (19) and 8-1 Ancient Times (16) were the other horses impacted, with Vintage Clarets in 14th faring best.

Evans added: "I can't believe they can say it hasn't materially impacted the result. But, even if they think that, they should reimburse all the expenses for those four horses, but who knows who would do that.

"My horse goes in late anyway. Hollie Doyle said he banged his head trying to anticipate the start. Then he's seen all the others go, has gone himself and banged his head again. That was it then, he had no chance."

Asked if he was planning to take any further action, Evans added: "Who would you make a complaint to and who would listen? No-one understands but it's just not on. A big day like that and four horses miss the break on the fastest track in the world. It just seems like a farce and should have been dealt with in the proper way."

The impacted stalls
Vintage Clarets, 15-2, stall 19, finishing position 14th
Ancient Times, 8-1, stall 16, 15th
Live In The Moment, 6-1f, stall 20, 17th
Lihou, 11-1, stall 18, 20th (last)

The stewards' report in full
The stewards reviewed the start, prior to clearing the race, and interviewed the starter who explained that the stalls were tested prior to the race, as per normal procedure, and found them to be functioning correctly. They therefore noted that Alligator Alley, drawn 14, anticipated the start, accelerated and broke open the gates shortly before the start was effected resulting in the rider, Jason Watson, becoming unbalanced. The stewards were satisfied Alligator Alley had gained no advantage as a result of this incident.

Angle Land, drawn 17, anticipated the start and accelerated the gates at the same moment as the race had been effected, enabling the filly to break quickly. The stewards further noted that stalls 16, 18, 19 and 20 had opened fractionally slower than the balance of the field and having reviewed recordings of the start in normal speed, were of the view that none of those runners’ chances were materially impacted, and they therefore took no further action.

The stewards..."were of the view that none of those runners' chances were materially impacted, and therefore took no further action."

What a load of baloney? Materially impacted? Would that not be opened to interpretation, etc? But, those horses were negatively impacted - that's a FACT. Were others negatively impacted? Absolutely not!

The only just solution would be money-back on the affected horses. Stewards...an even playing field. Have you heard of that? If so, what does it mean?

Money talks. Simple as.

Lets face it Horse Racing is run by another bunch of Politicians,No interest in the sport itself just generating more money.Who else can come up with the idea of Sunday Floodlit Racing and this Premiership stuff.The smaller courses are going to lose out big time as when the evenings close in earlier who wants to go to the races in the morning.They are already trying to brush under the carpet jockey suspensions,are they published regularly? We all know that you cannot produce more betting turnover by spreading meetings out as they is only so much money that punters have.As for this not affecting the result in a sprint race,get 3t raps in greyhound racing to open nearly a second late and see what happens,it affects the result every time.

the world pool was the reason not voided, it will be the thing we will all be betting on in a few years time, it will be massive

Maybe the grey market can popularise the lower division tracks by putting on non-bookie sponsored races eg in-bed with non-bookie organisation eg supermarkets, utilities, etc to stage old-fashioned races eg Schweppes, Benson & Hedges, Kennedy Construction, etc.

This premiernisation of races little doubt involved bookie sponsored races like those recently Sunday omnes are pants for horseracing and enthusiasts.

If we are all betting into the world pool does that mean no bookmakers on course and like other countries more money put back into horse racing,which means admission charges come down by 75% and better facilities,which is what other countries do,I wouldnt hold your breath this is British racing we are talking about.

Now in RP with pic:

https://www.racingpost.com/news/festivals/derby-festival/david-evans-laments-epsom-dash-farce-as-four-of-highest-five-stalls-open-slower-than-remainder-a7zpI0Z1Oi3t/

Sorry for double post, but pic clear as day isn't it.

tantpis 04 Jun 23 13:18 

Lets face it Horse Racing is run by another bunch of Politicians,

They are already trying to brush under the carpet Jockey Suspensions, are they published regularly?
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I would be grateful if somebody could tell me WHERE these 'Jockey SUSPENSIONS' are Published (and Updated regularly) other than a pot luck News Article.

One fairly Senior Flat Jockey has not ridden since last Monday - and has NO Booked Ride until this Wednesday.

Another Jump Jockey has been AWOL for over 10 days.

IS the Flat Jockey Suspended? -  or Injured? - Taking a week off for Injury rehab? .... Gone on Half-Term Holiday with the wife and child?

I do not know - and cannot find out - Anywhere...

Nothing on the BHA website - No Listing on Racing Post.

no or very few pre race betting shows on a £25 uk subscription channel on a world pool day
all to accommodate punters who according to lucky  dont like the name kevin in their jocks or trainers so lucky reckons your getting value on kevin ryan/kevin stott runners